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90 October 6th, 2015 B&B’s Linsey Godfrey and Pierson Fode Interview: Will Caroline Keep Thomas In The Dark For The Love Of Ridge?

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Talk about your daddy issues!  There is plenty of drama to still play out in The Bold and the Beautiful’s latest hot plot, which finds newly married Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) and Caroline (Linsey Godfrey) faced with some potentially damaging revelations to their relationship!  Since last week, and into this week’s pivotal episodes, the CBS Daytime soap opera has pulled no punches (except for the one Thomas landed on Ridge) with propelling the story forward.  Here’s how: Caroline revealed the truth to Ridge that not only did she have sex with his son Thomas (Pierson Fode) in a haze (thanks to some anti-depressants and some booze), but she is pregnant!  Meanwhile a few episodes back, Ridge revealed to Caroline that he had a vasectomy while in Europe.  Once he realized he was in love with Caroline and she wanted a child, he tried to reverse it.  Unfortunately, Ridge received bad news from his doctor.  Caroline found herself pregnant nevertheless, meaning that Thomas must be the bio-dad!

And that’s not good news either, since Thomas and Ridge are virtually at each other’s throats, and this piece of ‘intel’ only rocks Ridge’s world further, and gives him more ammunition to want to further alienate his son.  In a shocker on Tuesday’s episode, Ridge reveals to Caroline that he wants them to raise the unborn child as their own, and that Thomas will never know!  But, will Caroline go along with his request to salvage her marriage?  Can she ever feel right about not telling Thomas the truth, when she may be the ultimate truthsayer?

On-Air On-Soaps sat down with two of the brightest young talents on daytime soaps today, Linsey Godfrey and Pierson Fode, to chat about the delicate complexities that this story sets up between Caroline and Thomas, and each of their relationships with Ridge.  In the end, can CaRidge’s love survive?  Will Thomas find out the woman he loves and desires is carrying his child?  Can this story have so many legs to it that this secret may not come out for years?  Only time will tell!  However, Linsey and Pierson shared with us their thoughts on playing this top-notch emotional story that has given each of them an opportunity to shine.

How did you find out about Caroline’s major storyline that she would end up pregnant, and what was your initial reaction to the news?

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LINSEY:   I was sitting in Brad Bell’s (executive producer and head writer, B&B) office for a visit, and I was shocked when he told me about the storyline.  I was just so excited and grateful to have the opportunity to stretch my wings acting-wise.  I knew this was going to be a big storyline, not just for me but for Pierson, and for Thorsten Kaye (Ridge).  I think I left the office with my mouth open, and called Pierson on my way home!

To clear the air, Thomas did not take advantage of Caroline, as he had no idea that she had popped some pills, and downed some alcohol to drown the pain of her temporary break-up from Ridge?

PIERSON:  Thomas thought he was making love to Caroline, and unfortunately they were both were under the influence.  It was just such a misunderstanding.  It’s too bad when lines get crossed like that.  It sucks for Thomas!

What were your thoughts on the fact that Thomas punched his father?  There are a lot of daddy issues going around these days on B&B!

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PIERSON:  The apple does not fall far from the tree at this point.  He definitely is following in his father’s footsteps, as far as the story goes, but to that, there is a big piece of Thomas that always wanted his dad’s approval, which is why he acts out in so many different ways.  That is why at this point he has lost the ability to say, “Dad, I just want you to love me.”  That opportunity passed when Thomas was a little kid.  Thomas is doing anything he can to get his dad’s attention, and approval.  Finally, he is fed up to the brim and lashes out … hence the punch.

In the end analysis, does Thomas truly love Caroline?

PIERSON:  Thomas loves Caroline and his father, and that is what is so conflicting for him. He has these unrequited feelings for Caroline that he is trying to push down all of the time.

Caroline was having such an internal struggle over having sex with Thomas.  We watched her agonize about what to do, and how to handle the situation after she learns she’s pregnant, and after she learns Ridge could not be the father.  Why did she finally come out with the truth to Ridge?  Was she just overwhelmed with guilt?  On most soaps, this first part of the secret would have taken months to come out, but kudos to B&B for taking a different tact in their storytelling.

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LINSEY:  It’s kind of one of my favorite things about Caroline: her genuine disdain and actual discomfort with lying.  I find that so refreshing on a soap, because most of the characters are hiding secrets.  I like that this character can’t lie, and how it really makes her uncomfortable.  I think for her, she initially thought she might go tell Thomas first, and it did not work out that.  I think she then changed her perspective and thought the first right thing to do is to tell Ridge she slept with Thomas.   I love that about her.  She tries to do things right.

Why did Caroline decide to go as far as she did though, and admit to Ridge she is pregnant by his son? 

LINSEY:   I think because after she revealed she slept with Thomas, Ridge is kind of comforting going, “OK, that’s terrible. I think we can get past it.”  Meanwhile, Caroline is going, “Yeah, but that’s not the bad part!”   For her, Ridge is so understanding of it – and even before she revealed it was Thomas that she slept with, but had admitted she slept with someone else – Ridge was like, “OK. We can get past this!”  And she is like, “OK, but there is one more thing … I’m pregnant!”  I think if Ridge had a huge reaction to her revealing she slept with someone else, I don’t think she would have told him that it was Thomas.  But, because this man has so much love for her, she just can’t lie, and she feels she has to tell him.

What did you think of Ridge’s reaction to the bombshells?  And what did you think of Thorsten Kaye’s performances in the pivotal scenes?

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LINSEY:  Ridge loses it for a second, but their story is so unique.  I think their love knows no bounds … sometimes.  You see Ridge freak out, and it is so interesting to watch Thorsten do things like that.  You see the complete despair, and then you see the destruction of his heart in that moment.  Then you also see him look up at the woman that he loves.  You kind of see him internally step up as a man.   It was just a really fascinating episode, where you see a complete heartbreak and you see him kind of think:  “I can’t do this to this poor girl.  She’s pregnant, and it’s the woman that I love.”  You watch him rebuild again.  For me as an actress watching Thorsten, I was just in awe of him.

What has it been like for both of you working with such an accomplished actor as Thorsten?  Has he raised the bar for both of you?

PIERSON:  When you are working with Thorsten, he is the kind of actor who forces everybody to be up to his level, or get out.

LINSEY:  Yes, he demands it of you.

PIERSON:  It’s so much fun!  That’s what every actor wants … someone who is doing it and is good at it, and to stand on their shoulders and be fathered into that.  I think that is such a cool process for me to be a part of it.  Even just to go breakdown storylines with him, and talk about little moments that we could have, and subtle things, such as when a father and a son may have a moment, where the son is trying to say, “I’m trying.”  It will just be a glance between us.  Thorsten will go, “That’s the moment we are looking for right there.”  He explains it to you in a way that you understand the scenes so much better.

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LINSEY:   I completely agree with Pierson.  Every day I come to work I go sit in Thorsten’s room.  We work things out.  There are times where I will say, “I don’t know what this means?  Why am I saying this?”  So we break it down.  I was already a fan of Thorsten’s before he came on to B&B.  I was quite excited when they told me he was coming here.  I loved him on Smash!   Thorsten demands it of you to step up, and he does not appreciate it when people phone it in.  The scenes you are seeing air right now were taped over a month.   I was sobbing on-screen every day.  Sometimes I would get in my head, but Thorsten can play me like a fiddle, and I have never seen anything like it.  He knows exactly what to say, even when I feel disconnected in a scene.  Thorsten will say something and change his line in a way, and I will just start sobbing.  He knows exactly what to say and when to say it, and how he wants to say it.  In the scene where Ridge talks to Caroline about how sad he is that he cannot give him a baby, Thorsten says, “I just wanted to have this little baby, this little monkey.”  Well, that is what I call my real-life daughter Aleda.  I call her “monkey”.  So he knew to do it, it made me cry, and I cannot say enough about that grumpy man! (Laughs)

Recently, Thomas was having a rendezvous with Charlotte (Camelia Somers) the intern.  He was badly scolded by his dad over that, and now his sister Steffy (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) has witnessed Thomas hitting on the young intern.  Is this behavior just part of a rebound effect of not being able to be with Caroline?

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PIERSON:  Anything that Thomas does is to numb the pain, just like we do in life when it’s over something we can’t have.  Right now he is trying to respect the boundaries that have been put up, and the mistakes that have been made along the way.  He’s thinking “Whatever I am doing, or whoever I am with, it’s just something to fill up that void that I’m feeling.”  For example: sleeping with Charlotte, or going and punching his father. He is now fraternizing with the models.  Thomas is thinking he wants to run around, too!

What will Ridge and Caroline decide to do now as a couple?  He has the knowledge that she is carrying his son’s child!

LINSEY:  Caroline and Ridge have some very serious big decisions to make individually as a couple, and in business, because Ridge has some big issues ahead of him.  He also knows at this point, Thomas does not know the truth.

Would it destroy Caroline if Ridge ultimately chooses to leave her?

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LINSEY:   I think it would destroy her.  She is in love with him.  I don’t think he could pry her out with a crowbar.  But, if Ridge left her, I don’t think Caroline would ever be OK.

Caroline has made it clear that having a baby is so important to her, but at what cost to her marriage?  

LINSEY:  She wants the baby, and it’s important to her.  I can’t tell you if she wants this baby or not, because that is part of their decision.  If Ridge couldn’t handle that, it would kill Caroline in a way that I don’t know if she would ever get over it.

What are Caroline’s feelings for Thomas at this point in time?

LINSEY:   I think Caroline feels very conflicted towards Thomas.  I think it’s an interesting dynamic that you will see play out over the next couple of weeks.  You will see her more confused and unclear, but at the same time, she just really wants to put the Thomas incident behind her.

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Do you think Caroline even realizes how much Thomas cares for her?

LINSEY:   I don’t.  Pierson plays it in a way that he doesn’t let Caroline see his feelings towards her, which I think is an interesting choice.  He knows Caroline does not reciprocate these feelings.  If anything, she thinks he may have a crush on her.  You see this person in pain and loving someone, and he doesn’t know what to do with these feelings. And, he is kind of confused by it.  That’s been a really strong choice on Pierson’s part, because it wasn’t written that way.

What happened when the two of you first laid eyes on each other in the audition room?  Pierson, what were your initial impressions of Linsey?

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PIERSON:  I walked into the audition room and Linsey was sitting in the chair, and I thought she was pretty chill.   One of the casting directors gave me a note before I started, “Just make sure you get in her face.”  Linsey said, “I need you to get in my face.”  Apparently, the other guys who were in there auditioning were not getting in her face enough! (Laughs)

LINSEY:  They were uncomfortable getting that close to me, and to have to try and seduce me.  The audition scene was very seductive.  And, I even knew two of the guys that auditioned with me as people outside of this!

PIERSON:  I think we had easy chemistry right away, and it was fun.  It felt easy to do the scene.  I walked out of the room when she walked out, and so we chatted in the elevator, and then all the way down to the car.  I handed Linsey three dollars as a bribe and said, “This should get the job done!” (Laughs)

Ok Linsey … what were your first impressions of Pierson?

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LINSEY:   I thought he was so tall!  (Laughs)  Pierson was the last one in, and he did a great job with the scene.  I would say when we took our elevator ride in the building from the top floor to the bottom of the building, we became best friends.  I picked Pierson up and we carpooled on his first day of work.

Linsey, have you given any thought to entering your name into the Lead Actress category for next year’s Daytime Emmys?  You certainly have the material now should you decide to go that route!

LINSEY:  Thank you, for saying that.  I would be honored to submit myself in any category that the show would let me, including ‘Younger Actress’ if I could fake my birth certificate! (Laughs)  I have been very fortunate and grateful to have the material I have this year so far, and the opportunity to play it!  I have to thank Brad Bell, and all the writers, producers, the crew, Thorsten Kaye, and even Pierson! (Laughs)

The annual Leukemia & Lymphoma Society Light the Night Walk is happening on October 10th in Los Angeles, and once again you will be participating. 

LINSEY:  Yes!  I am one of the ambassadors for it.  The walk is to benefit the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, and I am a lymphoma survivor.  I am excited to be a part of it since last year I had to miss out on it, because of the birth of my child.  I want to continue to help raise awareness and funds for cancer research, drug development, and patient services.  So come out and join me at LA Live this coming weekend!

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The fact that you are even walking in the Light the Night Walk is amazing; when you think about the courage and perseverance it took to be able to walk again after you were hit by a car on a sidewalk back in February.  Honestly, you have been an inspiration to many to be able to go through the emotional and physical aspects of your recovery, raising a baby, and having such a heavy workload at B&B.  It’s quite impressive.

LINSEY:  The reason I did not start fundraising earlier was I did not think I would be healed by now.  I did not think I was going to be OK enough to do it.  Now being here, and being able to be walking around, and in heels, or jumping and chasing my daughter around, and giving to other people the gift of hope, health, and time and all of that … it’s exciting and wonderful for me.  Come on and walk with me, and see Pierson shirtless!  I want someone one to donate $1,000 to me for every ab that Pierson has!  (Laughs)

Pierson, will you walk shirtless to help Linsey raise money?  Anything for a good cause, right?

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PIERSON:  Yes, I am tentatively scheduled to participate and walk … shirtless!

So, the drama is going to continue for Thomas and Caroline!  What are your thoughts on how this story is playing out on the air, and where it may be headed?

PIERSON:  I love the crazier a story gets!  Ridge has something very life-changing for Thomas.  It’s funny, because there was one episode where Ridge tells Thomas he loves him. Thomas has been waiting to hear that his whole life, and now it’s back to bare bones, and pushing his son away again.  Meanwhile, Thomas is struggling trying to figure out what is going on, and “What did I do wrong this time?”   So now not only has the dynamic changed between his dad and Caroline, but it affects a lot of other people.

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LINSEY:   I think what is interesting about this storyline is that you get to experience love in different definitions of the word. You get to see love between a man and his wife and their struggle, and the love between this man and his son, and then an unrequited love between Thomas and Caroline. You see how different kinds of love are, and how they play out.  You get to watch a lot of variations of emotions as you watch people crumble, and then get built back up.  You will really also watch the change in dynamics of this couple… CaRidge!

So, what do you think about the Caroline and Thomas storyline?  Do you hope that Caroline keeps the baby and raises it as Ridge’s child as he has asked her to do?  Do you want Thomas to learn the truth sooner than later?  Are you rooting for CaRidge to stay together? Do you think Thomas will always be in love with Caroline, no matter what woman he may be with? What have you thought of the performances of Pierson, Linsey, and Thorsten Kaye in this top story on B&B?  Share your thoughts in the comment section below!

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  1. Cody Lewis says:

    I would like Thomas to find our sooner rather then later we do not need another Brooke deacon n hope storyline where the kid finds out as a teenager

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  2. Jen says:

    To clear the air? Really? I don’t care how many times anyone tries to whitewash what happened between Thomas and Caroline. He certainly did take advantage! There was no misunderstanding unless Thomas is a complete moron and thinks that Caroline fresh off her breakup, sobbing about her live for Ridge actually wanted to have sex with him in that moment. If the writers didn’t want to taint them as a potential couple then they should have not put so much effort in showing us a semi awake mess of a Roman who reacted like a rape victim when she came to! I can’t believe the lack of sensitivity B&B is showing this issue. The opposite of the sensitivity they showed to the transgender issue!

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    Callie replied

    ITA, Jenn.
    We all saw the scene and I will never in a million years believe that Thomas saw the state that Caroline was in and thought it was a good idea to make a move. I’m just glad LG didn’t reply on that answer, lol.

    I will root for Caridge until the very end and hope they baby will turn out to be Ridge’s after all!

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    Lana replied

    Agreed. He raped her. Thomas flashing back on the night doesn’t help.

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    Angela replied

    You two are correct! I find it disgusting that both(not Linsey) are white washing it. Yes he took advantage of her.

    Kelly replied

    Oh come on please ! When Ridge did it to Brooke, you weren’t so quick to say that Ridge was a rapist!! It’s only when it suits you!! Thomas didn’t know she was on med! That’s not rape!!

    And when Taylor gave pills to Ridge to take advantage of him, what was that?!

    So just stop, Ridge is a pig, he slept with his father’s wife, so he can’t comdemned his son!!

    brothasoap replied

    It was clear to me that there was no rape involved during that scene between Thomas & Caroline, so I felt it a very odd choice for B&B to show Caroline acting as if she were raped. Given that both were inebriated, I’d expected her to wake up feeling regretful, as is common on soaps. However, Bold made a very deliberate directing choice, in allowing Caroline to toy with the assumption that she may have been assaulted. I really do not understand the logic behind that decision, unless we are pending the reveal that Caroline entertained the thought that she was raped, because it was an easier mental construct than accepting the truth — she was a willing participant — because of her lingering feelings for Ridge. I really feel as though the show needs to address this point. Rape stories are triggering events for a number of people, so it is unsurprising that social media has been divided on this issue. And since the show made the bold decision to direct the story in this manner, I think it makes sense that they would provide some sort of explanation, in the scripting, to make the reality of that night unambiguously clear.

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    sweetautumn replied

    You and I must be watching different scene. Caroline was inebriated and the mix of pill make it worse. As the scene indicated, She can hardly recognize who’s the person due to her blurry vision. Then she pass out. But Thomas was not that drunk or under the heavy influence of drunk since he pretty much remembering about the last nite even when Caroline repeatedly tell him being a good friend. Not to mention he saw a miserable and devastated woman who cried her heart out for another man. But he made a move and took advantage who was clearly out of state, who need a friend. What kind of man he is by doing something like this to his friend?

  3. Tivette says:

    I call them RidgeCa and ThomasCa…FWIW. I’m expecting a tumultuous ride for several months and sometime around when the baby arrives or shortly after that there may be something medical that will require the REAL baby daddy to have to be called in to save it”s precious life. Then a whole lot of things will go crazy again! That would be an old standard soap story line, but a goodie! :) )

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  4. Peg says:

    I think Thorsten is doing an amazing job, so is Linsey. I think the fact that Ridge is claiming this child as his own and keeping the secret from Thomas, is going to blow up in his face. Especially if Caroline isn’t able to keep the secret. The fact that Brooke knows will also play into this storyline. She will know immediately that the child isn’t Ridge’s. I think Brooke will keep that secret, but will Caroline? What bothers me is that no one, not even Ridge, accepts the fact that what Thomas did to Caroline was not even close to what he did to Brooke years ago. Ridge raped Brooke, Thomas didn’t rape Caroline. Sure he took advantage of her, but Caroline was a willing participant, unlike Brooke. Ridge is also known for bedding Interns. Ridge has no room to talk, because he is no better then Thomas. What makes Ridge such a great father? Obviously he isn’t, because then Thomas wouldn’t be the way he is. Ridge needs to accept this fact, that Thomas is just like Daddy. I think eventually this lie and the baby, will drive Caroline to Thomas. Brooke will be standing back to pick up the pieces of Ridge’s broken heart.

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    sweetautumn replied

    We all have seen the flashback. Thomas make a move on a Caroline when she was clearly not in the condition and had a blackout. Not to mention she repeatedly mention how much she loves another man. Taking advantage of a drunk, heartbroken and devastated woman is not ok.

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    LILI replied

    True. And Wyatt did the exact same thing with Steffy, when Liam was in Australia, he took advantage of a drunk and heartbroken woman… with the only difference that Steffy rejected him that night.

    sweetautumn replied

    We’ve all seen the scene and flashback. It was clearly Thomas made a move on a drunken and devastated and then out of conscious woman who repeatedly pledged her love to another man and who was not interested in sexual healing. She was never a willing participant to begin with.

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    Peg replied

    Thomas took advantage. If you read this interview it was supposed to be all about Love. My point is that Ridge is no saint. A person who lives in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Ridge Raped Brooke. She told him to leave and she told him NO. Ridge slept with her anyway. To Ridge passing judgement on Thomas’s ability of being a parent is hypocritical. Thomas is what Ridge made him. So obviously Ridge isn’t a very good parent either and he needs to own it. The fact that Thomas is doing exactly what Ridge has done at Thomas’s age proves it. Caroline would be smart and leave with the child. Neither man is parent material but maybe with some training Thomas could prove to all that he is…Ridge it’s too late. He screwed up too many of his children. Another one would be too many.

    sweetautumn replied

    I read the interview and the show. What Ridge did to Brooke was terrible but doesn’t give Thomas the excuse to repeat the history. Just like in real life, people commit crimes, steal things but doesn’t give you the excuse to do the same.

    I know Ridge’s past history. But Caroline’s not Ridge’s conquests or flings. What they have goes really deep. Ridge had showed he’s a different man with Caroline. And they are one of the more mature and healthy couple on the show.

    Btw, When someone opened up about characters’ past history lately. She probably didn’t know she opened up a can of worms. What I’ve heard from long-time viewer (some of them are Taylor/Ridge fans), Ridge and Thomas got along fairly well in the past. So a terrible father? I doubted. Not a great father. I think so. But since this is B&B we are talking about, there is not really great fathers.

  5. Diane Jones says:

    I want to see Ridge and Caroline raise the baby,Thomas is too immature,I don’t really like him.

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  6. Shannon says:

    Will Karen and Dani show up at any point during this storyline? Caroline really needs her moms!

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  7. Sharon says:

    CaRidge belong together! Their chemistry is magical, undeniable & sizzling! Please don’t mess it up – they’re a big reason I watch B&B.

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    Jeannine replied

    Same here. Ridge and Caroline belong together. Here in Holland we are behind. Episode where Rdige and Caroline kiss when they are working together fot the last time in the gardenhouse. I watched that episode over and over again. It’s magical their chemistry.

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  8. RM says:

    Thanks for the interview. Love Linsey, Pierson and Thorsten in this storyline. I can’t wait to see their relationship progress. Ridge is too old and not the right men for Caroline. That being said, I hope Caroline and Thomas get to raise their child and grow closer as they do. Thanks, Michael.

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  9. Lia says:

    She is Caroline. I expected to read something mature, and she sounds silly.

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    penny replied

    Hahaha! ;)

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    Kelly replied

    Agreed !! Lindsey can’t honestly believe any of that garbage can she? Please tell me that Bell scripts these interviews?!? No sane person can honestly think and say that Caroline hates to lie and she’s a virtue of honesty and trying to always do the right thing… honey did you forget about cheating on Rick with his step brother Ridge? Did you forget about the fact that Katie and Ridge were still together when you were playing footsies under the desk with him and you had your wedding band from Rick on your finger?

    I guess her memory isn’t as long or sharp as ours.

  10. Scoma60 says:

    B&B can backpedal all they want but I know what I saw. Caroline was violated.Plain and simple. She was incapable of giving consent. Thomas wasn’t drunk when he showed up so he wasn’t as out of it as he pretends. He knew Caroline would never have slept with him so he creepily took this opportunity. Thomas has been acting sleazy and creepy ever since he returned to LA. I hope Ridge banishes him to Paris again. I also hope the baby’s Ridge’s. The doctor never said zero chance. He said less than 10%

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    Lia replied

    Blame it on Thomas, because that’s better then calling Caroline what she is, a tramp. She knew what she was doing that night. He didn’t violate her, he had drunken sex with her. Both were drunk. She took pills, and ordered wine. Then she texted him her location. Sounds to me like she knew exactly what she wanted that night.

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    Lisanne replied

    To imply that Caroline called her ‘friend’ Thomas for the explicit reason to have sex puts the blame entirely on Caroline’s shoulders. Caroline is no tramp. This is a sexist and biased attitude best left in the last century. Thomas date raped her and the rapist is ALWAYS at fault.

    That Thomas would enjoy sex with a woman clearly inebriated makes him one creepy man but Caroline was more than just drunk whether he knew about the drugs or not she was very impaired and he took advantage. He was not as drunk and knew very well what he was doing that makes him one big sleaze bag. Caroline is manifesting very real symptoms of being raped by finding excuses for the Neanderthal.

    If Brad Bell wants to make this character (Thomas) viable, all the details of that night should be shown and learned or else send him off to Folsom State Prison.

    Lia replied

    You’re the one who’s sexist and biased. Everything you wrote says you were either raped or just have a general hatred of men. Caroline has screwed three men in the same family within a year, and that makes her a tramp whether you like it or not. She sent Thomas her location, and then popped pills, and ordered two bottles of wine. Looks like she set Thomas up, her lover’s son…now that’s creepy.

    GoldenBear replied

    Lia, I find your words to Lisanne offensive. You don’t have to be a “man hater”, or God forbid, a rape victim to feel that what Thomas did was 100% wrong. First of all, HE called her that night, could tell she was upset and she told him where she was because she needed a friend. She took the pills to ease her anxiety, and began drinking wine. Not a smart move, but it is what it is…she was trying to ease the pain. When her “friend” arrived, what did he do? He listened to her cry her eyes out about her love for Ridge and witnessed her heart break over “not knowing how NOT to love” him. Now, a FRIEND would have stayed sober, listened to her, offered her a shoulder to cry on, maybe tuck her into bed and leave…or stay til morning to make sure she didn’t get hurt. But not Thomas. He indulged in wine too..what possible reason did he have to get drunk? None. Next, he initiated physical contact by laying down on the bed with her, uninvited. We, the audience, saw that Caroline was drifting in and out of lucidity, her words slurred, her face stained with tears. Thomas then goes for the kill….leans in for a kiss, which is barely returned by Caroline. The next thing we see is Caroline waking up, thinking Ridge is next to her, and being greeted instead by the Cheshire Cat smirk of Thomas in bed with her. Her sheer horror over what he told her had happened was palpable. She DID NOT want sex with him…he was supposed to be her friend. She was incapable of truly consenting to sex because of her condition. How could Thomas NOT know she was incapacitated and didn’t want him? He was sober when he arrived and while she was hysterically crying over losing Ridge. Did that scream “she wants me!” to him? If so, there is something seriously wrong with him. Thomas violated Caroline’s body, and he violated her trust. I really hope the show doesn’t reward him with a baby…that is a disgusting message to send to young women who watch the show. “Hey ladies, if you take pills and get drunk you deserve to become the receptacle for any horny man’s sperm, especially if you dated him “first” and he “loves” you. It’s all a misunderstanding! Don’t be so sensitive. Suck it up and bear him a child!” No no no. I hope the show addresses theses issues.

    Lisanne replied

    Lia, I find your words unbelievable in addition to ignorant. I have no hatred of men nor have I ever been raped or taken advantage of. However, I am in the medical field and have taken care of numerous numbers of rape victims both MALE and female. Whether or not a real person or reel character has voluntarily drunk or taken drugs that does not give a male or female for that matter, a pass to take advantage of another sexually or any other way either. I don’t know whether or not your postings are to just incite or they are your real feelings, but they are filled with ignorance and venom. When you take care of a four year old boy who was sexually assaulted by a FEMALE, or a young teen girl who was date raped and have to go to court to testify in these cases come back and post and try to be objective. Perhaps I wasn’t because MY opinion was based on Real facts. I hope that the writers of this show will base their storyline on the present day and not the 1980′s when men were given a pass. But what hasn’t changed unfortunately from the 80′s is that the victim still blames her/himself or and tries to give a pass to the rapist.

    Whether or not Thomas raped or not should be explored. We didn’t see him actually have sex with Caroline perhaps he didn’t and is just allowing her to think that, telling her something she cannot remember is cruel and base. JMO, but I think he is just trying to get back at his father for whatever transgressions he is drumming up and frankly is just plain jealous of his father.. I feel bad for the actor portraying Thomas because he is probably being fed this line about it all being a ‘misunderstanding’ by the writers to whitewash what happened to try and salvage this character. Too bad. It’s too late.

  11. Bambi says:

    Caroline / Ridge is some of the best time drama to have happened to Bold in a long time. I find myself running home to watch them. Too many couples have already been debunked on the show. I would love to see this couple with more chemistry then any other last. I like the Thomas /Ridge drama. But this stupid Thomas kid is not ready to be a daddy. Nor should they make him one. I have a feeling that this is a #CaRidge baby.

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    Lia replied

    That’s because you want it to be a CaRidge baby. Everyone on the show has said Ridge is sterile, so it’s not a CaRidge baby, it’s a Carmas baby. And this couple is foul because they’re built on lies and betrayal. I’m waiting for Raya to return Friday. Now that’s a great couple.

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    bellabecka replied

    Can’t stand Maya. Doctors and labs do make mistakes on tests regarding fertility Ridge should have gotten a second opinion. Look at what happened to Steffi…she was told due to her accident she would never have children which is why she initially left Liam, and then told she can have kids. Miracles in soaps do happen. :)

    Lia replied

    You’re forgetting one important factor bellabeca, Steffy can now have kids because of a procedure. Ridge has had no procedure, and the doctor told him there isn’t one, so that is Thomas’ child.

    JUDY replied

    MY COMMENTS EXACTLY…..MUCH BETTER STORY LINE THAN MANY OF THE PREVIOUS….GREAT ACTING…

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  12. Beth says:

    I also hope Thomas finds out sooner rather than later and I’ll go one step further and say that I hope B&B does a better job at writing for Thomas and not having him mope around for Caroline or want his father’s wife. Whether CaRidge makes it or not is not the point to me. This is a legacy character and the writing for Taylor and Ridge’s son has been pretty bad and while I appreciate that Pierson is saying all the right things in his interviews, I don’t see the story playing out the way he and Linsey have described it. So B&B needs to cut its losses and move Thomas away from this storyline and into a story with another leading lady pronto. I still expect that the baby will be Ridge’s and then Thomas can move on from this story. It’s funny to me how no one saw Aly’s death coming, and no one thought Rick would accept Maya as easily as he did, but alot of us are predicting that Caroline’s baby will turn out to be Ridge’s, and I can’t see B&B doing anything different.

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  13. bellabecka says:

    I think for the time being it should be left alone and not tell Thomas. May be as things cool off between the two…but right now it would just be a disaster to everyone involved. I don’t think Caroline could stand Ridge leaving her over this as she couldn’t the first time which is why Thomas came over. However, Thomas should have known that even though what Caroline was telling him that Ridge said it was over because he didn’t want to have children, to have waited a while to see if it was really over with them versus jumping in and making out with her. Thomas is not mature enough to handle Caroline being pregnant with his child. He is too much into himself and getting and having many women in his life versus settling down with one. Even if Thomas knew, it would just drive him and his father further apart, not closer. And there still could be away for this to be Ridge’s baby. Just because Ridge’s tests came back conclusive, doesn’t mean that they couldn’t be showing a false positive that he can’t have children from his vasectomy. Ridge should have gotten a second opinion.

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    Radah Butcher replied

    Brooke will figure out,

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    bellabecka replied

    Even if Brooke finds out, she may keep her mouth shut for once. After all it is none of her business to begin with and if she cares about Ridge at all, she won’t. reveal whose baby it is.

    Kelly replied

    And Thomas will too !! he knows well that he had sex with Caroline and he can count until 9 months !!! He will have doubts and he will asked for a paternity test!!
    All I hope is that with this test, Ridge will learn he is NOT Thomas’ father!!!
    That could be the icing on the cake!!!

    Lia replied

    Brooke will not keep her mouth shut while Ridge steals Thomas’ child. The guilt will eat at her conscience so bad, she would tell him if Caroline doesn’t do it first. I can’t believe anyone wants Thomas’ baby stolen from him because this makes Caroline look like a tramp.

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  14. Lia says:

    I can’t believe how many people think it’s perfectly fine for those two lying kidnappers to steal Thomas’ child. Wow, people. CarRidge isn’t that great. In fact, they downright suck unless you love home wreckers.

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    Kelly replied

    This couple is a joke!! It’s just EEEWWWWW !!!
    Ron Moss in the role was scrawny and ugly, Thorsen is pudgy and ugly, they BOTH look filthy, how could Bell paired those two??!! He is a pervert or something?

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    penny replied

    Kelly and Lia you both make me LAUGH!! Thank You for pointing out what’s so obvious. ;)

  15. Shirley Strickler says:

    I love Linsey,(Sweet Carolyn) amazing actress and I am a CaRidge fan all the way. Ridge and Carolyn have amazing chemistry and hope they let them reign as the next Power Couple of B&B .

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    Mo replied

    Her name is Caroline.

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    Lia replied

    Sorry, but Raya is the new power couple on this show, and thank God they’re back on Friday. CaRidge are sick and boring.

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    sweetautumn replied

    Caroline and Ridge is very unique couple on this show. Whether you like or not. so stop trolling

    bellabecka replied

    Her name is “Maya” not “Raya”.

    Lia replied

    Is that all you’ve got, calling someone a troll because they don’t agree with you? Grow-up, or stop posting with adults. CaRidge is a couple based on lies and betrayal. No one admires that, but immoral losers. They’ll never be a power couple on this show because they suck. Caroline needs to be written off the show, and Ridge needs to find him a grown woman, and leave teens alone.

    sweetautumn replied

    You are make deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. This is the definition of trolling. You are deliberately making those upset postings or name callings because you want to bait Caroline fans. One of the techniques that online trolls often use. drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    Oh, Caroline write off town? No LG had proven herself to be amazing actress with powerful and emotional scenes. I very much doubt B&B will release her. And Caroline is an adult. She is able to have friendly and real conversation with Brooke instead of doing the routine hair pulling, cat fight mud fight and verbal abuse. This is sign of maturity.

    Kelly replied

    Oh no, that’s not trolling, that’s just giving an opinion but as you don’t like it, you think YOUR opinion is the only good and right but people CAN’T all think like you!!
    You are free to love Ridge with Caroline and others are free not to!
    Respect others opinions if you want the same in return!!
    People here just give their opinion and have the right to do it, just like you!

    sweetautumn replied

    kelly, I found it absolutely hilarious you of all people say that. When someone got nothing reasonable to say other than personal attacks, trashing actors for their looks and demanding other people to respect? LOL I’ve seen no reason why I should respect someone who act like this. And I am afraid this is how someone behave like this in real life.

  16. Jana says:

    Why did Caroline finally come out with the truth to Ridge, and why did she go so far as to even admit Thomas is the father of her child? It’s not because Caroline can’t stand to lie, it’s because she had no choice. For weeks she was the one telling Thomas, “Ridge can never know.” Up until Ridge told her that there was no way he could father a child for her, that secret was going with her to the grave. For now she’s also willing to go along with the lie about the child’s paternity, but I predict that’s not going to end well, either.

    The actors are doing a great job though.

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  17. Mo says:

    I do think Thomas raped Caroline.

    I hope the baby turns out to be Ridge’s.

    I do like Ridge and Caroline together.

    Linsey should enter in Lead Actress and win. She’s been fabulous.

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  18. Lisanne MacKinnon says:

    I love Linsey Godfrey, but I must question if she and I were watching the same show the night Thomas took advantage of her? Yes took advantage. What kind of a man takes advantage of a drunk woman regardless of whether or not she took pills in addition to the alcohol? Why keep bringing that up? She was impaired, period! Pills or nor pills! He took advantage of her vulnerability to hurt his father and gloat to him.

    All she talked about was her love for Ridge and he acted like a Neanderthal. He humiliated Caroline and date raped Caroline, we all saw it. There was no misunderstanding. Who scripted that word for Linsey? Brad Bell? This is not the ’70′s or 80′s where the woman was asking for it or to blame. Men are sent to prison now for this. Thomas is the lowest of men.

    Why wasn’t Thorsten included in this interview? I don’t care what ‘Thomas’ thinks. His voice should only be heard in a court of law.

    If Bell is going to tell a story of consent vs. non consent he better do it from the standpoint of what was actually seen on our screens and not what he wants the viewers to ‘think’ they saw.

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    Lia replied

    You need to get a serious grip, and stop bringing a personal issue into this. If the actress and the character said she WASN’T taken advantage, then it didn’t happen. Thomas didn’t rape her! They had drunk sex, PERIOD. And Thomas didn’t participate in this interview, Pierson Fode did, and he can do that. He can have an opinion about a story that he’s a part of.

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    sweetautumn replied

    Maybe you are the one who has personal issue since you are trolling on this board without intelligent argument. I believe what I’ve seen on screen – a woman who looked miserable and devastated as hell, did not show any interests in sexual healing, one night of stand. This was the same woman who repeatedly pledged her love for another man and who thanked Thomas for being a friend.

    Also, Thomas was not under the heavy influence of drunkenness. Since he woke up with no headache and pains. Not to mention he remembered previously night which later included Caroline thanking him for being a good friend in his flashback. So he is aware of what happened at that nite and that he took advantage of her.

    bellabecka replied

    Relax here. It is just a soap for goodness sake. This isn’t going on in real life with these actors to start getting all bent out of shape if someone doesn’t agree with someone else’s point of view.

    Lia replied

    If my comments are unintelligent, then what are yours for replying?

    Callie replied

    Where did the actress say Caroline wasn’t taken advantage? Please find me the quote because I only saw PF saying it.

    Also, Caroline admitted that she doesn’t remember anything and she just decided to take Thomas at his word.

    Ridge: You don’t think he should have known?!
    Caroline: I don’t know! I don’t know. I don’t remember. I — I remember him coming to the hotel and… being a friend to me. And then I remember waking up, and…that’s it. That’s all.

    also this part

    Caroline: Ridge, please, don’t say that. Please don’t say that he knowingly did something to me.
    Ridge: That is what he did! He knowingly did something!
    Caroline: No, I can’t handle you saying that! I cannot believe that that is what’s true! You cannot say that to me, because he’s your son!

    Caroline has convinced herself that Thomas’ version is the truth because she wouldn’t be able to handle it otherwise.

    sweetautumn replied

    Look at your reply to Lisanne. “sexist and biased. Everything you wrote says you were either raped or just have a general hatred of men”. Enlighten me how this is a mature, intelligent and thoughtful reply from an adult not a 12 years old child.

    Lia replied

    Wow, and you call me a 12 year old? Was I talking to you or her? Did she ask you to defend her because she cannot defend herself?

    Kelly replied

    What kind of a man takes advantage on a drunk or druged woman : RIDGE
    The guy she’s “in love with” is that kind of man!!!

    Yes, Ridge did it to Brooke once, and HE KNEW she was on med, she told him several time to leave but he CHOSE to stay and slipped into her bed. That’s what you can call RAPE because she told him to get out and he didn’t. She said NO and Ridge heard YES, like the pig he is so don’t come defending Caroline in this SL, Thomas didn’t know and Caroline didn’t ask him to go!!

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    Ollie replied

    I agree! Ridge did more selfish more reckless things than ANYTHING Thomas has ever done. Ridge was a terrible husband to all his wives and a terrible father! He’s just having a midlife crisis. It’s so easy now for him to settle down with Caroline who is young enough to be his daughter! I’m counting on Brooke to expose the lie! The way Ridge used and abused then discarded Brooke still makes me mad!! I still don’t like the tone of Ridge’s heartless rejection of Brooke — like life with her was drama filled and her lack of integrity was repulsive to him?? Ridiculous!

  19. B&B Fan says:

    Thomas didn’t Rape Caroline. She knew what was going on & either chose to forget about it or the pills cause her to forget. They both were drunk. They both drank together.
    I don’t want the baby to turn out to be Ridge’s. He is a lousy father to the ones he already has. Ridge is way too old for Caroline anyway she belongs with either Rick or Thomas.
    Let Ridge go back to Brooke.

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  20. Josie says:

    I am a huge Caridge fan! I love Thorsten and Linsey together. Thorsten has given Ridge new life. Ronn Moss could have never done this storyline. He was great as the old Ridge, but I am truly digging the new storylines for Ridge. He has truly matured, and brings a definitely different intensity to the character that was lacking before. I also like that Bridge is gone, although Katherine Kelly Lang has to be my all time favorite, with Linsey right beside her. I am really glad Raya is off the screen now as well, but I do believe that Thomas did in fact rape Caroline, and she is refusing to accept it for what it is, much as I did in my own life for 20 years with my own baby daddy. Another father raised my child, and she was so much better off for it. This is a true depiction of rape victims, it is just not what society is used to seeing. Kudos to Brad on this. There are many sides to rape that we never see because sometimes it is so hard for us to accept what happened and even admit it to ourselves.

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    bellabecka replied

    Caroline has a soft spot for people she has been involved with in her life and I think she is afraid of what Ridge might do to his son, so she tried to say that Thomas had been drinking too and didn’t know what he was doing(?), but in all actuality, Thomas knew what he was doing when he ended up in bed with Caroline. Caroline on the other hand doesn’t want to admit that Thomas raped her and took advantage of her because the pain she was feeling was due to having broke up with the man she loves, Ridge, Thomas’s father, not Thomas. Thomas has been after Caroline ever since he arrived from Paris. His wanting to work on the design team isn’t so much to work with his father as it is to work with Caroline and get closer to her.

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    Vicki replied

    Brooke will end up finding out somehow and all heck will break loose-She will keep digging and Caroline’s guilt will eat her alive and she will be forced to tell ALL- I am hoping the baby ISNT Ridge’s. He didn’t parent ANY of the children he has now. The mothers of those children did for the most part. Ridge has always been selfish and WHO is he to judge who should parent that baby. The truth WILL come out before the baby is born. I don’t think they will have her miscarry-Its been awhile since we have had someone have a baby on the show-Wasn’t Katie the last one who made it to term so to speak? I know BOTH Steffy and Hope didn’t.

    Jana replied

    But Thomas was drinking too. It’s the truth. Nobody “knows” what Thomas knew or didn’t know, we can only project what we think happened after that kiss. Regardless of what the viewers think, the fact is that in every interview and in every scene where that night is mentioned, the show’s stance is that it was a drunken mistake.

    bellabecka replied

    Even though Thomas was drinking, Thomas wasn’t showing signs of being drunk as Caroline was due to taking Pam’s pills beforehand. Thomas knew what he was doing as he has been after Caroline ever since he got back to Forrester’s and has been fantasizing about her. This was his opportunity for her to submit to him despite she was out of it.

    Lia replied

    That’s exactly what it was, and these Caroline fans need to accept that. She got drunk, and screwed Ridge’s son because she’s a ho. He screwed his father’s girlfriend because he just didn’t care.

  21. geo says:

    That’s such bull he never raped her n I think ridge is a coward for not telling his son that he has a child on DA never the less that it’s his wife he basically lied to Caroline n trapped her in a marrige knowing his fish didn’t swim so if anyone is in DA wrong its ridge Caroline was awake n in full knowledge what was going on with her n Thomas in that motel bed

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  22. Adam says:

    This story line is just plain stupid, I enjoy the B&B, but really, you have Ridge a grown man who’s in love & married to Caroline who’s is young lady, Ridge has been around and to have the son involved in this triangle is just plain dumb. No wonder America families are so upside down (not all families), but some cause of dump stuff like this on TV.

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  23. bellabecka says:

    It would be nice to see a baby happen with Liam and Steffi

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    vi replied

    Puke no…..the first time sickened me beyond belief…..just send JMW and Steffy packing,,,,,,Maya, too!

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  24. Aj says:

    Caroline is a grown ass woman who decided to mix booze with powerful drugs not prescribed for her. She told her bestie who happens to be in love with her and the son of the man who just dumped her it was okay for him to come over. Distraught cause her boyfriend dumped her but at that moment in control of her faculties she served him alcohol. They both got drunk and were both unable to consent to sex. To top it off she was high on pills which only she knew and the morning after she cant remember. But just because she doesn’t remember doesn’t mean she didn’t participate in the sex. Mistake in the morning? Taken advantage of?
    They both used each other that night.

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  25. Peace says:

    Am a big fan of Caroline and Ridge, I let nothing distract me whenever am watching the B&B, especially when it’s Caroline and Ridge. just loving the whole twist

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  26. Patty says:

    Little Ms .Integrity, or so she seems to thinks, Caroline doesn’t mind lying to Thomas about HIS baby. How Ridge can point his finger at Thomas is ridiculous !!! Ridge has been a womanizer from day 1. He just validates Thomas’ opinion of him as a poor excuse for a father. Katie sure dodged a bullet !! Caroline and Thomas are amazing together. She needs to send Grandpa packing !!!

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  27. sweetautumn says:

    Ridge and Caroline are wonderful together. They are one of the two most touchy-feely couple on the show. They can talk about everything. They stood up and told each other about the secrets that could destroy a couple’s relationship. They never keep tab on each other. They have their lives outside of their relationship. They respect each other’s opinion most of the time. And Caroline’s certainly not Ridge’s stepford wife etc etc. These two have probably one of the more mature and healthy relationship on the show.

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    vi replied

    I agree…..Caroline and Ridge have the best relationship on the show. Steffyhas, the worst, and Maya js second only to Steffy in the sickening department. Ivy is shallow and flawed….but an angel compared to shallow, stupid and entitled Stemaya.

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    sweetautumn replied

    Ivy was cool-minded, reasonable and fair. It was just such a pity writers turned her and Steffy against each other. I hope they don’t destroy her character.

    Maya has been good since they stop making her Rick’s Himmler. Caroline and her patched thing up, this show both of their growth. I hope the show keep that up.

  28. Lia says:

    Oh wow, there Caroline was today being the perfect stepford wife, while Thomas…the man who actually made her a mother got raked across the coals. What a hateful pos that girl is. I would LOVE it if Thomas petitions for custody, and win. Caroline doesn’t deserve to be a mother, and Ridge is certain no father.

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    sweetautumn replied

    Caroline’s mixing of wine and pills – sometimes people do in real life which left her powerless and defenseless. An opening invitation to creeps, perverts and morally degradative men to take advantage of her. Did she made mistake by mix wine and meds. Yes, but that doesn’t give Thomas a free pass. What Caroline’s feeling yesterday is she deserve the punishment for making the mistake (mix wine and pills)

    What I would like to see is Ridge mentoring him, not to make the same mistake he did many years ago and also tell him about Caroline’s pregnancy. This will help him become a better man and the relationship with his father.

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    Lia replied

    She wasn’t powerless and defenseless, she made love to him. We saw nothing of Thomas pressuring her to have sex. They were laying across the bed kissing when the scenes ended that day. She was awake and kissing him back. There was NOTHING about their scenes that should lead anyone into thinking she was powerless and defenseless. As for the rest, Ridge is too jealous and angry to do any of that. He’s being a pain in the behind, and my guess it…He’ll continue to be so. Thomas gave her what he couldn’t so at which point will this ho begin seriously look at Thomas as her new love interest? Ridge is done, and he knows it.

    Ollie replied

    It is so obvious with the timing that Caroline was pregnant before Ridge attempted to get his Vasectomy reversed. Ridge is being a jerk as usual. Brooke is too smart to believe Ridge’s explanation that he had the ” V ” reversed. Look at the timing.

    I hope Thomas fights for joint custody!

    Ridge was a horrible father to all his children and all his wives. This midlife crisis marriage will be no different in the long run. I do miss Ron Moss!!

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  29. Jt says:

    Just a note the writers have turned me off of b&b . Since the killing of Allie every single character has become impossible to root for.Hypocrisy and self centered behavior never ending is just not entertaining.

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    sweetautumn replied

    I kind of agree. Killing of Ally was a mistake. The writer had to make her crazy again just to get her killed. Very sad.

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  30. Ollie says:

    I can’t wait until Bill figures out the whole mess regarding Caroline, Ridge and Thomas!!

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  31. Joyce says:

    I am a huge fan of Ridge & Caroline. They are both excellent actors with good chemistry.
    Regarding the baby there should be a paternity test done to truly know who the baby’s father is. I have a feeling that Ridge is the father. His being sterile might not been true. Why hasn’t that been dine.? Ridge should ask for that to be done RIGHT AWAY.
    I want Caroline & Ridge to save their marriage. Can’t there be one steady couple on this show?

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  32. anthony nosley says:

    the writers are old and stupid. This show has gotten too fake. I have been watching this show since 1989. This show has gotten so bad until they make you not like the actors. Caroline and gotten so stupid. I can’t believe. She use to be my favorite actor beside Ridge the Big Playa! The writers may us not even like the actors. How could you not like and love Caroline? I don’t!!! And the bad part about it, she wanted to play this role with THOMAS! KEEP THAT GUY AWAY FROM CAROLINE ON THE SHOW!!! This messes up the show. HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE THE STAR (RIDGE) not with the Best Looking Girl(Caroline) It’s STUPIDS. Are just keep CAROLINE OFF THE SHOW, I AM FIND WITH THAT, I WILL GO BACK TO MY FIRST LOVE BROOK!!!!!!

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