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90 March 4th, 2013 All My Children’s Cady McClain New Blog On Sexing Up The Soaps!

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After yesterday’s video posting by One Life to Live co-head writer Thom Racina that confirmed what has been talked about that, there would be some swear words used in the scripts at times by the various characters at One Life to Live, now comes confirmation of another kind from All My Children favorite Cady McClain (Dixie Martin) in her new blog post! 

McClain offers up a vantage point on sex in dramatic forms of entertainment, and what fans are going to see on the new AMC and OLTL which is more skin and more sex in the new half hour format reboot by Prospect Park’s, as they move into a more progressive medium, the Internet.  Here is Cady’s thought-provoking post below, entitled, “Let’s Talk About Sex”.

Cady McClain:  “Okay. You’ve all heard the news, All My Children is going to be a bit more risqué than usual. Yep. I am not the first to mention it, but I thought I might be one of the first to put it on the table for discussion. Let’s talk about sex, and about sex in our dramatic entertainment. Too much? Not enough? Well you can bet I have an opinion.

My opinion is this: sex is a good thing, wait, scratch that, sex is a GREAT thing! It’s a healthy impulse and a wonderful way to enjoy being, well, about as close as you can get to someone. Frankly, I think we have WAY too MUCH violence and way too LITTLE love making in our entertainment. This is probably because we are a country based on a puritan ethos that doesn’t really want to admit, we ALL LIKE SEX.

Do I recommend using birth control? YOU BET. Do I recommend only having sex when you are ready with someone that you truly CARE about? ABSO-F-ING-LUTELY. Is the young generation having a sexual revolution that no one is really TALKING ABOUT? ONE MILLION TIMES YES.

On another note: do you remember when the soaps were mostly LOVE stories, all leading up to the big moment when the characters would make love? Weren’t those FUN stories to watch? It wasn’t disgusting it was beautiful. I don’t know where those moments went but I am sure happy they are coming back. Passion is important!

I think it’s just as important to remember that as everyone has a different taste in clothes, so we all have a different taste in our fantasies and our lovemaking style. You can learn a lot about a person when you learn these details. When you look at a story from a sexual point of view, these choices are as much a part of a character as their fears, hopes and dreams.

Nudity-smooditty.  So WHAT.  The human body is beautiful and I will admit that I like to look at it, whether it’s a beautiful man or a beautiful woman.  And it doesn’t matter what age they are as long as they are an appropriate age and a consenting adult.

Sexiness is beautiful.  It is something we can and should ALL enjoy, no matter what age we are. Why not let ourselves relax a little?  It might just make for a happier world!    (I swear I am hearing Barry White applauding right now!)”

OK soap fans, now that the’ “cat has been let out of the bag”, what do you think about more sex, more skin, on the soaps?   In many primetime cable television shows, a lot of skin is shown.  Are you OK with it to service the story? As eye-candy? To make the soaps more realistic and move into the year in which we live … 2013?  Weigh-in on this hot topic!

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  1. marfa says:

    Sorry, if I want to see nudity and sex I’ll watch a porn flick. I’m not interested in seeing skin, I’m interested in story lines. Maybe this was a mistake putting the soaps online.

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    kat replied

    I think a lot of fans will tune out if it gets too out of control and I know this is a hard concept for some to grasp but we were not all raised in Californias or NY culture of anything goes. I hate the F word and if anything is way over used its that word. But AMC was on its last legs when it was cancelled unlike OLTL so maybe they feel they need something to keep fans hooked.

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    Tali replied

    I’m not a big fan of potty mouth-love love stories but I’m not for sure they have to be more risque than what has been on soaps in the past. Keep it tasteful – I’ll keep an open mind. Bring on OLTL!!!

    GV replied

    Gee how insulting to insinuate that only us Californians or New Yorkers would enjoy or watch sex! I agree with Cady we should how a lot more love, romance, and even sex as opposed to violence in entertainment. The majority of prime time and daytime shows all have some form of sex and questionable language. They are not saying the are making pornos for pete’s sake and people all over the country are just as apt to enjoy sex as those in CA/NY!!

    Robert replied

    I somehow doubt there are going to be all about sex and nudity now that they are on the internet. The shows now have more freedom to not have to adhere to the silliness in which they hid what couples naturally do in real life. Sorry if you are naive and think those things don’t happen, but for me, I was always annoyed at the way the networks censored things in an unrealistic way. With that said, I don’t want gratiutious nudity, foul langauge and such, so Marfa, chill out and get with the times!

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    dg replied

    Exactly Marfa. Cady is a liberal whackjob.

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    Patrick replied

    I had to google… the definition of “whack job”.

    An extremely erratic or irrational person.

    Patrick replied

    liberal – is more to my liking….

    “Open to new behaviour and opinions and willing to discard “Traditional Values.”

    Period.

    Mitchell1660 replied

    Thank you, Patrick. You said what I was thinking. I can remember when Nina had sex with Steve Jacobi under that bearskin rug in Cortlandt manor. It was pretty risque for the 80s, but I didn’t hear anyone complaining about it. This is a new century, a new era, and the internet opens up more possibilities. Get with the times.

    Christine replied

    I would try and make your point, dg, without resorting to name calling. Cady is entitled to her opinion just as everyone else is.

    Cady McClain has commented on this board before and I would not be surprised if she did again.

    We also have to remember that actors, especially actresses, and especially the theater-trained, usually do not have a problem with nudity as they see it as art. I understand what Cady is saying. I do not agree with all of it, but I understand her perspective.

  2. MK says:

    See, Even Dixie may go topless. (Hopefully, with Tad)!

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    Shari replied

    lol

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  3. michele says:

    sex is fine,to promote a story line,sex for sex sake..not so much…we loved the stories of yesteryear BECAUSE it was romance….smut and romance are two different things.Just as the smut Book Fifty shades of Grey….has so hurt the romance of romantic reading,and trust me,I have read romance for many years.Now due to the fifty shades….hard to even find one that is NOT about kinky sex,that being said same as our stories it is a slippery slope as to have far they will go.Just saying…please have class and the stories will be awesome….but I await to enjoy the stories and hope that perhaps it’s somewhere in the middle…lol

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    dg replied

    Great points Michelle. We watch soaps for the anticipation not gratuitous lust just thrown in for ratings sake.

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    Mitchell1660 replied

    God, how OLD are you people?! It’s okay for Bianca to get raped, but god forbid anyone tear off their clothes and jump in the bed because their attracted to each other? This is 2013! People are HAVING SEX! Why can’t the soaps reflect what’s going on in real life? “Dallas” and “Dynasty” were having waaaay more sex than the daytime dramas at the time, and they were at the top of the ratings.

  4. MK says:

    I think if they push it too much, too fast, they risk turning off the loyal fans before they can attract the new ones. Don’t mind the swearing. But, I don’t think we need topless shots to have the shows be sexier. Sometimes the sexist things occur when our imagination takes over. Always leave them wanting more…

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  5. Llanviewer717 says:

    I agree with Cady 100%. The world would be a much more peaceful and accepting place if we’d finally get over our profound fear of sex. The naked human body is nothing new or shocking. Everyone has one. I just hope TPTB won’t rely on nudity, sex and profanity just because they can use them on the Internet. That would be the easy way of filling time. I hope to see rich and compelling stories with full character development. That’s one of the many things I have always loved about OLTL. So many of the characters are multi-layered, complex individuals. I sincerely hope we won’t loose that. (I hope Thom Racina sees this message.)

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  6. willy garza ( partywill ) says:

    Cady , I couldn’t agree with you more as if I said it myself .
    There truly is too much violence in too many entertainment media type shows , sadly some go way over board .
    As a writer , I understand and relate to more risque sex in daytime and I applaud it , Its time we are able to say we enjoy the things we do without having to be teased , bullied , even mocked for our own personal tastes and lifestyles we choose to lead .
    I enjoyed your blog !
    Much <3 , Huggs .
    Willy , Jenna , Raymond ! ..

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  7. louisa says:

    Nudity is DISTRACTING. It takes you out of the moment. If I saw Cady McClain nude, I would just be thinking about the actress, her blog, how her parents feel about seeing her nude, how old she is, does she have parents still?…etc. etc. I would be gone. She would not be Dixie anymore, she would be an actress taking her clothes off.

    Major turn off. Especially for soap stars. It would be like watching your good friends nude. Ewww.

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    dg replied

    I’m loving you guys want comments. You are restoring my faith that not all soap viewers are hard up desperate housewives with no sex lives. Very cool and you’re making good points. Soaps characters are like our extended family. We don’t want them in porn. lol

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    Johnny replied

    LoL well said, good points made – we may be divided and I hate to be listed as one of the prudes LoL but when it comes to our soaps, I sincerely feel that less is more. I don’t need to see Erica Kane naked, she’s annoying enough fully
    clothed.

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  8. Lynn A says:

    I’m all for swearing….lots of storylines needed it and sounded silly because they couldn’t swear on ABC. As far as the sex, bring it on! I loved 50 Shades, why? Because the bedroom is the one and only place in my life i don’t want control, that is why that book was so popular. It is a romantic story, despite the sexual context. So, if they want to include some real life sex, I say go for it!

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  9. Iakovos says:

    I miss the romance in today’s daytime dramas. I do not care for the careless regard of marriage (I am talking to you, Forresters and Logans!). I am all for reflecting sex and nudity as a part of daliy lives, yes. I am also mindful that such aspects of human nature are often woven into plotlines needlessly. Same with violence.

    Please proceed with care, AMC and OLTL. Just because we can do something does not mean we should do something. With careful review, we often find the obvious is not the best way to tell the story or display the emotions and motivations.

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  10. el says:

    i understand and agree about “where did the love go” and a little skin here and there doesnt bother me…but i honestly dont see the need for nudity…its about chemistry between the actors that really matters…thats what draws you in…if theres no chemistry no matter how much skin and body parts you show it wont matter. If i see a nipple or butt crack i surely wont turn it off…cause im happy just to get my families back.

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  11. jim says:

    I dont see the people down the street naked in bed together because its a private thing. Why do we need to see it on tv or on the internet? Are Clint and Viki going nude and shown in bed together? Older couples do get naked and have sex. So will they be shown. I doubt it. I doubt Bo and Nora will be shown that way too. If we can use our imagination for them, why cant we do it for the others? If there is nothing wrong with the human body then how come all ages from 18 to 78, fat or thin, short or tall, or no matter how they look or how physically fit or disabled they are not all shown. If everyone is doing it then show everyone doing it. People always got naked and had sex b4 soaps were created and didnt need it shown, so why now? It doesnt update shows it takes them downhill.

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    jim replied

    p.s. sex doesnt move the story along it stalls it. sex verses violence. well there have been cases where sex can become violent too.

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    k/kay replied

    Most of you will be yelling put your clothes back on I mean really why do you think they use body doubles in movies.

    dg replied

    Thank you Jim for an honest man ‘s point of view. I agree completely. This isn’t progressive it’s cheap and sleazey

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  12. David J. says:

    With the swearing, it depends. In my opinion, there are two types of shows when it comes to swearing. There are the ones that actually use the swear words for a reason and using them is effective in one way or another (Oz and Queer as Folk come to mind). Then there are ones that do it just to say they did (nothing comes to mind at the moment).

    The same can be said in regards to nudity.

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    Christine replied

    “Then there are ones that do it just to say they did (nothing comes to mind at the moment).”

    I am ashamed to admit I watched it, but I was a Ben Stiller fan. That horrible movie, THE WATCH, fits the bill, David J.

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  13. danicajolie says:

    I am all about the story and I enjoy being able to watch my soaps with my family and discussing them with my family. That is how they lasted so long with one generation encouraging another to watch. I desperately wanted my soap OLTL back, but I am not interested in seeing nudity or them going too far over the edge with the stories. I love the beauty of the stories, the romance, when they are complex, when they are issues that need to be addressed that people do not want to talk about. I just hope they don’t destroy what made us love our soaps.

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  14. Kathy says:

    I fast forward when they get in bed together now on television. We all know what is going on behind closed doors, I don’t need to see it. I started to watch some of the online soaps that sprung up from all the cancellations, I couldn’t watch because of all the nudity and sex. They were soft porn…very little story and all sex. If AMC becomes soft porn, I will not watch. I don’t think anyone will watch because it is so easy to get soft porn online now. There will be nothing different to draw people’s attention to it. Look at the popularity of Downton Abbey, lots of story and sex occurs only when needed for the story. AMC was a classy soap. I am so surprised that Agnes Nixon would agree to a soft porn version of AMC. I will try to watch but I have a feeling it won’t be for long!

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    Tali(not Smith) replied

    Exactly, Kathy. Downton is a perfect example of what soap watchers value in a storyline…romance, passion, characters and dialog over T & A.

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    marfa replied

    Kathy, Oh yeah I do to fast forward, not interested, and don’t care to see anyones junk.
    Sex is a private thing, not something to be flaunted. If Cady wants to do it, then that’s her problem, I just don’t want to have to look at her junk while I’m trying to watch my soap.

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    Patrick replied

    I am so surprised that Agnes Nixon would agree to a soft porn version of AMC.

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    Cady is not stating matter of factly that nuAMC is soft core porn… ????

    she’s not even saying it’s going to happen or be a part of the AMC…

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    Sex is.

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    she’s not even liberating us….

    Sex is part of our vocabulary….

    and with that… dialogue…. is a healthy active mind.

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    Mitchell1660 replied

    NO ONE said it’s going to be soft porn or porn at all! Cady said that the internet has opened up possibilities for more adult stories, which might include stronger language and some nudity. I doubt it the storylines will suffer because of it. It’s called moving the soaps into the 21st century. Nighttime “Dallas” is doing it with gusto.

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    Kathy replied

    No one wants to watch trash tv! Downton Abbey is one of the best shows to come around in a very long time. If you had people voting on which soap was better ..Dallas or Downton Abbey which one would win.? AMC was a classy soap. If it becomes trashy, no one is going to watch. People say that sex is natural and part of life so we should all just accept it and enjoy the love shared between these two people. Well, going potty is natural and we all do it but I don’t want to watch that either!

    SZima replied

    I’m with you Kathy…I FF the sex scenes too. If it would make you embarrassed to watch these scenes with your (grand)mother or your 14-year old daughter or son, then it’s too graphic.
    We were given imaginations for a reason. Too many young people today haven’t developed their imagination because everything is “out there” for all to see. I much prefer scenes where the sex is implied, but not shown.

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  15. OLTLFANBRUCE says:

    Im so excited and ready to see these shows!!

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  16. su0000 says:

    In the world, not just our homes, sex is a driving force; we love it !!
    Sex is a big part of being human..
    Sex issues are cause for divorce, easily ..
    I’d say 90% of the adult world think about some form of sex everyday..
    Anyways, I’m cool with the sex/making love stuff .. It’s a beautiful happening.
    My grandma would freak but my sisters and friends would enjoy :)

    (perhaps a closed or open mind and age will have much to do with opinions )

    Anyways, I do not believe that AMC and OLTL will be turned into a soap orgy LOL..

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  17. Tali(not Smith) says:

    I’m all for the love and passion, but more graphic sex would be kind of a turn off. Only because, having these characters in our homes every day, growing up and in some cases growing old with them…well it’s kind of like family. And who wants to watch their family having graphic sex?

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  18. Patrick says:

    the one thing that comes to mind for the Veterans… our beloved STARS.

    this new format…. will re-ignite the actors passion….

    give them a new edge to break bread….

    the seasoned vets have more to chew on… and formulate in a whole new arena… if you will….

    I’m hoping this stimulates the senses and catapults Serials.

    whatever it takes for these shows to fly.

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  19. Patrick says:

    “This is probably because we are a country based on a puritan ethos that doesn’t really want to admit, we ALL LIKE SEX.”

    I’ll shout it from the mountain tops….

    it’s with this weapon that layers and rules, and “indencency” was forbidden…. and so on, and so on…

    Passion is sensory gland that’s a part of us…. etc….

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    Taboo topics…. socially relevent… ideals… are forthcoming…. nuAMC and nuOLTL… are helping us along.

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    I applaud this medium for helping give light to the LGBT community… and sharing that we’re not so far apart: that historically … we were beset with “programming” that “indoctrinated” what we all “should” feel… puritan ethos set us back.

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  20. Patrick says:

    sex or violence…..

    violence or sex….

    which one is more appalling…… For ME… VIOLENCE.

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  21. Johnny says:

    I am not 30, and I’m not 90 either. I don’t think I’m a prude, but I don’t see where seeing
    a bare bottom or a topless character is necessary ~ we never saw those things before, and most of us can use our imagination. I would advise the writers and producers to proceed with caution, soap lovers don’t want smut, they want good storylines performed by very capable actors, not just eye candy. As for stronger language, well, if they are showing some low life character like a Billy Clyde type, I guess that’s one way of setting them apart from the “good guys”. But, I don’t think most of us want to hear four letter words emmanting from Tad, Dixie, Angie or Bianca – and when and if Erika Kane returns to Pine Valley, we all know she can be a real pain but she’s always been a pain with a certain degree of class so I don’t expect to hear her spew a dialogue of foul language. This is just my take on it, I’m not trying to say we all feel this way, but I bet I’m in the majority.

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    Mitchell1660 replied

    Soaps are evolving. Don’t you think “Tad”, “Dixie”, “Angie” and “Bianca” the actors use strong language in real life? Why not on TV? They’re not porcelain dolls, for god’s sake! They’re human beings, and human beings cuss once in a while. I say, bring it on!

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    Johnny replied

    I don’t think they’re Porcelain dolls but if I want to hear horrendous language I could always take a drive downtown and roll down my window.
    I am not saying that the characters would not curse during a heated argument but there are limits, and I’m sure some of the actors feel the
    same way, just as we all feel differently about it. Soaps are a Unique art form, and I understand there are various levels of artistic expression, but I almost see the characters as extended family, and I don’t need to see them naked and swearing.

    SZima replied

    Thank you Johnny! :)

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    Alisa replied

    I agree you are in the majority. I watch soaps for the story lines. The nudity and language would cause me to tune out.

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  22. Scott (ATWT Fan) says:

    LOVING IT. I think throwing around F-Bombs is not a bad thing, and if the actors agree to have more intimate sex scenes, go for it. Soaps evolve.

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  23. Will says:

    Brava! Well said Cady!

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  24. Rob says:

    I have no problems as long as its character driven storytelling and they get away from clunky plots that make no sense.

    A little nudity and some f-bombs are ok in moderation, not if they distract from story.

    AMC looks like they are diving full force with all these young actors and recasts, I hope its not too much because it would be silly to alienate the people who made this possiblem, the fans.

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  25. Tali (not Smith) says:

    Soaps are like family. We don’t want to see our family members…Members.

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  26. jim says:

    Explicit sex and foul language. Its strange how a few posters defend the possible use of the ‘F’ word on soaps saying such things that its common and even young children use it ect. like its ok but then why not spell it on the post if its all right. If children use it anyway then why not put all foul words in school books and allow teachers to define their meanings and use them on spelling tests? Dont you just hate it when you use a public bathroom and see a mispelled curse word on the walls(im being sarcastic) If there is nothing wrong with the human body would you buy playboy if it featured an overweight women or a woman in her sixties? Same if its a man? Would u look no matter age, size or how they look? I doubt some of you would. So if there is nothing wrong with foul words spell them out in your next posting. If there is nothing wrong with the human body then lets view all willing actors 18 to 98 to be showed partially undressed and in sex scenes. Everyone gets naked and have sex so lets be real and show its not just limited to 18 to 35 year olds. Write to Hollywood or whoever telling them its ok to use curse words, sex and nudity because everyone including children cuss and are having sex so the rating system is unneccessary. Call your schools and tell them its okay for teachers to use foul words because your children are going to learn them anyway.

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  27. Marsha says:

    Gratuitous sex is boring. If the romance leads to sex that’s one thing, but to have sex just because you can is another story all together. Remember all those old b&w movies where much was left to our imagination? What’s wrong with those ideas? That being said, daytime tv has always been more progressive than prime time shows. Maybe this is PP way of getting back to those progressive ways.

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  28. dg says:

    I am thrilled at the majority of the comments on this topic. They prove that with most viewers Cady’s views are far off base. We don’t want softcover porn. We want good stories. Enough sleaze and exploitation. Give us intelligent stories and romance.

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    Alisa replied

    Totally agree with your statement.

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  29. rob says:

    I think this would be a great idea, soaps r all about life. Cussing and sex are apart of life.

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  30. carla rodrigueez says:

    No need to show more skin. The storylines are what counts. Romance drama and suspense is why we are soapfans. Stick with what works.

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  31. jim says:

    You know whats ashame? Here comes back what is probably our last chance to relive two of our most beloved soaps that we all were originally ecstatic to see return and now we have to argue about it,including me, over what will possibly be in its content and now we r divided. Some of us feel its unecessary to add certain foul words and brief nudity, and some others want it. Now some of us our old fashion prudes in need of holy water and a rosary for praying because we dont want bad words and nudity in fear we might go to HELL, and some of the others who do approve of it act like naughty school children dieing for their first glimpse of nudity, and a chance to hear someone talk dirty. I like how some exploit the freedom of speech and freedom of expression to suit their beliefs. Anyway , we r not just hurting each other we are also hurting the shows we all wanted to return. B4 the possible curse words and brief nudity the only harmless disagreement was casting but now the current disagreement is over content and it looks like these two shows will be loosing many viewers b4 the show starts. Everything would have been better for all of us hadnt any of this been included no matter how little they plan to use it. Had it not been included in part of the shows reboot everyone would be happy to see two of our favorite shows return. Now many arent. So is adding even a little nudity and curse words worth the risk of hurting the show knowing some wont b tuning in? You were all happy b4 knowing the shows were returning without the added racey content. So why is it needed now?

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    Christine replied

    I think the problem, jim, is that they are spending too much time talking about what they are going to do and try and get away with instead of just showing that they are coming back and let the viewers see for themselves. Like you said, they are driving away the old fans before they hit the air.

    That is the problem with Facebook, Twitter, etc., these days. Talk, talk, talk. I understand they want and need to promote their shows, but alienating people this way is sad. I betcha there are quite a few that will not watch because of this topic these last few days and I am sure just as many were turned off by the sexy photoshoot as those that might now tune in because of it. It is too bad that they can’t just say they have some exciting stories and sets and leave it at that instead of getting people all riled up over nudity and curse words. Then there is the other camp who are not going to be happy about ANYTHING if it does not resemble an exact copy of what AMC and OLTL once were … and that is just not going to happen … ever again.

    I am not an idiot. I knew when they were going online that it meant nudity and curse words. That is what happens to network shows that are picked up by cable. But some people are thinking this is going to get out of hand. I think if the writers are worth their salt, then they know how far to take it.

    After watching LIFE OF PI and explaining to my husband what stuck in my head most about that movie the next day, he reminded me that our own imaginations are more powerful than what we see on the screen. I won’t spoil it for those who have not seen the movie, but those of you who have probably know what I am talking about. Basically what I am saying is that there was a gruesome story in the movie that was narrated, but you did not see it on the screen whereas there were several frightening scenes that were depicted, but none of those stuck with me like the one my own brain was thinking about … all day the next day.

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    jim replied

    Its ashame people dont use their imagination anymore. Look at Gone With The Wind. One of the most romantic things in that movie is when Rhett swept up Scarlett and carried her up those stairs. What happened next was obviuos to us and it didnt have to be shown. This was shown way back in 1939 and its still one of the top movie favorites still watched today. If people like that do much and can use their imagination, why cant they do it with anything else. Thanks 4 the reply Christine. Yours is one of my favorites.

    Patrick replied

    i suppose… alienating…. is subject to appealing to the majority? what the puritans relied on….

    that the transmission of thought has reached the masses… and therefore.. we have to acknowledge all sects…. ?

    thank you…. Voices are heard and acknowledged… and to the detriment of?

    I happily adovcate that stimuli, whether we share in… lessens the pie in control.

    the democratic process is not broken and gone unnoticed.. by those who reach… with abandon….

    i’m sensitive to receptors that feel… unyielding.

    paths are travelled that have meaning and purpose.

    hence… the human “being” shares.

    Christine replied

    Thanks, jim. I really like your posts too. I enjoy reading well-thought out comments and I agree with what you say. It seems like the majority feels the same way too. Hopefully the writers/producers will take heed and keep their new “liberties” to a minimum. :-)

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    Barbara t loves One life to live replied

    Well said Jim, I agree with you.

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    Patrick replied

    Jim and Christine -

    I appreciate that there are people on here… who keep the lines of communication… open-ended…

    dialogue about subject matter that is finding open doors, if you will… ie: homophobia and homosexuality… is foreign… and watching sexuality on tv… is at best… stirring the stimuli….

    posting that this is becoming commonplace? ie: as Cady McClain shared…. our genre is presenting layers more revealing… ie: language and “naked” …

    I can certainly understand how this genre is shared with the generations without duress, in the past…. your grandparents, your parents and your kids… could all equally share this experience.

    Testing the boundaries of new ideals versus the format that the majority found appeasing…. ???

    I want that… what Cady is sharing… helps lessen the value of pin pointing race, sexuality, bullying, violence… that we’re keeping up with all the mediums… and committing ourselves to be relevent, caring, and helping us all understand social ideals and mores that aren’t ignored and embraced by all.

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    Food for thought.

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    Johnny replied

    Jim, it’s just a discussion. We’re all happy the show is being worked on, this is just a chance to voice opinions. I respect other points of view, believe me – I think it will be interesting to see the changes, it’s not “abc’s all my children” anymore. However, I think explicit language has it’s place, I don’t personally think the Soaps are that place to express it – THAT IS JUST my personal take on it. As far as nudity goes, I’m not going to fall over and collapse if a female character drops a towel, I just honestly, sincerely feel it is not necessary.

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    jim replied

    I agree, and i know its a message board for discussion. I was trying to point out that some people on here dont have to go so far as name calling or telling some people ‘good riddance’ because theyve decided not to watch when they were only expressing there opinions. i even omitted to doing it myself and realize its wrong. Its not convining people to change their mind its pushing people further away . Some want to watch. Some dont want to watch. Lets us express our opinions y and let us reply with agreement or reply with disgreement. Thats what these message boards are for. And like i said name calling isnt getting us anywhere and its rude. As 4 the curse words or any partial nudity Im no prude. Ive watched shows with some racey content b4. But i dont feel its needed. Why do soaps need it just because its 2013 and other shows on cable ect. are using it. Thats not being different or being revelent. Its just being the same and it doesnt improve anything. Sending a message does. When the Guiding light had Bert Bauer get a pap smear many women wrote in thanked the show because they went out and got one and it saved their life. Recent gay stories hope to teach acceptance and show they r no different than you and me. Now if all soaps used more variety of ethnic characters could help teach people to respect different races. Same for people with different religous beliefs including atheism. Thats whats revelent and groundbreaking when a serial or any show can reach out and get a positive message out their. Nudity and curse words cant do that.

    Patrick replied

    I get long winded at times….

    it’s how strongly i feel…

    Point: if furthering the “restrictions” on language and clothing optional… elevates acceptance… of all social beings…. then that’s what I hope for.

    LGBT “tolerance” should be an afterthought… and is not in your face… debated,

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    ie: Lucas on Days of our lives… attends PFLAG… how wonderful and beautiful that we share that….

    Parents and Friends of Lesbian and Gay.

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    if this is off the topic… i simply mean… that it’s accepting all storylines…. without bashing and bullying…. and lessens the “forbidden” if all sects are in line with and a no holds barred approach is well written, and shared.

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  32. Dave says:

    sex has been around for a long time. for every person on earth, two people had to have sex. for something soooo taboo, there is a lot of it going on.
    keep it tasteful, informative and an important part of a story line and let life live on…

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  33. Christine says:

    So you want to make your scenes more real by showing more skin? How about making your scenes more real by showing what people really look like when they wake up in the morning instead of looking fresh as a daisy with all that makeup and not a hair out of place? Now THAT would be groundbreaking and more realistic.

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    Johnny replied

    Yeah that WOULD be more realistic wouldn’t it – we always see actresses on the show(s) asleep in bed in FULL make up, no one ever looks bad ~

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  34. Mary SF says:

    Sex is a beautiful thing because it is the means to express and show love in a form that goes beyond words. It is meant to be a moment of surrendering not just your body, but your heart and your soul– to another person whom you are connected to in some deep and profound way.

    Soaps were founded on the idea of romance, of wooing the person you love, couples overcoming obstacles to be together, and when they came together, as a viewer you you could invest your own desires, fantasies, and longings via the fictional couple on the screen because you had time to become emotional invested in them. But what emotional investment do I have in couple who barely know each other and end up in bed to have sex for sex sake, which happens more and more on soaps today.

    Perhaps the older generation understood there is nothing wrong with using your imagination sometimes. In the past, when the hero swept the heroine in his arms and took her to bedroom- everyone knew what was going to happen- you could play out that scene in your own mind, which is part of lure of real romance stories- allowing the reader or the viewer to put themselves into the story at some point- but when all the work is done for you, what fun is that- it puts the viewer into role of peeping tom instead of participant, because in the mystery of not seeing, I could fill in the blanks myself.

    And somewhere along the lines those writing and producing television have forgotten that.

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  35. Tania says:

    Can’t wait to see Brooke bouncing into bed about to boink Adam and realizing it is Stuart!!! Wonder if they are identical in every way?

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  36. Justin says:

    Wow. She didn’t say it would become a porn…just expect some more skin and words you might hear in a movie or call your loved one when they piss you off.

    I agree with one view that they do become like family and we don’t want to see their members…but we do want them to love and be loved.

    Keep in mind… it’s only a 30 minute show and you all know most of us only last about 5 minutes anyway!

    I’m exhausted just writing this…

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    Christine replied

    “… or call your loved one when they piss you off.”

    That is one thing I swore I would never do. I may have a temper and get verbally angry at my husband or kids when the situation warrants, but I never call them curse words or names. I think that crosses the line and no matter how many times you apologize, it is always there. I know because over 10 years ago my brother called me a name when he was mad at me and I will never forget it.

    I know some families are different, but I think you lose respect for yourself and your family and friends when you sink to that level.

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    Mary SF replied

    People forget that words have an energy and a power to them- words can bring healing, words can make you smile, but words can also harm. Cursing affects those who use it and those who hear it because let us face it, most use curse words in anger- the word is mean to hurt someone- it is not just a harmless slip of the tongue.

    Cursing is nothing more than verbal violence- and the more it is done the more abusive it can be. It may be realistic, but I think we like to watch our shows to be entertained not to have our ears and minds assaulted with language that not too long ago was socially unacceptable for good reason.

    I also like to see the soaps stop having women call other women on the shows b**t*hes and sl*ts in arguments- come on writers give the ladies some class- there are other insults one can use that get the point across without degrading the characters.

    Delainey J replied

    Like you, my brother called me a name; thought c*nt meant b*tch and called me it years ago — I haven’t forgetten it either, nor have I received a formal apology because well…it’s the trendy word of the moment, and it was just oops for him.

    I fear the writers thinking potent words will make scenes more hurtful like this. Far more intelligent ways to bring people into a fight and resolve it.

  37. Patrick says:

    All soap opera CASTS are 100% good looking…. easy on the eyes…. EYE CANDY.

    wouldn’t that pretty much sum up the leave it up to the imagination?

    Smut, Kink, Porn… LOL… is what’s in order…. (?)

    Ms. Anges Nixon: are you their?

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    A panel of puritans must be lying in wait… relishing the chance to grandstand…

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  38. Patrick says:

    I will say… in deference to the original concept of Serials….

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    and, i don’t even know that this is possible any more…. as the writers of ole’ are long gone.

    geez the writings teams are replaced just as fast as the cast.

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    I don’t even want to use the “new” ideals… or conceptualize that we’re in a new era… the 21st century if you will… and it’s either step up to the plate and be a part of or… waste in what was….

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    LOL.

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    I’ll show my ankles and will not avert my longings….

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  39. Patrick says:

    I am thrilled that most viewers. remember what life was like… for us… in the same age range…

    it’s presumptuous… taking it upon oneself to advocate that all is what it once was…

    is irrelevant.

    far be it for me to stand in the way of the majority.

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  40. mo says:

    Sometimes there is such a thing as too much. I also do think age has to be thought about. Would I want to see Days’ Victor shirtless? No. But I did enjoy seeing Cameron shirtless yesterday.

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  41. Christine says:

    It is obvious from being on this board for over a year now that there are many men who are fans of these shows. I have not heard this topic yet so I am going to mention it and, please forgive me, I am going to try and be as politically correct as I can and not offend anyone.

    I am wondering what the male viewers think of love scenes between two men on their soaps and what women think of love scenes between two women. Or what about a menage a trois?

    I am thinking that the resurrected soaps might go there and try it. I know there has always been a lot of backlash whenever the network soaps tried to make gay couples, but with the popularity of the couple on GUIDING LIGHT, it has become somewhat acceptable, though there are still many many people that get turned off.

    I was going to say more, but I could not say it the way I wanted to without going off base, so I am just curious to read what others think of the possibility of this.

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    Mary SF replied

    For the most part story line on soaps are determined by what kind of viewer the show wants to attract for their sponsors. As we know on major networks in the States the majority of sponsors of daytime dramas are soap companies, hence the name soaps. These companies want to target women in their child bearing years who for the most part are married and making the buying decision about diapers, cleaning products, soap products and the like for their families. Therefore story line will revolved around what these woman related to, with are- relationships, love, sex, family with the occasional murder mystery thrown in.

    For the longest time the majority of viewers have been white, heterosexual women but as society changes, as the ideas about family changes, these companies will be force to view potential new markets and hence story line will change to attract those new markets to the screen. So over time I am sure the kind of relationships we will see on soaps will change to include groups that were not represented well before- such as different ethnic groups, homosexuals, bisexuals, transgender and those into the kinkier side of sex.

    But in the end marketing matters most even on the internet and if these story lines causes them to lose eyeballs for their sponsors producers will either need to find a different kind of sponsor or go back to wooing the traditional young, heterosexual white female, who may be more enlighten than your grandmother was on certain topics, will for the most part still want to see stories that she can related to personally.

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  42. Delainey J says:

    When these shows will compete with primetime shows (ie do I come home from work and watch my primetime shows on cable or break out my laptop to catch up on my soap) I think my primetime cable shows will win over smut-ridden curse worded dialogue. Why? I think sex is great, but in private. (And- I love Hilary B Smith’s legs. Love them! She’s always portrayed Nora as classy, though.)

    BUT, I have always felt, however, in television it’s lazy writing. But I get it…in a 50 Shades of Grey era, teach your women to let it hang out, have kinky-controlling, let your inhibitions go – SEX, I still think the writing and material is degrading to the viewer and actor. It just isn’t progressive.

    The most memorable storylines were not how greased up Brad Pitt’s bum was in Troy, or how many times the F-bomb was dropped in Good Will Hunting – it was the heart and soul of the characters and their relationships.

    I saw Thom Racina’s “I’m Drunk,” video and it’s disgusting this man even has a job; let alone boasts about how he’s going to use (abuse) the internet. I think, at some point, this is why many people wanted to start censoring the internet. All I can think of is my kids getting a free hulu account in order to watch what mom watches. Then, having to explain myself…or just opt out of watching because I stand for something as a mother and a woman. Maybe I wish for my girls to be true feminists, as I would like to be. Where there is an equality — but not based on how many knotches I can get in my belt in order to keep up with the male species. It’s not just cheap, shocking entertainment, anymore – you become desensitized to it before long, and grow tired of it, as I have…and the sex scenes weren’t that bad on ABC!

    Let me ask Cady — Is it empowering for a woman to have sex? Is there no other way for a woman to be watchable on television – unless she’s undressing herself? Do I want my girls to think as long as I’m a back, a tit, a thigh showing – I’m beautiful and f’ing (for dramatic effect) worthy? Of course! Because I’m sustaining that American model of what it is to be a woman.

    Does it mean she’s a strong individual living off her impulses, instead of (her character) making wise gut-wrenching decisions? Does it mean you’re getting intelligently written matieral? If she answers yes — then she belongs…as anyone should when trying to just keep her job.

    Thom Racina is just another patriachal Brian Frons…and every woman who enables this sort of writing is truly subordinating herself, acting as if this sort of portrayal is freeing for women and men.

    Is this what Prospect Park wants his Online Network to stand for to international viewers – showing the world – this is all Americans are on television?

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    Christine replied

    I am glad someone else thought that Racina’s video was bad. I don’t understand why people drink and then post videos. Too many drink in the workplace as it is these days and NO good comes of it.

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    Alisa replied

    Well said!

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    Derek replied

    How can you judge something that hasn’t even been on yet? u have no idea how far they’ll go.

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    Delainey J replied

    One thing I loved was the tradition of growing up watching with my mom, and doing that with my mom and my own kids. I could not watch the shows with either prior to cancelation. Thus, because of what I saw prior to the cancelations; now they want to give me more of what I had to turn off.

    Maybe I’m an educated viewer, but that’s just basic logic.

  43. janet says:

    Don’t they have porn channels for this?
    I already have to DVR GH when my grandchildren 4 and 6 are here, The swearing is sick. Actual sex belongs in the bedroom behind closed doors. WTH is wrong with her. I don’t care what people do in their private homes. I certainly don’t want to watch it.
    Guess things like this are the reasons soap s are losing viewers, who wants their kids sitting in a room watching this?
    We all most anyway, started watching soaps because our families did. they watched together, they discussed the show. No thanks. If I want x ratings, I will choose it, and make sure the young people in my house are not there.
    WTH is Caddy thinking? No job to much time on her hands. I never liked her character on any show I watched she was on ,but this is dumb.
    This is certainly NOT the way to get new people to watch. Plus a also hate the violence and blood and guts. No entertainment there for me !

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