Talk about your daddy issues! There is plenty of drama to still play out in The Bold and the Beautiful’s latest hot plot, which finds newly married Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) and Caroline (Linsey Godfrey) faced with some potentially damaging revelations to their relationship! Since last week, and into this week’s pivotal episodes, the CBS Daytime soap opera has pulled no punches (except for the one Thomas landed on Ridge) with propelling the story forward. Here’s how: Caroline revealed the truth to Ridge that not only did she have sex with his son Thomas (Pierson Fode) in a haze (thanks to some anti-depressants and some booze), but she is pregnant! Meanwhile a few episodes back, Ridge revealed to Caroline that he had a vasectomy while in Europe. Once he realized he was in love with Caroline and she wanted a child, he tried to reverse it. Unfortunately, Ridge received bad news from his doctor. Caroline found herself pregnant nevertheless, meaning that Thomas must be the bio-dad!
And that’s not good news either, since Thomas and Ridge are virtually at each other’s throats, and this piece of ‘intel’ only rocks Ridge’s world further, and gives him more ammunition to want to further alienate his son. In a shocker on Tuesday’s episode, Ridge reveals to Caroline that he wants them to raise the unborn child as their own, and that Thomas will never know! But, will Caroline go along with his request to salvage her marriage? Can she ever feel right about not telling Thomas the truth, when she may be the ultimate truthsayer?
On-Air On-Soaps sat down with two of the brightest young talents on daytime soaps today, Linsey Godfrey and Pierson Fode, to chat about the delicate complexities that this story sets up between Caroline and Thomas, and each of their relationships with Ridge. In the end, can CaRidge’s love survive? Will Thomas find out the woman he loves and desires is carrying his child? Can this story have so many legs to it that this secret may not come out for years? Only time will tell! However, Linsey and Pierson shared with us their thoughts on playing this top-notch emotional story that has given each of them an opportunity to shine.
How did you find out about Caroline’s major storyline that she would end up pregnant, and what was your initial reaction to the news?
LINSEY: I was sitting in Brad Bell’s (executive producer and head writer, B&B) office for a visit, and I was shocked when he told me about the storyline. I was just so excited and grateful to have the opportunity to stretch my wings acting-wise. I knew this was going to be a big storyline, not just for me but for Pierson, and for Thorsten Kaye (Ridge). I think I left the office with my mouth open, and called Pierson on my way home!
To clear the air, Thomas did not take advantage of Caroline, as he had no idea that she had popped some pills, and downed some alcohol to drown the pain of her temporary break-up from Ridge?
PIERSON: Thomas thought he was making love to Caroline, and unfortunately they were both were under the influence. It was just such a misunderstanding. It’s too bad when lines get crossed like that. It sucks for Thomas!
What were your thoughts on the fact that Thomas punched his father? There are a lot of daddy issues going around these days on B&B!
PIERSON: The apple does not fall far from the tree at this point. He definitely is following in his father’s footsteps, as far as the story goes, but to that, there is a big piece of Thomas that always wanted his dad’s approval, which is why he acts out in so many different ways. That is why at this point he has lost the ability to say, “Dad, I just want you to love me.” That opportunity passed when Thomas was a little kid. Thomas is doing anything he can to get his dad’s attention, and approval. Finally, he is fed up to the brim and lashes out … hence the punch.
In the end analysis, does Thomas truly love Caroline?
PIERSON: Thomas loves Caroline and his father, and that is what is so conflicting for him. He has these unrequited feelings for Caroline that he is trying to push down all of the time.
Caroline was having such an internal struggle over having sex with Thomas. We watched her agonize about what to do, and how to handle the situation after she learns she’s pregnant, and after she learns Ridge could not be the father. Why did she finally come out with the truth to Ridge? Was she just overwhelmed with guilt? On most soaps, this first part of the secret would have taken months to come out, but kudos to B&B for taking a different tact in their storytelling.
LINSEY: It’s kind of one of my favorite things about Caroline: her genuine disdain and actual discomfort with lying. I find that so refreshing on a soap, because most of the characters are hiding secrets. I like that this character can’t lie, and how it really makes her uncomfortable. I think for her, she initially thought she might go tell Thomas first, and it did not work out that. I think she then changed her perspective and thought the first right thing to do is to tell Ridge she slept with Thomas. I love that about her. She tries to do things right.
Why did Caroline decide to go as far as she did though, and admit to Ridge she is pregnant by his son?
LINSEY: I think because after she revealed she slept with Thomas, Ridge is kind of comforting going, “OK, that’s terrible. I think we can get past it.” Meanwhile, Caroline is going, “Yeah, but that’s not the bad part!” For her, Ridge is so understanding of it – and even before she revealed it was Thomas that she slept with, but had admitted she slept with someone else – Ridge was like, “OK. We can get past this!” And she is like, “OK, but there is one more thing … I’m pregnant!” I think if Ridge had a huge reaction to her revealing she slept with someone else, I don’t think she would have told him that it was Thomas. But, because this man has so much love for her, she just can’t lie, and she feels she has to tell him.
What did you think of Ridge’s reaction to the bombshells? And what did you think of Thorsten Kaye’s performances in the pivotal scenes?
LINSEY: Ridge loses it for a second, but their story is so unique. I think their love knows no bounds … sometimes. You see Ridge freak out, and it is so interesting to watch Thorsten do things like that. You see the complete despair, and then you see the destruction of his heart in that moment. Then you also see him look up at the woman that he loves. You kind of see him internally step up as a man. It was just a really fascinating episode, where you see a complete heartbreak and you see him kind of think: “I can’t do this to this poor girl. She’s pregnant, and it’s the woman that I love.” You watch him rebuild again. For me as an actress watching Thorsten, I was just in awe of him.
What has it been like for both of you working with such an accomplished actor as Thorsten? Has he raised the bar for both of you?
PIERSON: When you are working with Thorsten, he is the kind of actor who forces everybody to be up to his level, or get out.
LINSEY: Yes, he demands it of you.
PIERSON: It’s so much fun! That’s what every actor wants … someone who is doing it and is good at it, and to stand on their shoulders and be fathered into that. I think that is such a cool process for me to be a part of it. Even just to go breakdown storylines with him, and talk about little moments that we could have, and subtle things, such as when a father and a son may have a moment, where the son is trying to say, “I’m trying.” It will just be a glance between us. Thorsten will go, “That’s the moment we are looking for right there.” He explains it to you in a way that you understand the scenes so much better.
LINSEY: I completely agree with Pierson. Every day I come to work I go sit in Thorsten’s room. We work things out. There are times where I will say, “I don’t know what this means? Why am I saying this?” So we break it down. I was already a fan of Thorsten’s before he came on to B&B. I was quite excited when they told me he was coming here. I loved him on Smash! Thorsten demands it of you to step up, and he does not appreciate it when people phone it in. The scenes you are seeing air right now were taped over a month. I was sobbing on-screen every day. Sometimes I would get in my head, but Thorsten can play me like a fiddle, and I have never seen anything like it. He knows exactly what to say, even when I feel disconnected in a scene. Thorsten will say something and change his line in a way, and I will just start sobbing. He knows exactly what to say and when to say it, and how he wants to say it. In the scene where Ridge talks to Caroline about how sad he is that he cannot give him a baby, Thorsten says, “I just wanted to have this little baby, this little monkey.” Well, that is what I call my real-life daughter Aleda. I call her “monkey”. So he knew to do it, it made me cry, and I cannot say enough about that grumpy man! (Laughs)
Recently, Thomas was having a rendezvous with Charlotte (Camelia Somers) the intern. He was badly scolded by his dad over that, and now his sister Steffy (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) has witnessed Thomas hitting on the young intern. Is this behavior just part of a rebound effect of not being able to be with Caroline?
PIERSON: Anything that Thomas does is to numb the pain, just like we do in life when it’s over something we can’t have. Right now he is trying to respect the boundaries that have been put up, and the mistakes that have been made along the way. He’s thinking “Whatever I am doing, or whoever I am with, it’s just something to fill up that void that I’m feeling.” For example: sleeping with Charlotte, or going and punching his father. He is now fraternizing with the models. Thomas is thinking he wants to run around, too!
What will Ridge and Caroline decide to do now as a couple? He has the knowledge that she is carrying his son’s child!
LINSEY: Caroline and Ridge have some very serious big decisions to make individually as a couple, and in business, because Ridge has some big issues ahead of him. He also knows at this point, Thomas does not know the truth.
Would it destroy Caroline if Ridge ultimately chooses to leave her?
LINSEY: I think it would destroy her. She is in love with him. I don’t think he could pry her out with a crowbar. But, if Ridge left her, I don’t think Caroline would ever be OK.
Caroline has made it clear that having a baby is so important to her, but at what cost to her marriage?
LINSEY: She wants the baby, and it’s important to her. I can’t tell you if she wants this baby or not, because that is part of their decision. If Ridge couldn’t handle that, it would kill Caroline in a way that I don’t know if she would ever get over it.
What are Caroline’s feelings for Thomas at this point in time?
LINSEY: I think Caroline feels very conflicted towards Thomas. I think it’s an interesting dynamic that you will see play out over the next couple of weeks. You will see her more confused and unclear, but at the same time, she just really wants to put the Thomas incident behind her.
Do you think Caroline even realizes how much Thomas cares for her?
LINSEY: I don’t. Pierson plays it in a way that he doesn’t let Caroline see his feelings towards her, which I think is an interesting choice. He knows Caroline does not reciprocate these feelings. If anything, she thinks he may have a crush on her. You see this person in pain and loving someone, and he doesn’t know what to do with these feelings. And, he is kind of confused by it. That’s been a really strong choice on Pierson’s part, because it wasn’t written that way.
What happened when the two of you first laid eyes on each other in the audition room? Pierson, what were your initial impressions of Linsey?
PIERSON: I walked into the audition room and Linsey was sitting in the chair, and I thought she was pretty chill. One of the casting directors gave me a note before I started, “Just make sure you get in her face.” Linsey said, “I need you to get in my face.” Apparently, the other guys who were in there auditioning were not getting in her face enough! (Laughs)
LINSEY: They were uncomfortable getting that close to me, and to have to try and seduce me. The audition scene was very seductive. And, I even knew two of the guys that auditioned with me as people outside of this!
PIERSON: I think we had easy chemistry right away, and it was fun. It felt easy to do the scene. I walked out of the room when she walked out, and so we chatted in the elevator, and then all the way down to the car. I handed Linsey three dollars as a bribe and said, “This should get the job done!” (Laughs)
Ok Linsey … what were your first impressions of Pierson?
LINSEY: I thought he was so tall! (Laughs) Pierson was the last one in, and he did a great job with the scene. I would say when we took our elevator ride in the building from the top floor to the bottom of the building, we became best friends. I picked Pierson up and we carpooled on his first day of work.
Linsey, have you given any thought to entering your name into the Lead Actress category for next year’s Daytime Emmys? You certainly have the material now should you decide to go that route!
LINSEY: Thank you, for saying that. I would be honored to submit myself in any category that the show would let me, including ‘Younger Actress’ if I could fake my birth certificate! (Laughs) I have been very fortunate and grateful to have the material I have this year so far, and the opportunity to play it! I have to thank Brad Bell, and all the writers, producers, the crew, Thorsten Kaye, and even Pierson! (Laughs)
The annual Leukemia & Lymphoma Society Light the Night Walk is happening on October 10th in Los Angeles, and once again you will be participating.
LINSEY: Yes! I am one of the ambassadors for it. The walk is to benefit the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, and I am a lymphoma survivor. I am excited to be a part of it since last year I had to miss out on it, because of the birth of my child. I want to continue to help raise awareness and funds for cancer research, drug development, and patient services. So come out and join me at LA Live this coming weekend!
The fact that you are even walking in the Light the Night Walk is amazing; when you think about the courage and perseverance it took to be able to walk again after you were hit by a car on a sidewalk back in February. Honestly, you have been an inspiration to many to be able to go through the emotional and physical aspects of your recovery, raising a baby, and having such a heavy workload at B&B. It’s quite impressive.
LINSEY: The reason I did not start fundraising earlier was I did not think I would be healed by now. I did not think I was going to be OK enough to do it. Now being here, and being able to be walking around, and in heels, or jumping and chasing my daughter around, and giving to other people the gift of hope, health, and time and all of that … it’s exciting and wonderful for me. Come on and walk with me, and see Pierson shirtless! I want someone one to donate $1,000 to me for every ab that Pierson has! (Laughs)
Pierson, will you walk shirtless to help Linsey raise money? Anything for a good cause, right?
PIERSON: Yes, I am tentatively scheduled to participate and walk … shirtless!
So, the drama is going to continue for Thomas and Caroline! What are your thoughts on how this story is playing out on the air, and where it may be headed?
PIERSON: I love the crazier a story gets! Ridge has something very life-changing for Thomas. It’s funny, because there was one episode where Ridge tells Thomas he loves him. Thomas has been waiting to hear that his whole life, and now it’s back to bare bones, and pushing his son away again. Meanwhile, Thomas is struggling trying to figure out what is going on, and “What did I do wrong this time?” So now not only has the dynamic changed between his dad and Caroline, but it affects a lot of other people.
LINSEY: I think what is interesting about this storyline is that you get to experience love in different definitions of the word. You get to see love between a man and his wife and their struggle, and the love between this man and his son, and then an unrequited love between Thomas and Caroline. You see how different kinds of love are, and how they play out. You get to watch a lot of variations of emotions as you watch people crumble, and then get built back up. You will really also watch the change in dynamics of this couple… CaRidge!
So, what do you think about the Caroline and Thomas storyline? Do you hope that Caroline keeps the baby and raises it as Ridge’s child as he has asked her to do? Do you want Thomas to learn the truth sooner than later? Are you rooting for CaRidge to stay together? Do you think Thomas will always be in love with Caroline, no matter what woman he may be with? What have you thought of the performances of Pierson, Linsey, and Thorsten Kaye in this top story on B&B? Share your thoughts in the comment section below!