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160 January 28th, 2012 ABC greenlights two new primetime soap opera pilots … Americana and Nashville!

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While ABC Daytime is all but destroyed from its former self, with the influx of The Chew, and The Revolution, and the status of General Hospital now consistently on the chopping block, the primetime division of ABC apparently sees a resurgence in bringing back soapy drama to the nighttime! Quite the paradox!

According to Deadline.com, ABC has greenlighted two new series pilots that will be at its core … a soap opera. First, Americana, a soap set around a legendary fashion designer and his family and business. Can you say, The Bold and the Beautiful, people with a twist? It was written by Michael Seitzman (North Country) who will executive produce with Mark Gordon and Mark Gordon Co.’s Nicholas Pepper.

The second is called Nashville from Oscar-winning writer Callie Khouri (Thelma & Louise) and TV producer/documentary filmmaker RJ Cutler which is said to be a family soap set against the backdrop of the Nashville music scene that follows one star at her peak and one on the rise. The two will executive produce with Nashville-based Gaylord Entertainment, which is being represented by SVP of Media and Entertainment Steve Buchanan. This marks Khouri’s return to ABC where she wrote, directed and executive produced the 2006 pilot Hollis & Rae.

The ABC network is expected to greenlight more drama pilots on Monday. So what do you think about ABC primetime trying to bring more soaps to its lineup, while ABC Daytime keeps aborting them? Do you like the themes in Americana and Nashville? Who would you cast in the lead roles? Let us know!

Tags: abc, Americana, Callie Khouri, Mark Gordon, Michael Seitzman, nashville, Nicholas Pepper, Primetime soaps, RJ Cutler

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Mary says:

January 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm

if these dopes were going to put SOAPS on Prime time, why wouldn’t they just MOVE the ones already on???? AMC and OLTL would have had a viewer base and I bet everyone wouldn’t HATE ABC/DISNEY!!!!

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Barb replied January 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I agree Mary! Makes no sense!! GIVE US BACK OLTL! Can ABCD do anything right!

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jan mcgrann replied January 29th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Bring back OLTL we love these characters and their history.Why ruin our great daytime shows for new primetime.It makes no sense and I won’t watch it without The Lords,CRAMMERS, and most of all Todd Manning and his family?I wait 8 years for Roger Howarth’s return and you cancel it 6 months later.I will no longer watch ABCif u cancel GH.and we aren’t stupid.You trick us into watching a show and cancel it.All ABC execs should be fired.We want Todd and Blair!!!

Fran replied January 29th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
I would love to have our soaps back and call it the Mannings, Lords, or the Buchanans. I have not watched anything on ABC/D except GH. The Chew, Revolution, and your other shows suck

angela replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I agree with you so much. These people are NUTS

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Jennifer replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
^I agree with Mary!^ These new soaps do not sound interesting at all…sorry…will not watch! Bring back ONE LIFE TO LIVE!

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Tanya Smith replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
for real what kind of idiots are running ABC/D move the canceled daytime soaps to night and maybe you can get your viewers back!!!

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krogers replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
There is absolutely no sense putting primetime soaps on while they are destroying daytime soaps. ABC. If the soap opera genre is dead why would they be doing this? I will not be watching these show or any other show on ABC except for GH

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lipstickcat replied January 31st, 2012 at 10:10 am
I agree! They said nobody watched soaps anymore! They are putting this crap on to compete with Dallas! Bring our daytime soaps back! Nobody’s watching the garbage you have on now! Admit you’re all morons at ABC!

Michelle replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Totally agree. Haven’t watched ABC since April 2010, and am boycotting all things Disney.

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Michelle replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
No, April 2011 !

gloria replied January 28th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
It just gets stupider & stupider (I hope that’s a word) Idiots. Bring back our daytime dramas!

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jadid replied January 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Exactly!

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Skyzalex replied January 28th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Now I am more mad at ABC/Disney! First they cancel our soaps, because they said we didn’t want them, or its too much money, now they add two new ones to the line up????? Just give the rights to OLTL and AMC to Agnes and stop insulting your loyal viewers. That is very insulting and just a bad move!!! I will only watch GH and when that is gone, so am I. I will not support any sponsor or affiliates!!!!!

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DIANE replied July 10th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I think we have been lied to again, didn’t I hear the reason they pulled both shows AMC and OLTL is the shows were to costly to make, plus they weren’t entertaining enough and on and on? then what is all this? we need Todd and Star back home with Blair, and ,I watched GH with Todd he’s out of character, he needs to go back to lanview, along the way pick up the cast of AMC, and dump those other two soaps and and all the replacements shows and make the fans happy, what is so hard about that??

Carol Winogrocki replied January 29th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I thought I was told that the soaps were too costly to produce and that is why our soaps were cancelled, and the soap genre was dead? What is this all about now? ABC is going back on what they said. In the end it will just mean more people and actors out of work again. Think straight for a change. Leave well enough alone and return our soaps please.

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Brittaney Peacock replied January 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
I think if ABC wants to bring on more SOAPS why not just bring back OLTL and AMC and make them primetime SOAPS as well? ABC is so damn stupid and are just putting stupid shows on air that no one wants to watch and it is a waste of time, money and everything. I won’t watch them at all. The plot of the pilot soaps sucks, I don’t find it anything interesting at all. ABC just needs to make up their damn minds on if they want to continue with SOAPS or not period. They pull money out of their butts and invest it into crappy shows like the Chew and the Revolution, I mean who the heck watchs that crap, I know I don’t and none of my family does. Bring Back OLTL and AMC not the new pilot crap..

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I agree… Why coudn’t the put OLTL on primetime on ABC… Something is FISHY goin on there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Abc is trying to redeem themselves for cancellinfg OLTL & AMC… Sorry ABC no cigar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not going to work!!!! OLTL soap fans can see right threw you ABC!!!!!!!!!!!! You think these 2 new primtime soaps are going to get the attention of OLTL soap fans…. Pretty lame!!!!!!!!!! Only way we would even consider watching any kind of soap on primetime or daytime is if only OLTL was back on the T. V.. You are sinky ABC… you can’t fool loyal soap fans of OLTL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why don’t they simply give OLTL fans what we want??? They would have to admit they were WRONG about cancelling OLTL!!!! ABC makes POOR & bad deceisions!!!!!!!!! Mostly BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are a bunch of STINKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give the viewers what they want OLTL!!! OLTL FAN FOREVER.. Got my OLTL cast picture yesterday it’s such a BEAUTIFUL PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!! Every fan of OLTL should purchase one..That’s all for now..

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Elleko replied February 4th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
PLEASE!!! …. Admit your mistakes and put OLTL and AMC back on the air! I would be most of these actors would be willing to come back! Just admit you were wrong and correct the situation~~

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LLafaux replied June 20th, 2012 at 5:11 am
If ABC Daytime fails, so does ABC Primetime! ABC Daytime, particularly soaps, promoted the Primetime shows.

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todd says:

January 28, 2012 at 12:29 pm

I won’t watch anything on ABC ever again. I don’t care who they put in the lead. You could cast Ryan Gosling, Angelina Jolie, and George Clooney and I wouldn’t tune in. Move it to NBC or cable and maybe.

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cathy trinque says:

January 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm

I will only watch ABC if they bring back AMC or OLTL. Other than that I am done with ABC.

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jan mcgrann replied January 29th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Do you not realize how many fans you have?Especially TODD?ABC you are so out of touch with your viewers.I waited years to retire and was so happy I would be watching.OLTL.Silly me:(

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Diane Visage says:

January 28, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Uh,, duh,, what the hell,,, they take off the good shows, and try to bring in new ones,,, really , do you think we are that stupid,, oh yeah the dog thing almost forgot,,,,, Hell no, dont like the idea,,, i think they are doin it just to shut us,,, the soap fans up,,, not happenin,,,, those storylines do not interest me in the least little bit,,, really,,, wow,,,, we need our soaps back on DAYTIME.. and frankly right now,,, i dont think i want ABC to bring them back,,,, I think nbc or cbs would do a much better job with the treasures that abc is hording,,,,,

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jennifer taylor replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
SO AGREE

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Sue replied January 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Agree!

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Bravo, well said!!!!!!!!!!

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Mary H replied January 29th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I agree with Diane. ABC needs to release the rights to the shows so Anges Nixon can carry on and move on to big and better things with a different network

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Deborah replied January 30th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I agree!! I hope ABC reads these postings!!!
Brian says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Just bring back “One Life To Live” Although it’s most likely too late for that, too many cast members have moved on.

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Monica replied January 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
ITA. As much as I’d love for One Life To Live to come back in some form, most of my favorite actors from the show have moved on and THIS makes it hard for me to keep fighting for it to come back.

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Roseann says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:02 pm

I would rather have one life to live and all my children as a primetime , I will Not watch Americana, and Nashville!! Just put our sopas back on tv why replace them

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I miss oltl soooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Terri Nix-jeffries says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:05 pm

These will boycotted as well. You do not take shows away from faithful, loyal viewers as has been done to many. Either bring our shows back or release the rights to production back to Agnes Nixon or someone who will put them back on the air. The consumer/ABC/Disney relationship has been ruined. I would think ABC/Disney would try to repair this relationship instead of being put through a fam media based storm and risk bankruptcy.

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Allison replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Damn straight.

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jennifer taylor replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
AMEN TO THAT……..

Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cindy says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm

You have GOT to be shitting me!!!!! OMG

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Johanna says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm

Why not greenlight it during the day? Since most of us are not watching ABC/D aren’t they doomed to fail? I will not invest my time into any programs on this network until they make things right! SWAN (Stand With Agnes Nixon) forever, Bring Back OLTL!

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Allison replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Amen!

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Judy replied January 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Totally agree!!!! I want my OLTL back!! Nothing else will do!

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Affimative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerri Clorley says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:11 pm

Two more shows to put on my “not watch” list. I would have gladly watched AMC and OLTL at night. Too little, too late, ABC!

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Brenda replied February 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Absolutely agree!!
JayinNJ says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm

I totally agree with Mary, while the ratings for the Revolution continue to hit an all time low week after week ABC still continues to air this make over show, they have not announced on pulling the plug and I don’t think they ever will. While bringing these 2 prime time soaps on, ABC is looking to beat ratings with Dallas coming back that’s all good but what about those of us that want OLTL and AMC back, it seems as though ABC has forgotten all about daytime and is worried about primetime, ABC can and never be what it was when Dallas and Dynasty were both aired, they’re continuing to lose viewers that don’t want to watch anything on their station and I’m one of them as far as I’m concerned ABC is dead to me.

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Johanna replied January 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
ANEN and might add HONK!!!

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jonny rotten replied January 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
dallas was on cbs

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jackie says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm

GAG ME NOW UMM HELLO???? THATS DOWNRIGHT SCRIPTED TV YOU INDIGNANT MONEY HUNGRY LOSERS!!!!! RIGHT BACK WHERE YA WERE B4 YOU KILLED AMC, OLTL N GH!!!IMBECILES! CATASTROPHIC FOOLS!! FATBOY BATTALI REVOLTING REVOLUTION KATIE CRAPOURIC INSTEAD OF MASS FOLLOWERS(N NIELSEN RATERS, NO DOUBT) OF AMERICANA IN THE FORM OF SOAP OPERAS…YA GOT CRUSTY BACHELOR/ETTE PRIMETIME N ALL THAT HO HUM GARBAGE! NO WONDER ABC MEANS ALREADT BEEN CONDEMNED YOU IN A WORD SUCK!

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gloria replied January 29th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
YOU GO, GIRL!!!!

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Eileen Hargis says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm

I lived in Nashville for 30 years moving to Vegas last August. There was a lot of buzz about Nasville the show as Gaylord is big on it. It would probably be interesting as Nashville and country music are a draw but I dont think ABC will get any hits for a long time as soap opera fans arent happy and will not support ABC in anything. They will start to see e the results od reaping what they sow. Soap lovers can keep the ban going and ABC’s overall rating will continue to tank.

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Betty Coleman replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I live just outside of Nashville, and even I, will not watch the show NASHVILLE. I will not support ABC in anything they do if they cannot have consideration for what the fans have repeatly told them they want.

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I agree with Betty!!!!!!!!!
Mary H says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm

I have to say ABC sickens me right now. How can you cancel to shows that have been on for over 40 yrs to be crap on saying that you not in to soaps and now have the nerve to put to sops on at night. ABC haven’t you thought about the daytime fans? I guess not! Shame on you ABC! Bring back the daytime soasps and maybe your night time soaps won’t go down the drain like The Chew and The Revolution. Because then you might get your loyal daytime viewers back

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Cheryl says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Yes, OLTL and AMC were there for the taking. I do not and will not watch anything new on ABC.

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Goes for me TOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Allison says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Won’t watch. There’s enuf pt drama series on ABC already. Rather keep GH forever daytime , and let Revenge, Greys, private prac, OUAT, Castle and Body Proof stay pt. Kill the Revulsion and the Spew and bring back daytime dramas!!

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Claudia Kurzyna says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm

ABC has destroyed its daytime soap lineup, leaving on only General Hospital! We do not need any nighttime soaps!

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barbara t says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm

thats what I have been doing all morning and afternoon telling every one to go there and leave a comment ,can you believe this I put this on a facebook sight I go to told everyone go to the sight and complain there are a few people saying the soap opera days are over ,so I had to say something ,this is bad ,what is so wrong with putting one life to live on instead of the other shows they just bought ,abc has alot of soaps on at night ,why did they choose to insult the daytime soap fans ,you would think they would want us to watch there dumb shows ,well im not ,they killed the soaps ,soapnet is gone in march ,what the hell are we going to do?talk about kicking the fans in the ass .I cant believe that abc just pissed me off even more then I was before I got up this morning.

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nancy says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Seriously???? I’m so thrilled that ABC has found the world of soaps at night. Now when will the night people talk to the day people and tell them how stupid they are????

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linde Bally says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

I will never watch another ABC show again you screwed up ABC now you pay.I am supporting GH only that goes and you will never be turned on in my house again ever.

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virginia robbins says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

I think you should put one life to live backf on daytime or nobody is going to give abc a second look at anything new or old. why should anyone watch abc when you take away shows after we all get watch them for years and now they are just gone I think it is sorry and I plus many other will not watch anything on abc new or old

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TS1 says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Monday is already taken.. Castle. Anything else I won’t be watching. ABC is never going to be number 1 to true Soapfans until they change their minds admit their mistakes an bring back our Daytime soaps AMC and OLTL.

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MaryAnne Robertson says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm

GH Primetime !!! Hmm !!!! Aren’t they thinking about that ? They messed up on daytime now they want to fix night time , Go Figure !! You know Sonny on GH has bipolar I think ABC has it TOO !!!

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ethel replied January 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
if gh does go prime time it will only be one night a week……………i think it is almost too late for amc & oltl to go prime time because most actors have moved on

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Susan M. replied January 29th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Maybe OLTL actors would consider coming back!!! If OLTL fans showed them a lot of support & love!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope Agnes Nixon gets the rites for OLTL, then she could do what she wants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jennifer says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm

If you are bringing Bullshit soaps back like that —
Just bring back what people will watch OLTL and AMC and leave GH alone!!!

Also — leave Desperate Housewives alone as well!!!

People love that show and watch it all the time!!!

ABC — you are assholes!

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Colleen Kaleta says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm

OH My Gosh is ABC messed up., they say one thing and do another ..Bring Back our stories not new ones..You killed Daytime and we want it back.. The actors who worked there butts off daily deserve more than this.. ABC get your heads on straight you’ve been a disaster with your thinking since early April when you did the deed..Come on save some face already!

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Tess says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

I think Chrishell would be great for the Nashville one. Don’t know if she sings though!
I’d like to see someone like Greg Vaughn for the fashion show along with Susan Lucci.

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Linda says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:49 pm

@MaryAnne Robertson – you are so right! I will not invest one moment in anything abc puts on either daytime or nightime. I had my heart broken when OLTL was allowed to die. I had been a faithful viewer of abc before that. Now I will not even watch their local news; channel 7 abc in New York! Hello fox and cbs!

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Diane says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:52 pm

They messed up their daytime lineup so now they think people want to watch soaps at night,I am boycotting the whole network cause even if you like a primetime show they cancel

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jennifer taylor says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm

“SHAME ON YOU ABC/DISNEY YOU ARE SOOOOO DELETED FROM MY LIFE AND MY FAMILY’S..BIG MISTAKE..WHY DON’T YOU TRY ASKING WHAT YOUr FANS WANT???OOPS TO LATE…BRING BACK OUR SOAPS AND MAYBE WE WILL BRING BACK YOUR RATINGS..ARE YOU KIDDING STOP INSULTING US..DO YOU THINK WE ARE PUPPETS THAT YOU CAN PULL A STRING AND WE GO THE WAY YOU WANT???GUESS WHAT WE ARE NOT AND WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT OUR SOAPS BACK..GOT IT GOODWE ARE SO TIRED OF ALL THE SHOWS YOU THROW ON AND THEN THEY ARE GONE WE WANT OUR SOAPS THAT WE DEDICATED TO AND LOVE AND CHERISH???…U R BLOCKED……………………….…………………….”

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Tanya Smith says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm

You have got to be kidding me!!! Really? They are creating NEW soaps after cutting two known and loved soaps!!!! Why not turn OLTL into a primetime soap!!! It would be watched for sure! This makes me even angrier at ABC! Boycotting ABC sounds better and better!

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AnnaR says:

January 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Unbelievable. We don’t want new soaps we want OLTL and AMC. I only watch GH on abc since they cancelled OLTL and AMC.

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Andrea D says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm

I am now supporting the soap opera genre by watching y and r and dool. I am not interested in this mess. I will watch gh only when my characters from oltl are on it. I am done with abc.

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Betty Coleman replied January 28th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I read in a statement made by “Blair” that she, Star, John and Todd are only going to GUEST STAR on GH for four shows, that ABC is trying to make the fans think they are there to stay and she just wanted the truth to be known.

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Andrea D replied January 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I read something about that too. I will watch it for the episodes that they are on and nothing else.

ethel replied January 28th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
kristen alderson (star) twitted that she signed a 3 year contract for gh
jamie says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:11 pm

abc needs to get thier heads on straight goodness why wouldn’t you move the soaps you have to primetime intead of producing new ones

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Torrey says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

How about this ABC…..why don’t you cancel Anne Sweeney’s contract and bring back our daytime soaps? that’s the only thing that makes sense now. Since both of your replacement shows aren’t doing any better than AMC or OLTL, in the ratings, it’s time to admit that you were wrong and rectify the situation. Things will only get worse for you, if you don’t.

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jamie says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

abc needs to get thier heads on straight goodness why wouldn’t you move the soaps you have to primetime intead of producing new ones goodness

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Susan Manning says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

This is as stupid as what they have done. Bring back AMC and OLTL then we the viewers will help ABCD get the night time right. I dont want any Americaina or Nashville i wannt AMC and OLTL back. Stop messing up ABCD. The most constant thing has been the soaps. I start watching a show on ABCD and then it’s gone. Wake the heck up.

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Lauren says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:28 pm

I can’t believe ABC lately!!! They kill 2 of their best daytime soaps, AMC and OLTL, claiming that dattime viewers want reality rather than the fictional world of daytime soaps. Nowthey ar planning to air nighttime soaps????? Sorry, but I don’t see the logic here. Is this ABC’s way of appeasing angry aoap fan?? I like the plot ideas, though, especially for “Nashville”

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Jenna says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm

They could put Ryan Gosling in one or both and I still would not watch.

So sick of ABC. I watch GH now to support them for however they last and that is IT! ABC does not exist except for that 58 minutes or whatever that GH runs.

I think they are just trying to copy TNT with their revival of longtime PRIME time soap, DALLAS. I don’t think either night time soap will work. Those days, rather nights, are gone, but DAYTIME is still alive and well. They didn’t need to take away our daytime genre for stupid talk shows and reality shows. There is enough of that on at night and just about any basic cable channel.

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el rizzo says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

I WILL NEVER watch anything on abc ever again until my soaps AMC n OLTL are returned to their day time spots…i will not invest anytime into anything new from ABC after they broke my heart by removing shows i have watched for 30+ years!!! go to hell abc!!!

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gloria says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Bring back AMC, OLTL & keep GH, damn it.

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Betty Coleman says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm

I have had it with ABC. If they do not bring back AMC and OLTL, I will NEVER watch anything on their channel, especially another newly created soap opra. It’s like they have no regards to what the fans want and refuse to listen to us. If we were to tell them we liked peas – they would say here, eat corn instead. I don’t want a substitute and will not accept one. I have already switched over to another station and will stay there unless our soaps are brought back.

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Splum says:

January 28, 2012 at 2:50 pm

ABC can bite me. They killed OLTL and they have the audacity to greenlight TWO NIGHTTIME SOAPS?????? Total insult

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Tammy Grzenia says:

January 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm

I dont care what they put on i will never watch ,I have been Boycotting ABC since April . i will continue to do so. i will also boycott these shows I .have been watching NBC & CBS SOAPS .SINCE MAY .AND THEY ARE GOOD .ABC HOW COULD YOU DO THIS WHAT A SLAP IN OUR FACE. YOU SUCK.

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mosshane58 says:

January 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm

I could care less what abc does.They are cancelling nighttime shows to.Who wants to watch a channel you can;t deoend on if your show will be there next year,What it takes to produce on night time show they could produce daytime soaps for weeks.

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Nancy Melman replied January 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Yes!!!

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avellina says:

January 28, 2012 at 3:38 pm

This makes my blood boil ! It seems abc simply decided to dump the 10 thousand longtime loyal fans for new and ( because they perceive the daytime soap fans to be old ladies) younger ones. All My Children, One Life To Live and GH are worth bringing back and keeping, daytime or primetime!

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Karen says:

January 28, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Here’s a thought….they can greenlight all they want! Thousands of soap fans have ABC on blacklight!! Meaning, we could care less what they want to put on the air ever againm and have them turned off! Bring back OLTL and maybe we will give think about it…till then there is no ABC in my house!

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Lee Ann says:

January 28, 2012 at 3:56 pm

I refuse to watch anything on abc .Bring back “All My Children” and “One life to Live”.

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david says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Screw ABC! Soaps aren’t good enough for daytime but they are fine for primetime?! Talk about adding insult to injury. Since ABC dumped the exceptional and dearly loved OLTL after more than 43 years when it was at its best, we should take a chance and emotionally invest our time in these primetime soaps?! NO, I don’t think so.

The only success in primetime for ABC this season was Revenge. You think that would have taught them something, that canceling OLTL for The Revolution was a mistake–but NO!–daytime and primetime have dissociative identity disorder. So they think these new primetime soaps can capitalize on the success of Revenge? NO, I don’t think so.

Revenge cannot hold a candle to OLTL for family drama, romance, humor, cuteness, fun, musicals, parodies, catfighting friendships, rip-off-your-clothes sex, and overall entertainment. It’s not too late for OLTL. Most of the actors do not have other work and for those that do, they could return as their contracts expire. They can create two new soaps but cannot save OLTL?! NO, I don’t think so.

These executives are spitting in our faces. Now they realize soaps are in their financial interest, after telling us soaps are dead?! This infuriates and disgusts me beyond belief. I will not reward this [insert obscenity] network for killing OLTL and treating its cast, crew, and viewers the way it has. FIX the problem, ABC, and get OLTL produced somewhere, otherwise, go [insert obscenity] yourself.

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Gina says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm

ABC you suck!!!! You take amc and oltl off because you said you want out of the soap business Lairs I’m so done with this crap . It just piss me when I read this I hope that nobody watch your damn anymore!! You could have of soaps but no we want to give you reaitly tv that nobody cares but your boss because he wants the money for hisself who need to make 31 million dollars year I hope with all the bad press he getting maybe someone up higher then him will do something about his stupid decisons!! Abc needs a new president !!!

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Darford says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm

Unless one is called “AMC” and the other “OLTL”…. Zzzz

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Anthony says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Doesn’t matter what they do to primetime. ABC is cancelled from my household until such time as One life to Live finds a new, permanant home on a network that listens to viewers.

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Sue says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:39 pm

I would not watch anything on ABC if I were in solitary confinement and it was the only thing on tv! Sell our show.s if you don’t want them!

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david says:

January 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm

I don’t care about the proposed themes! I don’t care who is cast in the lead roles! I just want Slezak, verDorn, Strasser, TSJ, Lozono, RH, Depaiva, Woods, Smith, Archer, Williamson, Easton, Kristen, Patrick Gibbons, and EVERYONE ELSE from OLTL in a soap. Together they are MAGIC. Call it whatever you want. Just stop jerking us around with pathetic substitutes and thinking we can be herded like cattle.

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Jillian says:

January 28, 2012 at 5:07 pm

For God’s sake, please, SOMEBODY cast Rebecca Budig on one of these primetime shows! That girl should have been a primetime lead AGES ago!

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Brandye Carlock says:

January 28, 2012 at 5:49 pm

This is just stupid! They don’t make any sense! They have so many soap fans boycotting them now, what would be the point in having new nightime soaps when all we want is our old soaps back! ABC keeps shooting themselves in the foot!

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Suzanne Melton says:

January 28, 2012 at 6:08 pm

ABC could just move OLTL to primetime and keep it on TV. I miss OLTL and ABC m ade a big mistake by cancelling it. The Chew and The Revolution are terrible!!!!!!!

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Debbi says:

January 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm

All My Children was a great show, so now they have the nerve to think that we will watch some “new show” that want to put on to a peez me….sorry ABC , there is no chance that I want to get involved in another show. I know that you are realizing that you made a big mistake by cancelling these soap’s ….yes you sure the heck did….I have said it before, and will say it again since you don’t listen to your viewers…BRING BACK THE SHOWS WE LOVE ALL MY CHILDREN….Give viewer what they want. It makes no sence to make new soaps, they cost money to make too.

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Takeitish says:

January 28, 2012 at 6:26 pm

Won’t be watching! I don’t watch, buy or support ANYTHING on ABC or created by Disney! If Soap operas in the eyes of this company are so Passe then what are these two shows doing on the air? I thought according to ABC/Disney people wanted information and Style programming? You can run but you can’t hide from your LIES! Give Agnes her shows, put them back in to production and back on the air where they belong you self serving pompous, lying jerks!

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tamara says:

January 28, 2012 at 6:50 pm

i don’t understand why they cancelled OLTL and AMC in the first place. Apparently soaps are more costly, but they have a devoted fan base. Instead of ABC thinking in terms of greed, they should play shows that the people actually want to see, and provide Entertainment. OLTL & AMC’s ratings were even better than what is currently playing. I love General Hospital and I hope that it remains running. If they cancel it than I will not be motivated to watch anything on ABC.

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Dr. Donald G. Boudreau says:

January 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm

We, as in our family and friends are continuing our boycotting of ALL THINGS ABC and Disney for their having cancelled “One Life to Live” and “All My Children.” In response to these cancellation policy decisions, decisions made by Disney’s Robert Iger and ABC’s Anne Sweeney and Brian Frons, ABC is witnessing half of the Daytime audience fan base flee its network programming entirely, as some acutely perceptive observers many months ago had well predicted would be the tragic outcome. In an honorable business culture, these three individuals would have already committed a form of corporate “hari kari” for having offended and injured as many parties as they have through their rank incompetence, poor business decision making, and despicable treatment of their customers/loyal viewers of many decades duration. And, moreover, for their manifest classless crude abuse, deception, and disrespect they rained on the ever talented casts and crews of “One Life to Live” and “All My Children.” Iger, Frons, and Sweeney are disgraces to the honorable traditions that have historically prevailed in the American entertainment and broadcasting industries, and the latter Ms. Sweeney in having been complicit to the extreme in Mr. Frons’ notorious in the public record, chronic repeated ageist and sexist conduct, is a disgrace to the American womens movement that tragically paved the opportunity for her; powerfully witness her wrecking operations in a Bain Company-like looting fashion of a great American storytelling genre birthed by writer Agnes Nixon that sustained primetime programming on this country’s networks for decades. Then, the three of them, Iger, Sweeney and Frons went on to replace such iconic American classics (with millions of LOYAL daytime viewers) with junk programming a la The Spew and The Revulsion in further debasing the American contemporary television medium. Shame on the three of them and let damn be done! ABC/Disney: Release the rights now being held “hostage” to those shows and allow another network or cable provider to bring these shows back to their audiences. For once, do the right thing and cease your contemptful conduct toward your customer base that is inimical to every sound business practice. Begin, then, to advertise ABC in a positive public light.

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barbara t replied January 29th, 2012 at 11:57 am
you should go to (DEADLINE.COM) keep scrolling down ,its on the next page now, abc 2 soaps pilot, in prime time ,tell those people what us soap people are all about ,I gave someone there a piece of my mind ,never mind about that just go there and give them and abc hell.

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Dr. Donald G. Boudreau replied January 29th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Thanks Barbara – done!

barbara t replied January 29th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
I wonder if deadline gets rid of some of the posts ,I had a few words to say to some vincent guy ,he insulted me ,so I wrote back ,it was up on the sight several times now its gone,I dont get it ,then several people at facebook had a few choice words for this vincent guy and theres wasnt there either ,that has happened to me several times Im not liking that my comments and others have disappeared from that sight,that vincent guy is a smart ass ,know it all,and his posts seem to continue.I dont get it unless he is just a troublemaker who can work his magic on other peoples posts,he thinks he is the smart guy and we are a bunch of dummies,I had a good comeback and its gone ,like I never wrote it.

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barbara t replied January 29th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
now my second one is gone Id love to know who that vincent hanna guy is there ,all Im doing is giving it back to him and tell him hes not a nice person I also said that if my post mysteriously disappears again Ill know why,he can dish it out but cant take it ,what a hipocrite ,hes a plant put there by deadline,he has to be ,someone at facebook said his name and a few of there posts were not there ,well what the hell is the sense in having a sight and you can get attacked but you cant stand up for yourself thats wrong dont think I will ever post there again,I cant say never ,guess we will see in time .any way I saw your post ,it says how we all feel thanks.
Nancy Melman says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Who cares what they put on, they sound like the regular crap. Obviously they do not listen to the people who had formerly supported them everyday for very many years and were unconditionally loyal. I still won’t watch them. Don’t they know that they are on the bottom of the networks. Really bad thinking and ABC’s part as usual. Nothing new except, I really don’t think anyone will support this.

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Nancy Melman says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Oh my goodness, I just read the other comments. Wow just like mine. You can tell them they are going down fast.

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Janey says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm

Well well well! The Evil Empire (ABC/Disney) has finally gotten the message that they screwed up by deciding to get rid of their daytime soaps. They are also aware that millions of fans, including myself, are boycotting all things ABC/Disney. So in order to try and appease us they have decided to create prime-time soaps to try to woo us back like we are their little sheeple. Too late loosers!! You have already lost your audience and we will not be coming back for the crumbs you decide to throw at us. There is only one thing you can do to make this right and you are determined not to do it so all I have to say is: Goodbye Forever, ABC!!!!!! You are offering us too little too late!!

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danielle says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm

not interested!!! nothing can beat OLTL and AMC

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mARY says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:43 pm

I agree with every one of these comments. I , too have dropped ABC from my watched channels. BRING BACK OUR SOAPS.

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SiteAdvocate says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:45 pm

Michael,
I hope these two new primetime serials will help a majority of our daytime personalities find work. Wouldn’t it be nice if OLTL’s RSW,FF and JPL were reunited in one of these?

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Jan says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:47 pm

I see a clear slap in the face to AMC & OLTL.
Neither sound interesting to me.

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Lamar says:

January 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm

well, the storylines for the two new prime time soaps sound really exciting (sarcasam)…. even if they sounded like something new and innovative, wouldn’t watch anyway… if they aren’t an instant ratings hit, they’ll be cancelled after a few eps, just like most new shows… nothing is given a chance to develop an audience anymore…. I NO LONGER watch any new prime time series… tired of investing my time in something new and then having it yanked away in a heartbeat…. in the mean time america has been dumbed down with so-called reality shows.. … have no interest in watching large people loose weight, swapping wives, brain dead bachelors/bachlorettes, people jumping around on mazes, cooking etc, etc……. bring back GOOD scripted dramas and LEAVE THEM ON, starting with OLTL, and maybe I’ll start watching TV again (down to maybe a couple of hours a week.. mainly just the news)….

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Wendy says:

January 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm

It’s funny, I remember a bittersweet moment in the last week of One Life to Live when Roxy was upset about Fraternity Row being cancelled and she made the comment that she used to watch with her mom and Natalie used to watch with her. Soaps are so rich in tradition and it’s sad that ABC decided to pull the plug on them, I’m guessing because it costs less to run a show with only a few people on it as opposed to all the actors and crew that the soaps had. If it’s all about the almighty buck, how much money are you making now ABC? If no one watches, what is the point of having ANY shows on. What’s sickening as that you pull these long time running shows that have obviously mass numbers of viewers and slap your loyal watchers in the face with the less than par shows you now have on. It’s an insult. You’ve done nothing to show your appreciation to your viewers. I hope whoever is in charge of making these decisions loses their job because it’s obvious you have NO clue how to satisfy your audience.

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LeAnna Laine says:

January 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm

I want my daytime soaps back!! I do not want to watch new ones at night. Can we all remember Dynasty? Dallas? There was another one and I can’t remember the name…it was a spin off from Dallas. Anyway it doesn’t matter. They took off soaps that we had a long standing relationship with AMC & OLTL & now possibly GH, for over 40 years!! You can’t replace those characters and storylines with new shows!

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Brian replied January 29th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
knots landing

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Lynn says:

January 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm

ABC still keeps digging their grave deeper & deeper !!!

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Leina says:

January 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

Look at how many people have responded to hearing about ABC’s new primetime soap shows. How many of these new shows will be on for 40+ years I’d say none.. I loathe what ABC has done to all the loyal and heartbroken fans of AMC and OLTL. Remember, they showed us how little they cared about us, let’s continue to show them how little we care about them by never supporting them. May all their shows tank big time….

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barbara t replied January 29th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Ive been leaving alot of comments at deadline, everyone should let all the air heads that are mocking us soap fans and abc let them know we are here and not giving up,I left about 6 comments to several people ,and I will go back later and write some more I ve been doing this since yesterday ,GO TO DEADLINE .COM,keep scrolling down its there ,just look for anything abc and pilot soaps Im so pissed of about this.keep fighting for ALL MY CHILDREN AND ONE LIFE TO LIVE.

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Lita Eastman says:

January 29, 2012 at 12:50 am

Are they for real, or in a parallel universe? Our soaps back on or no new soaps for my family. ABC is on very thin ice in my house.

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Kathy says:

January 29, 2012 at 6:25 am

I will not watch these shows or any other shows that ABC airs. Bring back AMC and then I will watch . I am enjoying the remaining “real” soaps on CBS and NBC. I do not like talk shows, game shows, reality shows . I also watch Venice the series and the Bay on the Internet. The have a lot of wonderful actors from previous soaps. ABC has lost me forever.

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lisa says:

January 29, 2012 at 7:26 am

As far as I’m concerned ABC is a dead network……don’t care what they put on,cause I won’t watch.

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moneek77 says:

January 29, 2012 at 8:03 am

I wouldn’t watch either of these so called soaps. ABC cancelled AMC and OLTL for cheaper substitutes and in doing so also cancelled loyal soap followers for the afternoon.
No way would I stop my boycott of ABC/Disney to watch.

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Vickie says:

January 29, 2012 at 8:10 am

just as ABCD refuses to listen to the formerly loyal fans, so the former fans will not listen to ABCD……..It really doesn’t matter what they offer now——–they don’t exist any longer.

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Terri says:

January 29, 2012 at 8:44 am

This is absurd!!!! That is what I think!! We don’t want stupid prime-time shows! We want our daytime soaps back. If ABC/Disney can afford to produce two new soaps for prime-time then they can bring back our soaps or better yet sell them to another channel that will bring back our soaps. Daytime soaps are by far so much better than prime-time. We daytime soap fans are millions strong, and we will not stop fighting until ABC/Disney finally realizes the mistake they made, and either releases our soaps to another network or cancels the idiot show from 1-3 and bring back what we need. ABC/Disney ratings are sinking fast. Our boycott seems to be working. The only show from this channel that made the Neilson top twenty was that show where the kid swore so much the last show and has everyone complaining. I think it is called American Family or something like that. I don’t watch anything on ABC anymore except the local news. Anyway this show came in fourteenth out of twenty and that was the only show from ABC that made the ratings list. Not a very good showing if you ask me!!! Smarten up ABC/Disney and fess up to the fact that you made a big mistake. We are not going to give up, and we are all watching other networks. Especially CBS. They are not affiliated with ABC at all which is my understanding.

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terri k says:

January 29, 2012 at 9:03 am

this is why i watch cable, moved to cnn for fear i might watch an abc channel. you guys have really revealed how little you care for your daytime viewers……no i am not in the 18 – 49 group…..but you guys make me feel like you have already put me out to pasture and i am not even at retirement age yet!!!!

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barbara t replied January 29th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I am in the 49 and older group and its an insult to me that Im not counted and google this ,more older people watch tv the any other age group ,its sad that they put there older soap fans,out to pasture ,as you said .but its also sad that all television shows are designed for the younger people.the reason i liked the soaps was anyone could watch them.so abc can never convince me that the ratings showed no one was watching the soaps anymore ,because its not true ,we are here we are all over the place ,just we were never counted correctly and honestly.shame on you abc .

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GemmaG says:

January 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm

Sorry, this makes no sense. I just can not look at ABC or Disney the same ever again. They try to corner the market on children’s classics but my son sure can forgo Winnie the Poo and Mickey Mouse as the movies and merchandise are just representative of a CORPORATATION who keeps on insulting their audience…. loyal fans who’ve watched for decades!!! Bring back our show and admit you and Brian Frons, Sweeney and Igor make a mistake, and as soap fans are forgiving, we might just forgive….

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Brian says:

January 29, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Those lucky Brits recently celebrated 50 years of Coronation Street. Too bad ABC didn’t look to see how loyal soap viewers are treated properly in different parts of the world. Such classics are treated with respect… I’ve heard even The Queen has even admitted to tuning in from time to time.

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angela says:

January 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm

I thought abc said “the genre is dying, this is not what the people want. Our viewers want more reality based programming”. Or does that rule only apply to the daytime audience? I guess when prime time rolls around we want soaps? Make up your mind abc which one is it?

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Sherry says:

January 29, 2012 at 7:56 pm

ABC you sicken me. You tell us that the soap genre is dying and that we want informative T. V . So you cancel two great shows and put on two cheap reality shows. Now you decide to put two new soaps on at night?! So I guess we want information in the daytime and entertainment at night? Do you think our viewing habits change with the rise and set of the sun? You could have just put AMC and OLTL on at night and everything would have been fine. Sure, it would have been an adjustment from watching five days a week to only one but in time all of us would have been fine with it because we still would have had our soaps.

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Karen Carroll says:

January 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm

I agree with all replies above. OLTL has a LOYAL fan base and ABC is losing theirs. Very insulting

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Sal says:

January 30, 2012 at 12:06 am

I wonder if Steve Burton will be on there?…..He has southern rootd…and there are rumord
of him leaving…..also I read on a soap board he had some type
of medical procedure………..I can see Sbu on a show called
Nashville…..

plus he is gorgeous with those eyes……..

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Mo says:

January 30, 2012 at 7:31 am

Neither subjects grab my interest. A soap about the fashion industry? I’m already watching it. It’s called The Bold and The Beautiful.

If they wanted primetime soaps, why didn’t they just move the two they had to the evening. Even making them one night a week would have been better for than cancelling them. Someone is thinking bass ackwards.

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Torrey says:

January 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm

If ABC really wants to fix this, this is how they can do it. Bring back AMC & OLTL and run them on a prime-time schedule. From September – May new episodes of the daytime lineup….and from June – August they can run classic episodes, or come up with some kind of Summer program to run while the soaps are off. This would cut down on the soap budget majorly, plus this would give the talent some time off to go and do movies or work on other projects until the Fall schedule began. I don’t know whey they don’t do this. I would rather have 9 months of my soap with a three month break…than to not have my soaps at all.

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Sherry replied January 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Torrey, I agree whole heartily with you. This would have been a great compromise for all involved.

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PGP says:

January 30, 2012 at 4:13 pm

With the slight success of Revenge, I am not really surprised. That being said, I wish ABC would have migrated a shortened cast of One Life To Live to Primetime in the form of Llanview. It beats migrating the cast to GH, which I do not watch.

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Jessica says:

January 30, 2012 at 4:34 pm

With all due respect, Michael, I don’t give a shit what ABC does.

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Barb says:

January 30, 2012 at 8:15 pm

Really?! Are you kidding me? What a slap in the face to ALL of ABC daytime fans. Did we mention for over 40 years we have been faithful viewers. Kept ABC daytime alive and this is how “they” would like to thank us???? By putting “new” Soaps on at night? Wow thank you ABC for your generosity!! I’m sure you are familiar with the expression “if it’s not broke…. Don’t fix it!”. The right thing to do would be give back to us what was taken away. Move our two beloved soaps to primetime. Who wants to invest in new characters when we have our precious timeless favorites? There would be no need to daytime employed to dvr we would get to be home at night cuddle up watching “Tad the Cad”, “Ms. La Lucie, “, “Vicki I mean Nickki”, let’s not forget the “Buchannans” first run. Please don’t belittle the loyal fans that has made ABC daytime what (at least up until now) what it is today. You should be thanking us. From where were standing NBC daytime is looking better all the time! Perhaps NBC primetime may eventually look equally as good if this is how ABC expresses their gratitude. Just saying!

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Mary Weber says:

January 30, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Personally, I don’t care what ABC does anymore. I have BOYCOTTED ABC since One Life To Live ended, with the exception of General Hospital. I have been encouraging others to do the same. I watched ABC most evenings, too, since the shows that I saw advertised on ABC Soaps are the ones I tended to watch at night. The CEO of Disney made over 34 MILLION dollars & put hundreds of people out of work from the Soaps. I guess the GREED factor was too much to fight. I know Hoover will no longer be advertising on ABC in protest, so I only have 2 things to say…BOYCOTT ABC & GO OUT AND BUY A HOOVER VACUUM !!!!

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Brian says:

January 31, 2012 at 7:32 am

I’d rather watch “Gossip Girl” than either of these two.

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Tom655 says:

January 31, 2012 at 10:15 am

You idiots at ABC are going to bust hell wide open. The sensible thing to do: as it’s been said before–move OLTL and AMC to night time.. damn–it’s not rocket science.

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Becky Cloutier says:

February 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

We dont want just any soaps We want all my Children and One life to live BACK!!!!!!!!!

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evyllynmorgana says:

February 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm

Thank you this whole make a reality show about everything is dull and silly. I miss OLTL we need to bring the sexy and the fun back.

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Rita777 says:

February 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm

Americana and Nashville, NOT going to work for this watcher! We want All my Children/Pine Valley and One Life TO Live/Llanview.

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Brenda says:

February 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm

I guess ABC wants to be in last place. Not watching your new shows ABC, only GH and nothing else. Hear that.

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Terri replied February 5th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Amen sister!

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Nancy replied July 10th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Amen to both of you. I am never ever watching ABC again except GH and if they cancel that my cable is done too. Internet all the way. Who needs this crap?
Sandy Flynn says:

February 7, 2012 at 9:34 am

I want AMC and OLTL back. Not interested in either of the new soaps.

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Heather A says:

February 11, 2012 at 8:38 am

I will never watch any new show by ABC! I am only interested in OLTL and AMC!! Bring back our soaps and I will watch you again…Until then, I hope all your shows fail!

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James Waterson says:

February 21, 2012 at 1:28 am

Wow, they really need to consider Sherrie Austin for Nashville. That would be PERFECT casting.

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Kara says:

February 28, 2012 at 11:13 am

If ABC just wanted to change the time that soaps are aired on their network, they should have simply moved AMC and OLTL to nighttime. I am disgusted that they want to bring new soaps on when they canceled two wonderful soaps that many people have grown up with. I, and many, many others are desperate to have our soap families back. I would be so thrilled if they would just bring back OLTL and AMC, no matter what time they want to air them. Until that happens, I will not watch anything on ABC anymore, daytime or primetime.

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landview lover says:

May 2, 2012 at 11:50 am

i copy on all of you. abc has 2 shows that people love and have loved for over 40 years and they put on more of the same old crap .they could reward the people who have tuned into THEIR network for so long by moving our soaps to the pm. The cast, story line, crew, fans all are there. They think fans of amc & oltl will forget about it. i miss my soaps every day and i will never tune into abc untill they bring them back in some way

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Nancy says:

July 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm

No one watches anything they have on now and if GH leaves so will all of us permanently.

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