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116 April 5th, 2015 Anthony Geary Shares How He’s Glad FLUKE Didn’t Turn Out To Be Bill Eckert!

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Daytime veteran Anthony Geary (Luke Spencer) once again blew viewers away this past week when General Hospital finally revealed what caused Luke’s break from reality making him into the heinous Fluke! Luke had killed both his parents with a baseball bat, one intentionally and the other accidentally!

TV Guide Magazine’s Michael Logan chatted it up with the seven-time Daytime Emmy winner, who stands to be the favorite to rack up his eighth and ninth this year and next, to get his thoughts on how this long and complex storyline finally came to its resolution during the April 1st 52nd anniversary episode of General Hospital which featured an entire show on Luke’s harrowing family back-story!

For months, viewers believed that Fluke would turn out to be Luke’s cousin Bill Eckert.  According to Geary that was the original plan and then things changed!Geary related: “Yes. That was the case when I was first told the story by Ron (Carlivati) and (executive producer)  Frank Valentini on the phone. They didn’t quite know how it was going to work out. At first, I was definitely playing two different people, and the assumption was that Fluke was Bill Eckert. But I think when the fans started to guess that outcome—Ron monitors all of the comments so closely—they decided there was a better way to go.”

The iconic star then related how the story evolved for Luke to actually having his dark side emerge and do all of the heinous things to the people of Port Charles:  “I was away from the show for several months, after my back surgery, and I assumed that when I got back we’d pick up with the Bill Eckert (reveal), especially after they dug up his grave and it was empty. But, by then, they had decided on a different plan. When I was called to Frank’s office, he told me that this other personality had been Luke all the time, and I cheered! Not only did I love the idea but it meant that people like Tracy weren’t being stupid. I mean, wouldn’t she have known if she’d gone to bed with someone other than Luke? That was always bothering me but Jane’s just so amazing.  She’s, like, ‘All right, we’re on the Titanic. I’m just going to play this the best I can and f–k the lifeboats!’ And she did. She managed to keep her character smart through the dumbest of actions but, thanks to this reveal, Fluke being Luke totally justifies Tracy’s behavior. It really fixes a lot of things in retrospect. I’ve been racking my brain and can’t think of a single thing that this doesn’t explain.”

So GH fans, what did you think of the resolution and explanation of Fluke actually being Luke? Was this more surprising to you than any of the alternatives and red-herrings along the way?  Comment below!

 

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  1. Julie Haze says:

    Thankfully, it’s over. Moving on….

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    Kalle replied

    YES YES YES!!!

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    Leo replied

    I am a 23-year viewer of this show and have been tuning out every single day, every single week for a good two or three months.

    Is it safe to go back and watch?!?

    su0000 replied

    You missed a lot, Leo..
    Michel becoming a Quartermain.. Sonny losing his baby to his son.. Ava suffering with cancer.. Morgan and Kiki plotting against Michael..Patrick and Sam all lovoy.. Jake finding himself and working undercover.. Nina and Franco getting out and on.. Anna and Sloane are hot.. Jordan in is in great danger..Maxie and Spinelli are get it back..Nicholes is going to take over ELQ..Spenser was burned/his face.. and on and on there were many other stories besides Lukes..
    GH was not only the Luke story, ya know :)

    Rebecca1 replied

    lol…good lil summary, Su!

  2. The Substitute says:

    My biggest question is now where do you go from here? Is TG going to hang up his Spurs ? As for changing the course of the storyline RC is not the first head writer to do so.

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Maybe if TG does leave the show for good, tney will reveal he was Bill Echart after all just too please those who were disappointed he wasnt Bill on the April 1st special???

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    Wayne R Harrison replied

    I don,t think so,as talented and as Brilliant of an actor,we are talking the Robert Deniro and the Al Pacino of Soaps here,Tony Geary is ,Ron Carlivati and Frank Valenti are going to find way more storylines for him to be the forefront in,I,mean look at how many daytime emmys this man has racked up already,so the next one that he wins ,it,ll be like ehhhh who cares,Tony,s just that good

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  3. Jimh(leave it to beaver) says:

    It didnt matter to me if he wasnt or was Bill…several of us figured it out many moons ago he was Luke all this time…i did think Bill was going to be his twin brother while watching the episode and was the one who killed the Spensers parents after confronting them for giving him away and then framed Luke for the crime and thats how Bill got ownership of the house…Luke had blocked out knowing Bill since the 60s and not the 90s blah, blah, blah…LW was so convincing and barely recognizable as the mother i almost didnt know it was her…she should be nominated for an emmy next year just for that one episode…the entire cast was great and i liked how the nurses and doctors actually looked like nurses and doctors…i know im one who will gripe about newbies but the actors playing young Luke and Patricia should be brought back—they were good…maybe as new generation of the Eckart clan???

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    My only gripe about the episode is that too much of the house was intact after the explosion and Tims remains shouldve been found afterwards…there shouldve been cracks in the wall and window glass shattered and the windows boarded up…other than that i really enjoyed the episode!!!

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    Timmm replied

    Most of the impact from the explosion was absorbed by the empty space in Dante’s head!

    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    As for complaints on this message board…i like to see fans opinions on both sides of any subject…their likes and dislikes…i see no harm in having an opinion if i like them or not…this isnt a perfect world and no one is going to agree on everything…sorry, its just the way of the world…like i told one of my favorite posters Timmm…watching soaps is like going to a fine resturuant…if im served something i dont like and the waitress asks how it was, i will give my honest opinion and tell her i didnt like it and why…do i stop going there because i didnt like something…NO…because as long as there is something else i still like on the menu i will go back…same with everything else including GH…i will give my honest opinion if i dont like something but as long as there is something i still like, ill come back and continue to watch GH!!! Enough said!!!

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    Patrick replied

    i didn’t think… that, Laura Wright… portraying… Luke Mother… Selena… added any credibility… to my take of “convoluted”

    I’m glad it’s over

    there were two scenes that took me

    1. when : Luke, Bobbi, Patricia, and their counterparts were filmed together, scene faded… ie: in front of the fireplace… ie: Luke and his younger self… etc

    2. when : Luke acknowledged Bobbi’ daughter, Carly.. and told her… You look so much like our mother

    Harry replied

    Yes, Jim–diversity is good for us!
    Timm, that made me really laugh aloud.

    shrona replied

    Well said, Jimh! Your theory is why so many of us DVR the show so we can fast forward through what we don’t like (for me, commercials and ‘Francarly’- ick!). I did love the 4/1 show and thought the flashbacks were well-done. I was unsure about the ‘recasts’ (Patrick as Steve, Liz as Jessie, Lucas as Phil) but since the characters were interacting with the Spencers it made perfect sense! I really, really liked young ‘Luke’ and hope to see him again!

  4. AJQ says:

    As I have stated before, this has just been a mess. The story was written, produced, acted and directed for months in a way that presented Fluke as a different person, Bill Eckert, and if not Bill E, still a different person. That is what was given to us and that is what we took from it. To so radically change it after so many hours of story that appeared before our eyes has rendered this a complete mess. Going back to try and reconfigure all that we actually saw and heard to fit the current story of Luke’s psychotic breakdown will just not work, it can’t.

    The scenes in Miscavige in particular cannot be wiped from memory. The scenes were presented to the audience as two people. Even the second time we were there, we, the audience, were outside the room with the orderly and entered with him. Later, as Luke tried to escape, we were once again outside the room with Fluke as he grabbed the door handle. Same POV. Direction matters. POV matters. What you show the audience visually matters. You can’t take that back.

    But let’s not forget that there were many seeming inconsistencies and head scratching moments during the first few months of the story before they changed it. Many of us said even back then that it seemed that they were making it up as they went along. So guess what, according to TG, we were right, they were. He says that “They didn’t quite know how it was going to work out. At first, I was definitely playing two different people, and the assumption was that Fluke was Bill Eckert.”

    And yes TG is a wonderful actor, so let’s not discount his huge talent. He was playing two different people. He was playing Fluke as a different person, not Luke with a psychotic break and we understood that. He did his job and masterfully. Had he been playing Luke with a personality disorder from the beginning, he would have played it differently and given us some clues through his performance.

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    Timmm replied

    AJQ, rewrites happen everyday in Hollywood. I dont mind what they did. Like AG said, once the show found out the fans were on to them, they changed it up. I think its cool that they watch what fans say on this site and on Twitter. Last thing, I’m willing to bet a lot of stories are written off the cuff. It would be tough to write one fourteen month story from beginning to end without making amendments.

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Reply here…that was funny about Dante in your reply to me…gave me a laugh…thanks!!!

    AJQ replied

    Timmm, I understand that rewrites happen, that isn’t the point here. The point is that the rewrite undermines what we saw on screen for months and contradicts what was an already convoluted narrative. If you are going to rewrite something and change a story it has to fit. Yes rewrites happen everyday in Hollywood, scripts are doctored endlessly, before production and if there are changes during, again, they need to fit and make sense, they can’t undermine what has already been shot and ultimately presented to the audience.

    Fluke was a separate person with a huge vendetta against Sonny. Had they changed it to some person other than Bill E, but still kept Fluke a different person, it would have been easier to make it fit with the months of story we saw play out with our own eyes, like the scenes at Miscavige. Had they just gone the Luke had a twin he never knew, the old, tired and overused evil twin route, it would have at least been a different person, although the Sonny angle would still be hard.

    But how about Bill Eckert having a twin brother? He wanted revenge for his brother’s death. He felt Luke was responsible for bringing his problems to Bill’s door and he died because of him. He was after Sonny because he now controlled Frank Smith’s territory and Smith was responsible for Bill’s death; maybe even it turns out that Sonny, trying to prove his worth to Frank, was given the assignment of killing Luke and he was the shooter that gunned down Bill. There’s motive to go after Sonny personally as well and in all that, no need for any plastic surgery or mask stuff and it wouldn’t have been Bill Eckert.

    Personally, I don’t think it’s cool they changed because they think fans guessed it was Bill Eckert. How in the world could they not think going in that in the GH world of people constantly coming back from the dead that Luke’s look alike cousin would not be an option for people? And if you read interviews with the great soap writers and producers like Monty and Marland, they have said that major storylines were planned out way in advance, there was always room for some changes of course, but the main story, who the villain was, what their motivation was, how it would effect the other characters, etc was well thought out, planned and executed. Writing a story as big and complex as Fluke, off the cuff as you say, was a recipe for disaster and that’s what they got.

    CeeCee replied

    Most of the impact was absorbed by the empty space in Dante’s head? Hahaha…. Please stop…I can’t take it… It’s midnight and I’m laughing to myself like an idiot.

    Jamesj75 replied

    AJQ, thanks for reminding us of these details, particularly about there being two separate people on screen for the audience to see. Many viewers, myself included, felt that the writers had no end game and were making it up as they went along, even changing their story mid-stream, as you also point out. “Mess” is indeed the word.

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    CeeCee replied

    Absolutely, James. However many pooh pooh on those of us who share those sentiments. We are referred to as haters, or sadly dissatisfied with our lives. We should actually find a hobby……we whine too much just because we have a functioning brain , with opinions.

    Rebecca1 replied

    AJQ…a mess, in this case is subjective. You’ve stated quite elegantly and several different times that the story didn’t work for you. There are a number of people who agree with you…at least on this site. But there are others, like myself, who didn’t perceive it as a mess. I was caught up in the acting all along the way, I was curious about how it would pan out, and though I too grew impatient and wanted the story to wrap…I still think it was a wild ride of a storyline…twisted turns and all. Ultimately, we got a deeper story than the usual fluff. We got to go on an emotional journey with a character that many have watched decades…and the dysfunction that was always Luke, and Bobby too…from crime and prostitution, broken home, to a back story that, if one allows it, explains a lot of Luke’s behavior Evan back to attacking Laura. I think it’s plausible that someone carrying such repressed rage and guilt for so many years would become the Luke we always knew…and explains cause and effect.

    Ron and company weave stories. They may just find a way to connect all the dots that didn’t make sense to you and others…we shall see. If not, for myself and others I guess we are able to take all the different episodes and tuck them away, just satisfied with how it played out and the poignant look at a broken man, his broken family and a story that started with a hateful, repulsive human being and ended with a vulnerable, humbled man breaking free of the secret that tortured him most of his life.

    Jamesj75 replied

    CeeCee, thanks!

    Rebecca, you make good points, as do others.

    Elizabeth, I totally understand where you are coming from, as I have given up more than once. I only tuned into the special 52nd anniversary show after having checked out for months.

    Yet to some of the GH apologists who always wear rose-colored glasses, when some of us criticize the show, whether it be the writing or certain characters, it’s not simply a matter of “Complainers are not pleasant peoples.” It’s a matter of being a fan who is astute enough to see certain areas where things are not working and wishing that changes are made so that our formerly outstanding show returns to its glory!

    I can love myself and my family but realize that we all have faults. It’s okay to be analytical and be able to see the good qualities as well as the bad qualities in people, events, TV shows, etc.

    Mr. Fairman seems to be well connected. Maybe some people in positions of power at the soaps read the message boards here and get some grasp of what the fans are thinking/saying. In other recent threads, people are stating that the far-advanced taping schedule of DOOL is hindering its success as they are unable to change course in certain storylines as quickly as they should.

    The producers/writers should expect feedback, positive as well as negative. But if an astute viewer is annoyed with sloppy writing (which rewrites history and flies in the face of continuity) and decides to write a “complaining rant” at this site, more power to him/her. Sometimes, just sometimes, the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes.

    Lin replied

    I totally agree.

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    Elizabeth replied

    Having heard that Fluke was Luke, and that the resolution of this disastrous storyline would entail retconning Luke’s entire 30 year history of the show I chose not to watch it and to simply quit watching the show period. Who does something like that. So what if it “tied uo loose strings in past stories”… it did so by changing pretty much every substantial element of history possible – starting by changing Luke’s and Bobbie’s ages and ending with changing who Luke has been for the last thirty years.
    For me, it has been the last straw. Now if I want to see GH I go to youtube and watch for characters and stories that I wasn’t able to watch the first time around. SO much better than the sick joke that is broadcast today.

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    su0000 replied

    Spap stories and their ending are apt to change at anytime..
    Nothing is in stone..
    …Writers change their plots and endings often..
    I dont care care how it is done as long as I’m entertained..
    The story and the 52nd was extraordinary,, and I dont give a hotdamn how it came it be, it was awesome.. I had no problem following along/I do not overthink I just go what is written, the story as is written was great!..
    To write huge rambling complaining rants is not my thing, Complainers are not pleasant peoples, Mother told me that… I just say it as it is :) GH rocks!!

    Soaps are not creed, they are not a holy occurrence,, just entertainment :)
    enjoy!! the moment!

    Elizabeth replied

    If soaps are to be “enjoyed in the moment” then why bother to continue the story at all? Why not just take the easy way out of having skits that begin and end in a couple days’ time? History is history whether it is in stone or on youtube. Good soap writers adhere to that, mediocre writers who can’t stand up to the challenge pretend it doesn’t matter.

    Some people just have lower expectations than others, I get it.

    Harry replied

    I haven’t said much about the great reveal because frankly, I am feeling tired of it all and have given into apathy. I am letting more hearty and more eloquent commentators do my bitching for me (think Tom Sawyer and the whitewashing of the fence). However, I am going to muster up a little energy and say I do take issue with some folks saying that the great reveal finally explains Luke and his motivations. See? I always understood this character and what motivated him because his history was part of his characterization. Long time viewers always understood that Luke and Bobbi were orphaned at a young age and sent to live with their Aunt Ruby who was the madam of a whorehouse and who put a very young Bobby to work as a prostitute and a very young Luke to work as his baby sister’s pimp. It goes without saying that this kind of childhood would have a serious psychological impact on a young man giving way to misogynistic patterns of behavior (see Don Draper). Therefore, the beautiful young Laura is going to ignite conflicted feelings in Luke. On one hand she represents the unattainable, the golden girl who out of his reach. But on the other, she represents what has been denied him and he resents what she represents and he hates himself for wanting her. These complexities of emotions led to Luke raping Laura. And of course with that kind of upbringing, Luke is going to shun marital and domestic bliss.
    My point here is that we never needed Luke explained to us but we did need Fluke explained to us. What has transpired with the great reveal is really a Herculean-like endeavor in damage control. I admit, Ron is good at damage control stories but I maintain that they not create stories which require damage control writing which still leave many holes in it. We didn’t need Luke committing matricide or patricide to validate his actions as it was already apparent with his history. And yes, I do think history has not only been rewritten, it has been profoundly distorted.

    AJQ replied

    Well Harry, maybe it was only a little energy you needed to muster for your post, but you nailed it. Luke Spencer did not need explaining and not from a writer who is 35 years late to the party.

    Worse, he didn’t even set out to explain Luke Spencer, but did that, to save his own mess of a story. The casualty of the writer having no initial plan and no direction for his story, is Lucas Lorenzo Spencer. In order for RC to save his butt, he hung Luke’s out to dry.

    And here is a larger problem. General Hospital is an institution. I believe the longest running drama in television. It is beloved by many. Those who are entrusted with that great institution, should not only be grateful for the opportunity, but should honor that legacy and respect all that came before them. The hard work and dedication of the writers, producers, actors, all who contributed and of course that means the fans too.

    I have seen very little respect from this regime. There were glimpses at the beginning. The shot of Lila and Edward heading up the stairs was poignant, respectful and beautifully done. The 50th anniversary was nostalgic and heartfelt. The narration by Patrick at the end was spot on and moving. But then it all just seemed to go south. Newbie after newbie, hogging air time, being propped, and vets, history and core families thrown to the curb. AJ brought back and killed after a disagreement with the actor and now Duke, who was brought back early on to attract fans, but never properly utilized, will meet his demise for no good reason. It is just a pattern here.

    And now the legacy of Luke Spencer, the original anti hero, the most famous male soap character of all time, has had his history rewritten and as you say, distorted, all in the name of damage control because the writer and the producer, did not have a handle on their jobs and didn’t treat the responsibility they have been entrusted, with the proper care and respect that we all deserved.

    Elizabeth replied

    Exactly AJQ, exactly. Not to mention what this regime did to Laura wiht her return, turning her into a frumpy, insipid school marm. Freakin’ Laura Spencer.
    Just a travesty.

    Harry replied

    I’d like to fram AJQ’s comments. Favorite line–”Worse, he didn’t even set out to explain Luke Spencer, but did that, to save his own mess of a story.”
    This.

  5. randy says:

    maybe im alone in this but this story would have had somuch more impact with genie francis as laura… general hospital when will you realize the heart of luke is LAURA,,,

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    Timmm replied

    Its tough to explain Laura’s absence and like I said about Lucky, he works for ABC, why couldnt he pop in from time to time. His show goes on hiatus next month. Bring back Lucky! Its a head scratcher.

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    I love gh replied

    I actually think the heart of Luke is Tracy. I love Luke & Laura, don’t get me wrong. I just love how Tracy “gets” Luke. She is also very protective of Lulu & has been for years.

    That said, I think the reveal would have been even better with Laura.

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    Jamesj75 replied

    Randy, you are not alone. Genie Francis’ Laura is vital to the storyline and missed by the fans. Sadly, the head honchos don’t seem to care.

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    jaybird369 replied

    James…as always, you are THE VOICE OF REASON!!!!! Thank You, Brother!!!!! N-o-w…a few things here…

    1. To me, B-O-T-H Genie Francis and the character of Laura will ALWAYS BE important and vital to B-O-T-H the storytelling and to GH!!!!! Dude…I wish TIIC of GH would take their you-know-whats out of the beach sand and realize that!!!!!
    2. As far as I’m concerned, those ‘head honchos’ DON’T CARE PERIOD!!!!! Beyond sad.
    3. Most of all, as far as I’m concerned, those ‘head honchos’ only care about one thing…THEMSELVES!!!!!! Beyond ridiculous.

    James…Peace, Bro.

  6. Joe says:

    I was hoping it would be Bill, because I liked Bill back in the day. Would’ve been great to see Tony in a dual role for awhile as two different people simultaneously. Tracy not knowing it wasn’t Luke was my only drawback. But since it really is Luke, I love that Tracy isn’t stupid in the end. I knew Luke killed one of his parents but absolutely surprised he killed both. I do wish Dee Wallace stuck around longer. There was too much talk of the absent Patricia only to kill her off after three episodes. The Spencer siblings reunited was touching, as well as Luke’s emotional scene with Carly, commenting on her resemblance to her grandmother. This story dragged out too long, but very worth it in the end. Tony Geary really is the best! Love that man. Bravo.

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    Lin replied

    I didn’t think it was likely that Bill was such a letch and so evil, but everything else fit, except Tracey not knowing who she was sleeping with. However, it was stupid that she felt such an evil person was Luke (even though it was.) Killing off Patricia is terrible. No pay off for the viewer. Patricia should have been around for at least 2 weeks. For one thing she could have blended her daughter into the family.

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  7. PGP says:

    On an off topic, Frank and Ron should get rid of that dreadful actress playing Kiki and bring on the girl who played Patricia in the flashback scenes or Molly Burnett to replace her!

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    CeeCee replied

    You are so right, PGP. Hayley Erin is just awful. Both she and Morgan are acting like spoiled brats. Don’t they have jobs? They spend their time plotting against Michael….and, committing numerous crimes doing it. Why? Just to give the baby to an oily lizard.
    This Kili is not believable….firstly, her acting is nothing more than reciting a bunch of words; secondly, the PTB are doing it again….they are completely changing who Kiki is. I do not even recognize her. No way would Kili have behaved this way….not the same person.
    And, no, su…..! I am not whining…merely expressing an opinion. It is the writers who need to grow up.

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    Harry replied

    Morgan and Kiki are acting like the mean kids in the high school cafeteria.
    They remind me of the bullies featured in all those 80′s movies.
    I fully expect their story to end with a bunch of teenagers engaging in slow clapping.

  8. JeffyJC says:

    Glad they changed it. Though it does not explain how Julian Met Fluke in Witness protection.

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    Lin replied

    agreed

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    JeffyJC replied

    That was explained today, I guess the times Luke disappeared he became his other person, and he met Jerome on one of those times. That also would explain why in the late 90′s and 2000 he always had times he just disappeared which he never really did before that

  9. Lisa says:

    I was on the edge of my seat during The Reveal episode. Tony’s facial expressions jumped out of my TV and all I wanted to do was hold him and tell him everything is going to be alright. He was absolutely amazing and deserves all the kudos and congratulations he is receiving. Thank you also to Ron for turning this story into a must see and never forget episode. It was worth the wait

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  10. Charday says:

    How does the reveal explain Helena talking to the bad Luke/Fluke in the old Spencer home or on the dock before the bomb went off on the Haunted Star boat? Also, did she talk to him in the psycho ward, too?

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    KansasGuest replied

    If you think of Luke as having a split personality, and that Fluke was growing stronger & more dominant while Luke was getting weaker & unable to assert himself (he felt like he was being kept in a straight jacket, for instance), then it makes sense. Critics seem to be taking the dual conversations so literally. “How did that happen?” “It’s impossible because he was talking to Helena!” Well, yes, just like Luke phases in & out when he’s talking with Tracy in the jail cell, he did the same thing with Helena.

    As for Miscavige, remember that Fluke & Helena set up Faison as a decoy. Luke was held captive in Fluke’s mind trying to get out, which plays on screen like he’s trying to escape his cell. But, it’s not the actual Miscavige. It’s how his mind is trying to deal with the other personality. There’s the “symbolic” Miscavige of Luke’s mind, where his good persona is being held down, and the real Miscavige where Alexis & Julian discovered Flaison. Even if Luke/Fluke phased in & out while talking to Helena, it doesn’t mean Luke was literally in a straightjacket while speaking with her. He just felt like that because Fluke was more dominant.

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    Harry replied

    My hair hurts.

  11. Michael says:

    The only part of this storyline that bugged me is that no one ever contacted or suggested speaking to Laura about Luke. Lulu would have consulted Laura or at least asked for her opinion about Luke’s behavior.

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    Timmm replied

    Two absent “L’s” and a third that is wrong as Lulu Spencer. BBB! [Bring back Berman!]

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    nancy dillingham replied

    Just one of the many glaring elephants in the room.

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    nancy dillingham replied

    What’s that old expression–”like putting lipstick on a pig”? You still got a pig when you take off all the extraneous trappings (retro set, etc). Coherent story first, actor second, audience pulling for SOMEONE third. A beautiful package with nothing inside, if I may mix my metaphors. Furthermore, a savvy ensemble knows that they are in tandem with a savvy audience that they respect.

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    Charday replied

    All good points, Nancy.

  12. su0000 says:

    However, whatever, whichever way–
    the closure was genius!
    I was spellbound, that is good thing..
    It was heartwarming to see the Spencers together, that was better than good..
    It is GH moment that will go down in soap history as one of the best of the best..
    The acting was very realistic, they felt real, actually..
    I felt them ..

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    Timmm replied

    I love everyones opinions but in the end, I’m with you Su0000, I’m not going to comb over all the facts and the little bitty details. 4-1-2015 will always be special to me as a fan of GH!

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    nancy dillingham replied

    The closing was not genious; instead it was an ignominious one.
    It was not spellbounding; it was a freak show.
    It was not heartwarming–hardly! To see the Spencers together–not! Instead we saw formerly loving siblings Luke and Barbara Jean who were depicted in the long history of Gh as overcoming great odds and rising above their horrible childhood now depicted as VICTIMS, with Luke now a “serial murderer” and “marauding angel of death”as characterized by none other than the actor Tony Geary in his interview with TV Insider.
    Go down in GH history as the best of the best–again, hardly. I would characterize it as a ripoff of Archie Bunker and Breaking Bad. Not the best of the best, but the worst of the worst, playing to the most base, lowest denominator of drama–convoluted storyline, over-the-top action, and melodrama. An intelligent, long-devoted watcher deserved much better than a deliberate slap in the face by TPTB and by the actor Tony Geary.
    They felt real, actually–they felt like caricatures of a once-fleshed out group of characters that were cared about for the last 52 years. Down in smoke, is what I say.

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    Harry replied

    Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, what do you think of the show?

    (applauding loudly–great post).

    su0000 replied

    /Nancy
    Your complaining rant was unpleasant.. sad to read your unhappiness
    Sorry you didn’t like it..
    but
    also happy you are overly upset, your own fault for watching every second with great attention to complain about every little thing..
    sad, that you hated watching it while you watched it .. (not logical to do,,lol ..

    Harry replied

    Su00,

    Speaking on behalf of management, we are sorry you found Nancy’s comment to be “unpleasant” and that it made you “sad.”
    However, we don’t recall charging you admission.

    CeeCee replied

    I parrot Harry…you go, well said, Nancy!!!!!

    Rebecca1 replied

    Nancy…their history didn’t change…it was explained. We always knew Tim Spencer was an abusive alcoholic and they had a rough childhood…and that remains a fact. We also knew they survived and took care of each other…and that’s still a fact. We now know that instead of being a helpless victim, Luke took action, albeit in the heat of the moment and with good cause. Bobby and Luke were always victims and products of their environment…and they still are. There is nothing incredulous in expanding on history, filling in the blanks, while remaining true to the family dynamics.

    I don’t go all the way back in GH history, so perhaps I’m missing something that the writers changed drastically. From my perspective, this only added to Luke’s humanity. He’s not a “serial killer”; he accidentally killed his mom and in a rage swung at his father. As for his Fluke criminal activity…he shouldn’t be held responsible for that either.

    Luke was never depicted as a saint. This explains why he chose the life he did, it explains his inability to settle in one place, his absentee parenting, his attack on Laura…

    Yes, Bobby and Luke are victims of their childhood. They always were. That doesn’t make them less dynamic. It actually emphasizes how much they had to overcome. So no pw we find out what Luke has had to bear…it’s a human tragedy that makes good drama. People are complex, some more broken than others. But I doubt Luke is going to go out a weaker man. I think he’ll come out swinging, as always.

  13. cindyd says:

    Well it does not explain why Fluke wanted to go after Sonny so badly. What were Fluke’s reasons for wanting to go after Sonny so badly? It makes no sense to me at all. And while Luke swung the bat that killed his mother it was really his fathers fault his mother died.

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  14. Caffeinated Joe (@Wings1295) says:

    Love the outcome of the story. So great to tie it all in to long-ago Spencer history and then tie that all in with GH’s first episode. Great stuff, an amazing episode and kudos to all involved.

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  15. Jay Keaveny says:

    This would be a good to reintroduce Bill’s sister. Jenny, right?

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    Timmm replied

    She was a snore!

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    Fanny replied

    She was a bore.

    Harry replied

    She was a whore!

    (Well, not really, just trying to keep Timm and Fanny’s rhyme scheme going).

    Fanny replied

    And HARRY you are a ROAR.

    CeeCee replied

    Timmm, Harry and Fanny…..the three of you are cracking me up……I needed this after su’s lectures and reprimands…’gotta’ love her.

    Timmm replied

    Wasnt her aunt Mary Tyler MOORE!

    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Please, say no more…you got me laughing on the floor…now my back is really sore…by the way, did you know i once met Al and Tipper Gore!!!

    Timmm replied

    Now were getting to the point, who plays a better James Bond, Sean Connery or Roger Moore?

    Timmm replied

    Yes, I remember Zsa Zsa Gabor!

    Timmm replied

    I know Jim thats an old story, you told it before, meeting Al and Tipper Gore, down by the SHORE!

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    Rebecca1 replied

    NOw we’re getting to the core; details galore!

    Shay replied

    @Timmm….Roger Moore, that’s for sure!!!! He was once “The Saint,” but not anymore!

  16. Diane says:

    I can’t believe Ron has done it again. Dragged out another story until no one cared the outcome. He did the same thing to ONE LIFE TO LIVE Baby Liam story. I don’t believe he cares what the fans think.

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    Timmm replied

    While I agree that it did drag a bit, the payoff was well worth it. There are some loose ends to tie up, two of which are Luke and Julian’s meeting in WPP and Luke’s hatred for Sonny, but if it never happens, I wont feel gypped.

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    Jamesj75 replied

    Diane, you’re so right!

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  17. Aria says:

    Umm did he say he’s been racking his head on how they were going to explain a lot of things and now feels like they have??? How did luke meet Julian, when did he actually have a mental breakdown? Was it when heather had him locked up and he was drugged? Or did it happen before since he’s supposily know Julian for over 16 years according to Julian himself, then theres Helena. So sorry, this storyline still leaves so unanswered questions and some logical explanation, tony did his job as an actor , he gave great performances as usual, but sorry, RC and FV were pretty sloppy with what they tried to sell at first and back peddle a lot wish left more viewers fraustrated then overjoyed. Then they bring in this beautiful soul of a character like Patricia and kill her of immediately proving as always that they are a team that no matter what is always hit and miss.

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  18. Marge says:

    why is it that Luke & Bill Eckert looked alike……no blood there….just saying…..

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    west virgina fan replied

    of course Tim could have raped Bill E’s mother and that could have been the point the families separated. And just as domestic violence was very likely to not be prosecuted back in the day, the threats of Tim to paint Bill’s mom as a slut (and that he’d be similarly violent with her).

    —I am not saying that I want this delved into. Bill is dead and buried (and Geary doesn’t need another star turn with Bill in witness protection, although…..

    But if soap characters were consistent we wouldn’t root for Erica to fall in love for the tenth time, or Vicki the fifth or sixth, or Elizabeth (the who/s my Daddy this time) the umpteenth.

    And we wouldn’t hope for the redemption of someone like Ava because Maura West makes her a compelliing, sympathetic character despite her evil deeds (although it helps that her worst sin, killing Kate/Connie was to the elimination of one of the whiniest characters of all time (until the end when Connie helped us realize what snooze fest Kate had been all along).

    Was it Blanche Dubis that said (well Tennessee said it far better than I am remembering late night) that she didn’t want reality, she wanted “magic’

    The tableau of Spencers circa 1963 and 2015 was magic. Luke recognizing his mother’s image in Carly (and that not being cheesy with the use of the same actress but terribly moving) was magic. And Tracy rising above a self centered character (who withheld medication from her Daddy (a homage to Bette Davis’ character in the Little Foxes and Another Part of the Forest), whose hormones allowed her to be duped by Luke again and again, to a heroic character who is emerging as the heart of the reconstituted Quartermaines and a woman who stands by her man–that’s magic too.

    To have that many moment’s of magic was worth it.

    And who knows, maybe Dante can grow and realize that Lulu’s capacity to forgive her father, might not be that far from him forgiving his own father for SHOOTING HIM POINT BLANK IN THE CHEST!

    But for right now I’ve had enough magic last week that I can coast with the other story lines for awhile.

    And hat’s off to not having “jake” sleep with Hayden because it would be like sleeping with a stranger. Because moments of integrity can be magical as well

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    Rebecca1 replied

    Great post, West Virginia fan.

  19. Ty says:

    Reveal doesn’t explain where Larry Ashton went. Or how Jerry Jax, he and Helena became involved.

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    Charday replied

    Would love to see Larry Ashton return. His part in the Fluke story was the only thing I enjoyed about it.

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    Rebecca1 replied

    Haha. He WAS great in his small part!

  20. su0000 says:

    It was awesome..
    If people paid attention they would have noticed all the work that went into the episode..
    The original 1963 jester painting on the wall..
    On the Spenser couch the original 1963 frog pillow
    the original dress/costumes of the area were found/made and were the hairstyles
    The cameras were as in back in the 70′s the angles etc.. not the same as now..
    The music was from the era.
    The hospital chairs from the 1963 set.. The hospital used the original sets as much as possible without reproducing..
    I liked the show opening from 1963..
    A lot of work and thought went into producing the episode.. Great job FV !!

    All that could be found from 1963 was used in the episode..
    It truly was a trip back in time..
    I am happy I did not miss the good stuff.. :)

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    Fanny replied

    The DEVIL is in the details……
    I was incredibly pleased with the turn of events this storyline took.
    FV, RC and his writing team gave us what we sorely needed to
    reconnect with long lost LUKE,too EMPATHIZE, SHARE and
    UNDERSTAND the TRAUMA he’d experienced. It left him fractured, broken and lost.
    But deep down shards of LUKE remained, and Bill was never a true viable option.
    Luke’s strength of character and sense of self will keep him rooted in PC, at least for
    a little while longer.

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    CeeCee replied

    No argument from me, Fanny. Everything you say hits the right notes. You express it well.
    But, what did the ride through the funhouse with all the Cassidines, the creation of Fluke, Julian meeting Luke in the past , the Sonny debacle…what was all that?
    His childhood trauma( and I have said this repeatedly) , albeit repressed, did leave Luke mentally damaged, but what happened had nothing to do with all these people and events.
    I loved the climax….THE INFAMOUS EPISODE. It did touch something in me. But, I am a very emotional person. I cry over everything. I loved how the siblings all came together. How they reached for one another. But, I have five siblings to whom I am very, very close. So, I assimilate. Know what I mean?
    I also fell in like with Luke….great feat for me.

  21. Ellen Perez says:

    I really liked how they did the Luke reveal. It was very emotional for all watching the show and done very well. I never thought that he killed his parents one by accident. It was sad that Pat didn’t live for a little while longer. I think this was the best show ever! A GH fan Ellen

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  22. Madalyn Shughart says:

    Anthony Geary ♡♡♡ You, my friend, have blown me away again! You delivered a heart wrenching soul depth reaching performance that had me so invested. I actually cried. Very moving. Thank you for your dedication to your craft, talent and fans.♡♡♡. GH ROCKS!

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  23. juiceydiane says:

    Now that’s what i call a good ending and surprising event, I’m glad that you didn’t make him Bill Eckert also that would have been too ridiculous to believe after all this time and we saw him dead and buried. Now just don’t make his recovery an instant thing that takes only a couple of weeks.

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  24. Mary SF says:

    When it comes this story line, we got some people seeing the glass as half empty, some seeing the glass as half full and those who say the glass is just #@%* empty because the glass was cracked and if there was anything in the glass it leaked out– LOL

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  25. Dan says:

    I’m with Tony, I’m glad he didn’t turn out to be Bill Eckert also. To me that would have been predictable and boring. I’m a big fan of the way the story concluded. Those episodes on Wed and Thurs were some of the most riveting and emotional I’ve seen in my 20 years of watching the show.

    The way the show was shown in black and white, and the way they shot the episode, with Luke standing in the background watching scenes from his childhood play out in front of him, like he was watching a play, that was exceptional work from Frank Valentini and his production team. Certainly a show to be remembered when next year’s Emmys roll around.

    I do think it’s a shame that they killed off Patricia so quickly. Dee Wallace was fantastic in her short time, and I think there was a lot more story there that could have been told. But I guess it’s poetic in a way. She had this secret to tell, and get off her chest after all these years. She did and was able to reconcile with her brother and sister, and die in peace.

    As far as the criticism being thrown around, everyone gets it, the story was re-written. Things that happened throughout the course of the story don’t necessarily mesh with where things ended up. If that ruined everything for you as a viewer, I respect your opinion, but I don’t feel that way whatsoever.

    Stories get re-written all the time on every show, daytime and primetime. If the ultimate destination of where the story ends up is worse than the original story before the re-write, then I can understand being upset. I would be too. But in this case, the re-write made the story better, in my view. You wish there didn’t have to be a re-write and that every single detail and piece of dialogue would tie in together perfectly at the end, but it doesn’t always work out that way. Writers and producers are entitled to change their mind.

    In the end, I was happy with the Fluke storyline. The acting more than made up for whatever flaws their may have been in the writing. In my humble opinion, Tony Geary cemented his status at the best actor in daytime history period. And as I stated in another comment thread, it will be a sad day when he finally leaves GH, and walks off into the sunset for good.

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    I liked it too and glad he wasnt Bill because that would mean another return from the dead character plus it made the show much better and fun not knowing too much about the outcome…i also wish they hadnt killed off Pat and was hoping Dee would make guest appearances to tell her background story these last 52 years…Dark Shadows was infamous for rewriting some of its history but fans overlooked it because the show was still good anyway just like this GH episode was!!! AS for TG final exit…maybe when he leaves he will turn out to be Bill after all…if that happens we will see some pretty interesting comments here!!!

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  26. Sara Lee Macdonald says:

    This story line has been yes a tad bit confusing but riveting none the less. This wasn’t like the Viki/Nkki DID story line this was with a male. You never knew what was going to happen next. I hope we find out what happened to Luke when he would go on the lam months at a time. I may be in the minority but I see this as the first time male abuse has been covered this way. Does anyone think or suspect that Bill Eckert may be Luke’s twin who Lena gave up at birth and only kept Luke? May explain why they looked alike or is it a knock off of the Patty Duke show?

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  27. Rodd says:

    Writing a soap is tough work. Prime time show writers have to do, what, 26 shows a season? Movie writers have one show to write. Soap writers do close to 260 shows a year. To stay on top of all that takes a heck of a lot of work.

    I’ve watched multiple soaps since 1964 and there have always been changes to story lines. There have always been some slip-ups or some real duds. But most of the time, the story lines have been ones that have taken me out of my own problems, tugged at my heart strings, entertained or educated me; sometimes, all four.

    GH’s team does a fantastic job more times than not and this story was no exception. The answers to everyone’s questions are there; you just have to look and listen.

    And I’m glad the actors were glad with the change. I agree that it really helped to keep Tracy smart and not be played the fool.

    I’m now wondering where they go now with the fallout. ???

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Ive watched soaps since 1964 too…back in the 60s Dark Shadows had the biggest slip ups and history changes in any soap ive ever watched and i loved that show…originally Collinwood mansion was built by Jeremiah Collins for his bride Josette in the early 1800s but when the storyline for 1795 was shown the house was built in that era by Jeremiah’s brother Joshua for his family to move into while their original home was intended for Barnabas once he married Josette but a witch’s curse caused Jeremiah and Josette to elope…there were many other changes to the show storylines that were goofed up…what happened in 1795/96 was later discussed as happening in 1797 instead…so GH isnt the first to make mistakes and change history and i doubt it’ll be the last!!!

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    su0000 replied

    Jimh..
    Dark Shadows is once again given life and will be aired once again starting May 15th on the Decades channel.. enjoy!!

    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    That GH episode is a favorite of mine…ive now watched it five times and will watch it again…it was that good!!!

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  28. Jake from NJ says:

    I like how it was resolved…it made more sense than a back from the dead character.

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  29. Susan says:

    I loved the story line. Everyone involved was absolutely fantastic. I was glad it was not bill ekerart, and I was thrilled that Bill Ekart was the one to hide the body, with Patricia, all those years ago. And the old Patricia, was the very best actress they could get. It was so believable that she was one of the three spencer siblings. She made me cry so much, when she grabbed Luke’s hand. Also the young luke was so amazing. Anthony Geary was so great, and young Patricia was great too, even Carly as their mother, was amazing. I loved when Luke asked Carly, did Bobbie ever tell her, how much she looked like their mother. It was a great reveal, and I have watched it three times already. This episode, will no doubt get the Emmy next year, along with everyone involved. It was the best ever. Kudos, to Ron Carvalati. I will never forget this episode .

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    su0000 replied

    GH.. the 52nd anniversary episode will indeed be held in soap opera history as the best of the best moments in soap history..

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  30. janet says:

    What a joke. The kid, and Luke was just a kid accidently kills his mother with a bat, so he just kills his father with the same bat. On purpose. The Luke who was on since then married Laura saved the world, had two kids was a great father to one of them,. Then he went nuts again and plotted to kill his kids and everyone else. He had no idea what he did ? WTH is TIIC of this show doing ? The left hand doesn’t have an idea what the right one is doing. Will he go to the nut house, be cured and like Sonny come out to continue his old ways. ? FrankenRon don’t seem to know what they are doing. Something comes up, change the story. So Ron got his skivvies in a knot when everyone guessed Luke was Bill and decided to change everything no matter that the whole thing made no sense. The whole show makes no sense.

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  31. Karen says:

    What a total surprise! I have watched The Luke and Laura story line from back in the 80′s, we always knew luke and Bobbie had lived with Aunt Rubie” but never knew the full back round. Thank you gh writers for closing out an old story line us all time fans!

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  32. Rose says:

    One thing you can say about RC, etc., is that he is very good at big one time productions. We’ve just seen the big reveal, and no matter how you felt about how convoluted and are-we-there-yet storyline, it was impressive. But also don’t forget who and what he brought to the GH Nurses Ball, and all of the veterans he brought back who still make appearances or are recurring characters now.

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    Shay replied

    Speaking of the Nurses’ Ball, does anyone else think at this year’s event we might be treated to a “Music of the Night” routine via that pint-sized “Phantom of the Opera,” Spencer? So help me, that was the very first thought that crossed my mind when I saw that “masked” kiddo. Coincidence? (Would be a perfect song for Dr. O’s Kathleen Gati to perform…..)

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    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    We seem to think alike…i called Spenser ‘The Little Phantom Of The Soap Opera’ under a different topic…but i forgot the name of the song and put in Emma name instead of our favorite mutter…how awesome that would be if Dr.Liesel sang’ Music Of The Night’…

  33. Tom says:

    No offense. But you all need to get a life. The wed April 1st episode was awesome.
    Stop analyzing it like your the chief critic for the NY Times for goodness sake.
    When an actor of Tony Geary’s stature in an interview gives the highest praise for
    The episode yet you still find fault!!!! I think he knows the character more than any of
    Us. Grow up. Support GH before it gets cancelled! Would you prefer that!?!?

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    CeeCee replied

    Hey, Tom.
    I think our comments, negative or positive, are the highest of compliments that could possibly be bestowed upon GH. No one wants to see this soap, or any other, be cancelled.
    Many of us have been saying this over and over, in different ways…we offer differences of opinion. ‘Tis what makes the world go ’round. I suppose it matters not trying to explain myself….I give up, which is a colossal surrender, for me. See my white flag!?……getting tiresome.
    Have you never sat in English/Humanities/Philosophy class to dissect a novel or a philosopher’s/philosophe’s point of view? Critiquing is the point. We are offered this site as a platform. Thus, it begs discussion…pros and cons.
    Don’t you find it fascinating that we can collectively, as intelligent beings, discuss the ups and downs of a plot? Aren’t you interested in anyone else’s opinion? If so, why must a plot always have to be lauded? If I disagree with the way a certain scene has been written/enacted, or if I do not like its progression, I will not say “I just love this plot” just to please you, the writers or anyone else.
    This does not mean I do not support the soap. It means I love the soap to the extend that I find the time to discuss the likes and dislikes.
    So, Tom…..stop telling me or others to get a life. You do not know any of us. It just bothers me to no end that you and others take it upon yourselves to tell us to get a life……I HAVE A LIFE….A VERY RICH AND FULFILLING ONE.
    I love soaps. I grew up watching them. They are part of my life.
    I respect soaps and all the creators of soaps…the writers, the crew, the actors/actresses, who dedicate their lives to their craft to bring us pleasure and entertainment.
    Good night, Tom.

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    abruzzfan replied

    Well said Tom! I agree with you 100%. GH is great entertainment!

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  34. Betty Lou says:

    Luke is alwsys interesting only clue to his break was when he was arguing with bill in the basement , love the story line. Looking foreward to how they help.him now.

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  35. Iakovos says:

    I enjoyed the episode and the acting, even the young people, was excellent. I liked seeing Laura Wright as the mom for I sometimes think Carly is the forgotten Spencer. this brought her back.

    Hope Luke/Fluke is done now with mining the dramatic fallout the next chapters. The absence of Laura and Lucky is felt so strongly though. No way to being these characters back?

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  36. nancy dillingham says:

    Thanks, Rebecca 1, for your reply–but the words “serial murderer’” are those used by Tony Geary himself in his interview with TV Insider. Apparently he has seen too much TV lately, namely “Breaking Bad.”

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    Rebecca1 replied

    Hey, Nancy. I’ve never watched Breaking Bad…hope it’s on On Demand. I looked up the interview with Geary you were referring to…thought it was great. I like to see how invested he is in the story and his character. With that said, his thoughts about Luke being fractured, the psychological ramifications, the insight into his past behavior, echoes my own. I hadn’t read his thoughts til now, but I agree with him on how the writers DID stay true to Luke’s history and by giving him this devastating, dark secret buried so deep…it explains rather than deviates from Luke’s character.

    I do believe they’ll answer some of the questions viewers have about Fluke’s hatred of Sonny, etc…and I believe a lot of the scenes that started out as Luke vs Bill can be explained away with psychotic break, hallucinations.

    I’m much more frustrated by the comparatively little things on soaps that make no sense. Things like Carly going to visit Jake at Julians garage is the height of stupidity…and even when it’s pointed out to her they continue talking there. Anna and Jordan meeting several times in public sitting back to back talking on their cells. The tv reporter filming Michael’s drunken stupor sitting inches away from Sonny, Sabrina, Olivia and Michael; no one notices him. THIS stupidity on the part of the writers gets to me much more. It’s just common sense, or lack thereof.

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