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339 July 24th, 2015 BREAKING NEWS: Ron Carlivati OUT As Head Writer & Shelly Altman and Jean Passanante IN at General Hospital!

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Major breaking news this afternoon in the daytime landscape! Ron Carlivati is out as the head writer at ABC’s General Hospital!  The scribe, who was the WGA winner in the daytime drama series category earlier this year, and has created the stories in Port Charles for the last 3 years has been replaced.

Rumors have been fast and furious this week that a change was being made behind-the-scenes, and they have been confirmed as true. Carlivati’s replacements are the former head writing team of The Young and the Restless, Shelly Altman and Jean Passanante! Jean and Shelly starts their duties on August 10th!

In a statement from Vicki Dummer, Executive Vice President Current Series Programming ABC, said: “We are pleased to welcome back two esteemed writers to our ‘General Hospital’ family,” said Vicki Dummer.  Shelly and Jean’s combined talents and experiences promise to continue the show’s legacy of compelling storytelling that will resonate with our impassioned viewers. We’re delighted with what they have in store for the show as they continue honoring the rich, diverse environs of Port Charles.”  

Passanante recently returned to the General Hospital writing team after being let-go by the CBS sudser when Chuck Pratt Jr. came on to the scene in Genoa City.  Jean has served also as head writer and co-head writer for As the World Turns and All My Children, and has received four Daytime Emmy Awards, six Writer’s Guild awards and five GLAAD Media awards.  As for Altman, she was also co-head writer at General Hospital at one time, and written for One Life to Live and Another World.

So, what do you think about the news that Ron Carlivati is out … and Jean and Shelly are in as head writers of General Hospital?  Good move … not a good move?  Surprised?  Share your thoughts below!

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  1. mfarris70 says:

    I’ve been a fan of Carlivati’s work since OLTL, so I’m sorry to see him go. I suspected it since Passante joined the team again. I’ll give it a shot with the new writers, but I’m not a fan of their past work on GH and other shows. Carlivati’s writing may not have been flawless but he was instrumental in saving the show from cancellation and for that I am grateful.

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    Timmm replied

    I wont knock you if your a fan of RC’s BUT the writing has been absolutely terrible!

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    mfarris70 replied

    Umm, that is the very definition of “knocking” me. The enjoyment of art is subjective.

    lellingw replied

    Knock, knock. I don’t know how bad the other two are. What is wrong with a good story? The smaller, younger characters on GH are just terrible and have terrible storylines. I’m hoping the new Dillon and Paul stay on, they are very good. Now give them something to do.

    davlestev1 replied

    LOL..he blocked me on twitter which must have been eon’s ago since i tried to tweet and thank him for the surge..oh wait..that’s not what i was trying to do..LOL..but i wasn’t nasty to him by any means..he just did not like dissatisfaction with his storylines and that’s his choice..but yeah..ok..now??

    kathy replied

    I totally agree with you! Loved his work on OLTL.

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    Elizabeth replied

    Unfortunately RC didn’t realize that people who watched GH didn’t want to see OLTL. He wrote for himself instead of the GH audience. And those of us who DIDN’T watch, much less “love” his work on OLTL, hated what he did to the show we no longer recognized.

    Alan replied

    Based on Passanante/Altman’s work on Y&R I think we can look forward to a second hour of The Chew by this time next year….

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    Draya Simmons replied

    Altman’s work, she did the Delia thing and it was great, and the Chew is good also.But anything has to be better than that mess Ron was throwing out there!He was brining dead people back left anf right and he should have brought that dead kid back, that was gross, and why Liz got enough kids no one see already!

    Alan replied

    Actually Altman came in at the end of the Delia story and “great” is not the word I would use.

    As for Ron’s writing, I personally enjoyed it — never a dull moment. As for bringing back little Jake, I don’t think “Liz has other kids” is a good rebuttal. Helena stealing the boy and allowing everyone to think he was dead and that Luke had killed him was a decent way of ret-conning a big mistake the show made years earlier. The boy’s return puts Liz and Sam on a level playing ground for Jason’s affections and in the right writer’s hands could generate years of story. Unfortunately I don’t think Passanante and Altman are the writers for the job….

    Marco replied

    Stopped watching 2 & half years ago. Without a doubt the worst writing maybe in the history of daytime. He has brought it to record low ratings and on verge of cancellation.i watched for 25 years and thought no writer could get me to tune out… RC did. Dummer took way to long to make this change.

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    mary replied

    I think Ron is the best and most creative writer in soaps and especially GH. 3 years ago Gh was to be cancelled. Frank and Ron turned it around within a year. No mean feat. Not everyone is going to like everything they do. As long as Guza is not writing some dark writing with kids dying, I was happy. Now I think this is the beginning of the end of GH. I hope GH continues. Rating go up and down, just like stocks.

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    Tristan replied

    Yes, Mary, and three years after that it was just tanking in the ratings again, perhaps to be cancelled yet again. RC had one good year in him. That I will grant. However, he hadn’t the chops to sustain it and his story choices began to demonstrate disdain for GH, its history, and its fans. Perhaps because this kind of over-the-top praise blinded him to his obligation to write a show called “General Hospital,” which had a half-century legacy that he continually trashed, either by design or because he lacked conceptual insight. And his immaturity in calling out fans on Twitter…suggested he was just out-of-his depth. No one invested in the job they are paid to execute spends that much time trying to prove his superiority over fans (and critics) by warring with them over Twitter when he should be working to figure out why not having stories make sense is a problem for those very fans and critics. That is the mark of a kind of insecurity that can interfere with doing a job properly. Again, his 50th anniversary year was fantastic. Loved it. But a complete inability to sustain that quality suggests a much more shallow talent than his cheerleaders seem willing to grant. GH has been in huge huge trouble. As the writer for the show, he must take the blame for the decline, as he reaped the praise for its successes. But, in the past year his failures far outweighed his successes. The ratings proved it. Thank goodness ABC cared enough to try to save the show he once saved, and then was systematically destroying, perhaps not by design but by a clear inability to handle the pressure of the legacy and meaning of “General Hospital.” ABC made the right decision and I look forward to actually supporting the new writers and my GH!!!! RC had his chance. It is over, and this fan looks forward to a return to the actual GH and and a move away from Three Stooges style silliness that was killing its brand as penned by Mr. Carlivati.

    Harry replied

    Oh man…I am tired.
    But what that guy (Tristan) said. Tristan nails it yet again.

    Robin replied

    I agree with you Mary, I watched GH along with AMC, and OLTL when I worked the night shift. I started to get bored with GH and I never missed OLTL, and I thought Ron and Frank did a wonderful job, and when OLTL got cancelled I was not going to watch any soaps ever again, but when I saw they were going West to GH I tuned in and did not miss an episode since, but I hope it does not tank. I know that many people love Young and The Restless, but that is their option, my Grandmother watched Y and R, and I know all the characters, but I find it to be a boring soap with the same story lines over and over. Well, everyone has a right to their opinion so you just got mine. Good Luck RON, and Good Luck General Hospital!

    Aden replied

    Uh Ron killed quite a few kids during his GH tenure…He killed Starr’s baby Hope, Tea’s baby, Sabrina’s baby, Maxie’s first baby. We can also count Rafe. He was just a kid. Selective memory is great folks, but no one took GH to more grim places than Ron.

    Draya Simmons replied

    Sorry, but Ron was terrible writer, and he seems to think its all about what he wants, and its not, He messed up OLTL and day one started destroying GH, He destroyed Luke&Laura, Tracy ok but it was all Luke with Laura!Sorry but evry year Ron have been on GH he came with that mess he sis on OLTL.No need for ME/RH and Kiki. The cast is totally to big and his stories make no sense!I see Frank V. dodged the bullet,but he know now that he is not bullet proof,like they thought!

    Elizabeth replied

    ABC DID NOT EVER intimate that GH was about to be cancelled. It is SO disingenuous for people to say Ron saved GH…. GH was saved before Cartini was hired. They were just the next in line.

    minpinco replied

    I agree with Tristan on this.

    john replied

    I agree Mary. What a stupid mistake!

    robert replied

    RC spent more time on twitter than writing good stories. I hope the new writers trim the cast

    Draya Simmons replied

    Maybe we can get a storyline and less stuff off scene! I wish they would undo the return of the dead kid who donated his organs to another kid,that is gross, had nothing to do with anything!I hope they move the storylines and stop the dragging from year to year!They need to down size the cast.Like to see Ava back and do something with Julian!Bring back Spinelli and Robin!

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    Timmm replied

    Where I come from, “Knocking” someone means criticizing someone. I said I wouldnt knock you if you enjoyed his writing. I did not enjoy it. In other words, I respect your opinion although I dont agree with it.

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  2. Scott (ATWT Fan) says:

    GOOD RIDDANCE!! This is the best news to come out of General Hospital. The ratings all-time low clearly has sent a shockwave to ABC, and given Ron’s recent silence on Twitter, we all knew he’d be OUT of a job faster than you could put together the half-assed scripts he’s been doing. Jean and Shelley did great work at The Young and the Restless, and I know that their work at GH will be equally great. Hopefully some stability comes back to the storytelling, and that we get some core stories and character development happening. Drop the schtick and recurring back-from-the-dead storylines that Ron seems heavily invested in constantly making happen. I only hope they’re able to undo this Jake storyline, can write Sonny out and bring back the almighty and powerful Ava Jerome. Jean wrote for Maura West on As the World Turns, and knows her strengths as an actress, so I hope we see more depth in the character come this fall. And I hope that the campy-style storytelling is done and over with. I hope to see strength return to the soap. This is a positive movement, let’s see this change happen soon!

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    Timmm replied

    There just had to be a change. Pure and simple..

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    Matilda replied

    Passanante wrote for Maura and Howarth on ATWT. Even with better writing, if GH is the Franco and Ava show, viewers will not come back. GH needs to be GH, something that Cartini promised to do, but then pulled endless baits and switches.

    Yes, the writing is campy and nonsensical, but even if that changes and the writing gets better, GH will not reach it’s full potential unless it gets back to GH core characters and families, gets rid of many of the characters and actors that came with Cartini, and integrates the one’s that stay better.

    I can live with Ava hanging around as the villain she should be, not the joke wearing a wig. But Franco and Nina just need to go. They can not be taken seriously, we’ve seen too much, they can’t be repaired and the actors just don’t have the supposed fan bases that people talked about. None of them do. People watch GH to see GH, not actors who used to play characters on other shows.

    If you get rid of RC, but keep all the damage he created walking around, it won’t work. GH needs a reboot that takes it back to its roots.

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    Harry replied

    Tis true, Matilda. I was a long time fan of Roger’s but I cannot bear to watch his goofy interpretation of Franco. It’s because I know how good he can be which makes watching him so unbearable and that is how most OLTL fans feel.
    You’re completely right in asserting that just because they’ve changed captains, the ship will continue to sink if they don’t get rid of the baggage.

    CeeCee replied

    I love your posts, Matilda. You have the talent of simplifying “things”.

    Shay replied

    Here, here, Matilda! Although I’m sending good wishes to the new ladies at the writing helm and hoping for the best, a MAJOR housecleaning still must be commenced before any real improvements are evident. Until the abysmal likes of Sappy, Nina, Val-Chops Jordan, and even Ric, Molly, TJ, Alexis, and other deadweight are tossed overboard, then all the good scripts in the world won’t save this sinking ship. First and foremost, we need characters about whom we care…without that basic ingredient, no soap can survive, even if the stories become better and more engaging. Adding in some old favorites in place of the RC-invented interlopers also wouldn’t go amiss….let’s see the returns of Diane Miller, Frisco, Noah, even Jeff Webber, and definitely, Robert Scorpio!!!! (Plus more frequent glimpses of such beloved peeps as Alice, Max and Epiphany….) Oh, and please make Hayden’s recovery brief and her departure imminent….I’m already gritting my teeth at the thought of having to endure that heinous hussy again!

    jb44 replied

    Well, I for one, love Nina and especially Franco. If they were to get rid of Roger Howarth, I woul no longer watch.

    tracy replied

    Let’s get the stories back to the hospital and core characters

    Angela Lemke replied

    I agree! Diane was amazing and where has she been?? Max, Milo and give Anna a good storyline, hopefully bringing Robert back too! Right now, every single day is the Franco/Nina saga which I detest!! There is no reason for either of them to be on screen. No ties to anyone in PC and no real pleasure in watching them. Ava was at least interesting before the stupid wig. Silas was minor entertainment but I don’t care if he stays or goes. We need to see the real GH back. Write for the characters that we the fans love and stop with the stupid guest celebrities!

    Reagan replied

    Was certainly time for a change! I’ll say that Ron had his strengths, but it seemed the further along he went the more I disliked his work. I especially did not like his attitude on Twitter. I’m having trouble remembering the new writer’s story lines from Y&R but am optimistic that a fresh take will be good. Unfortunately, you can ALWAYS count on firings & new characters when new writers come on. New writers always want to create some of their own characters as it’s more royalties for them. Sometimes that’s a good thing. Sometimes that’s a bad thing.

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    Erick replied

    “Write Sonny out”…. Wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen….

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    Scott (ATWT Fan) replied

    It nearly happened during contract negotiations; him going to prison was the potential of an exit, until at the last hour, he re-signed for another year.

    Erick replied

    Fair point, Maurice could certainly choose to leave and he has… I just strongly doubt that they’d ever write him out…. Especially how his true love (Jason) is back lol….

    Elizabeth replied

    What he did for Tony Geary’s exit story was nothing short of abysmal in my book. He deserved to be fired for it.

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    Tristan replied

    Elizabeth, absolutely agreed about what he did to Geary and this exit. An atrocity. A probably intentional atrocity, hence Geary’s completely valid disdain for “the writer.” Yes, if he were to be fired for anything, this was it! I wish Frank, whom Geary respects, would actually bring Tony back for two weeks down the road and write him off respectfully! This leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as though RC purposely spit on Geary’s farewell.

    Elizabeth replied

    And perhaps even get a goodbye scene with Laura, as it appears even that isn’t in the works for this one.

  3. Ric says:

    Thank God!

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  4. MEG says:

    LMAO .JEAN N SHELLY MESSED UP Y&R.

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    Timmm replied

    So here we go, bashing two new writers who havent even written ONE episode! Give them a chance!

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Putting Altman aside for a minute, Timmm, Jean Passanante has been a headwriter on enough shows now for people to have formed an educated opinion. Occasionally, it’s true, somebody shows up who simply seems to “take to” one show better than another and shows surprising ability in one job over another (Lorraine Broderick’s special affinity for All My Children, for example), so maybe that will happen here–but I’ve been watching soaps 40 years now, and a bad HW tends to be a bad HW. And Jean Passanante’s writing on As the World Turns was absolutely dreadful–even more unwatchable, I often found, than Guza’s version of GH. So unless Altman (whose work I am not familiar enough with to judge) can make up for Passanante’s weaknesses (and in a big way), this is not good news, and that’s independent of how anybody feels about RC (as I’ve said before, I’m somewhere in the middle). Think things can’t get worse? Don’t bet on it, folks. They very well may just have done so.

    davlestev1 replied

    No timmm here’s the truth of Altman/Passanante and why they were dumped..this is the gist of their reign as HW’s of Y&R…The beginning of the end of Adam..chloe was stealing billy’s sperm..a doll full of diamonds..Jill was kidnapped..Mariah was supposed to be a double for Lilly and not Cassie..smh..the tattoo lady..AUSTIN..SUMMER..Ian Ward..Sharons daily visitations by Cassie..the whole neil/devon/hillary/leslie debacle..Neil went blind and etc..it was a mish mash of a mess because no network bites the bullet and brings on fresh talent. Remember Michael Malone for OLTL..This has to stop with this roundelay of writers laughingly going from one soap to the next and steaming the same pile of diry clothes without even bothering to freshen them up. Hogan Sheffer was a reminder of a new type of Douglass Marland when he came on the scene..Daytime is an integral part of television the entire globe over..not just here..you just can’t toss the genre to the dogs and make like the whole of TV primetime was never influenced by the on going structure of drama instead of closed end episodes. All shows today rely on the soap model of storytelling..or you can forget about long term investment. Our shows need and deserve a rejuvenation as if it’s the first show to air…in 2015..not 1934…soaps are not and long ago left the radio and 50′s 60′s era..please adapt..at this rate Days may generate viewers for a month or so..but fade back into oblivion..Gh might be embraced for a month or so..viewers will again get restless..come out of the dark age of soaps as an embarassment and revive the remaining four with an updated model..or forget it…these writers are in their 60′s ..these stories and method of telling them are firmly in these writers laps and it has to change..or just cancel them all and move on..we have UK soaps on Hulu..we have youtube…something has to change because the state of our soaps are heading into a talk show food filled diy future.

    CeeCee replied

    Right, Timmm. At the risk of sounding repetitious, I have never paid much attention to the writers. I don’t read any of that “stuff”…. Does not interest me who writes what, as long as the storyline is fulfilling.
    All I can say is that something’s “gotta” give……we can only hope that GH will take us to a new direction….a positive one that will be somewhat campy, but, credible and realistic, at the same time. I, personally, would like to relate to the characters and their ‘normal’ and ordinary lifestyle…..not expecting cadavers to resurface from any given ‘freezer’……or ‘Flukies’ lurking in a character of the writers’s choice of the day. How’s that, Timmm? LOL. I just want Jason, Nina and Ava to have a LIFE and a sooooo deserved, meaty storyline, as themselves, before I leave for Europe. Arrivederci…..Au revoir!! LOL.

    OOPS replied

    Hey dimwit. What do you think of these 2 horrible women writers now? They are killing GH way more and faster than RC ever could.

    BYE BYE GH! It was nice knowing you.

    su0000 replied

    Yes, they mess up Y&R good!
    They were not up to Y&R standards and both were fired/let go ..
    While they there the stories went on for a year.. very loooong drawn out boring stories / Music Box story for one..
    How quickly people forget how terrible Y&R became ..

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    Harry replied

    The SUOOOSTER, fan of campy, disjointed, over-the-top, plot driven writing has spoken! Now any writer The SUOOOSter does not like is okay by me.
    I, for one, liked Jean’s writing for Y&R. It was good, character driven stories.
    Yes, the Music Box story was abysmal and disappointing but Jean was stepping things up a bit and Y&R was suddenly becoming interesting when they canned her.

    CeeCee replied

    As far as I’m concerned, su, Y&R is dragging, regardless of the ratings. This show is unrecognizable. I am sick of Jack and the way he is being made to look the victim. Jack is not a nice guy….never was. He is no different from Victor, I say! Anyone who has been watching Y&R for a few years is well-versed in Jack’s past and his lack of integrity. The dialogue and storylines are no better than GH’s.
    DOOL has come a long way.

    Timmm replied

    The music box story was the worst! Yes they may run GH in the ground but SOMETIMES change is necessary and it COULD be good. Lets wait and see these next couple months.

    Avelina from Santorini Greece replied

    I agree!

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    Bonnie replied

    They were not a team there was long. Shelley came over from Gh

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    KansasGuest replied

    I was wondering about that, too. IIRC, didn’t Genie Francis, Maura West, & Billy Miller all leave Y&R under these writers? I know it’s not always the fault of writers for actors choosing to leave. Still, if they didn’t know how to use their talents on Y&R, how are they going to write for them on GH?

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    KansasGuest replied

    Forgot to add Michelle Stafford to this list of Y&R expats.

    Mary SF replied

    No most of them left during Josh Griffith writing tenure and most likely because of the JFP coming in at the same time– nothing to do with the writing

    Elizabeth replied

    The actor departures were the result of JFP being brought on as EP. In Genie’s case JFP immediately fired her, wanted to show her the her vindictive power trip was still a factor from their brawl in 2002. And Billy Miller and Michele Stafford departures also were less about the writing than the business end of things (EP related).

    don77 replied

    No! Most of them left during the phelphs/Griffin Era!

    Reagan replied

    I’m glad to see Ron go but have no idea what new writing will be like. Wish Claire Lebine (sp??) was brought back. She co-created Ryan’s Hope and from what I remember, she was part of Robin & Stone’s AIDS story. Mentioned earlier… the thing that always makes me cringe when new writers come aboard is the new characters. Every new writer creates new characters while we are usually screaming for our old fav’s to get story or return all together. Some new characters work out great. Most don’t.

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    tracy replied

    claire labine is exactly what this show needs. gh was at its best during the wendy riche and claire labine days. it was truly general hospital.

    Ashleigh replied

    Ick. I’m so sorry, GH, but maybe that’ll keep them far from Y&R for a while!

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    davlestev1 replied

    oh and CARMINE

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    davlestev1 replied

    #nomoremob..there have been so many guns and gunshot wounds on this show it’s become de rigueur the must have accessory..playing off the same theme because it’s what ABC wants..these shows have become mind numbing to say the least…oh what’s the point of more typing..by January 2016 one soap will be headed to oblivion…point blank

  5. elm51 says:

    WOW!!!!
    i didn’t think this would actually happen but the writing has been horrible for quite some time………………………

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    KansasGuest replied

    Be careful what you wish for. I will reserve judgement for now. But, with Y&R fans saying, “Ouch! Good luck,” the previews don’t look good. I admit I like the fast pacing & broad humor of GH. That’s why I don’t like the other soaps. They move too slow for me. If Y&R fans, who are used to a slower paced show than I, are saying this new writing team slowed down the pace of their show too much, I’m going to get impatient very fast.

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    Nick D. replied

    Yup.

  6. June W says:

    The two writers that made Y&R drag on are now the writers for GH? Good luck with that ABC.

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    su0000 replied

    I know!!
    frightening!!
    they are the worst of the snore writers..
    looooong boring go nowhere stories, so bad that Y&R brought Pratt in to try to save it after Jean and Shelly ruined it …..lol this is crazy!

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    Tristan replied

    NO su0000. Crazy is what RC did to GH. It is tanking in the ratings for a reason. Y&R was NOT tanking in the ratings. You just don’t like measured, adult drama, as your comments make clear. I suspect you’ll soon be gone with the wind like RC.

  7. Dan says:

    Can someone help me out?? not familiar with eithers work. will this be good or bad for GH?

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    Scott (ATWT Fan) replied

    I enjoyed Jean’s reign at both As the World Turns and The Young and the Restless, so I have faith that both she and Jean will do good work on GH in their term as head scribes.

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    su0000 replied

    If they both were so good why would Y&R fit/let them go lol
    because Y&R ratings were falling and falling ..
    Most were falling asleep watching Y&R under them .. sigh

    Scott (ATWT Fan) replied

    Su, it’s simply because their stories moved a bit too slow-paced, though, their writing was fantastic.

    Timmm replied

    GOOD! One reason, its a change. RC was killing the show! Lets see what these two can do and not judge them for their work on Y&R.

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    Jimmy replied

    I didn’t watch ATWT, but Y&R became very dull and boring under Shelley and Jean. Neither one seems like a good fit for GH, especially pacing wise. GH needs a jolt with its story pacing, but Shelley and Jean wrote very slow, boring stories at Y&R.

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    CeeCee replied

    Perfect word, Jimmy…’JOLT’.

    Satan replied

    I’m not familiar with Jean’s work. Shelley was briefly a co-head writer of GH in the Garin Wolf era, and she was beginning to clean up the mess he made of the Spencer family, and other idiotic stories like the mute blonde girl who was squatting at Windemere while the Cassadines were all out of town. No telling what direction she would have gone, because she only had about three months before the OLTL regime was forced on us all.

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    CeeCee replied

    I am in the same boat as you, Dan. I was never one to care who wrote the scripts, until the craziness of Fluke and Fack started….so, I ask your same question.

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  8. Mateo says:

    I, for one, am going to miss the style and humor of Ron Carlivati. Even though the other two writers coming are seasoned professionals, they don’t have the freshness that Carlivati had. His sense of humor was conveyed in each of the characters and they never seemed trite or like every other daytime show..

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    Harry replied

    These writers will step back and let the actors fuse humor into their dialogue. Ron has Alexis and Jullian repeating lines from Seinfeld.
    If want to watch Seinfeld, I will find reruns on the television, not on my soap.

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    KansasGuest replied

    Humor has always been the big draw for me w/GH. The ABC soaps always seemed to excel in humor, with Erica Kane on AMC, the Buchanan boys on OLTL & an entire line of quick-witted, sly antiheroes on GH (Luke, Robert, Frisco, Duke). I’ll wait to see what the new writing team does for the characters of Franco & Nina, Madeline & Rick, Dr. O, Silas & Ava, Brad, Lucas, & Sam & Jason (who have developed a nice banter between them) before making any judgements.

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    Elizabeth replied

    Well Mateo, that makes one of you. Or maybe even five. But the rest of us are extremely appreciative and relieved.

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    patty replied

    Not true Elizabeth. Many of us loved Ron and the SL’s. I personally have watched #GH for over 35 years because of the intrigue (mob, spy’s etc) It sets it apart from the other smarmy “love in the afternoon” dreck. I’ll miss Ron and his injecting humor and campy scenes into the mix. What I really want to know is how Vicki Drummer, who clearly knows nothing about soaps made this decision. And btw, Guza is the one who sent #GH down the tubes. Carlivati had a hard job bringing it back to life. Very sad. I’ll miss him

    Abruzzfan replied

    Mateo – count me as another that agrees with you!

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  9. Sprite says:

    These ladies are total pros. They made Y&R actually watchable after many years of it feeling like a chore. GH remains in great hands going forward.

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    KansasGuest replied

    Does anyone think it’s a coincidence Carlivati is leaving w/Geary? Geary’s exit was announced over 6 months ago. But, do you think Carlivati got his walking papers a while ago, and just kept it quiet? Or was this done as quickly as the the announcement?

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    Elizabeth replied

    Carlivati was fired as the ratings were in their twelfth week of declining to record lows. The atrocious exit story RC wrote for Tony was the last straw.

    Mary SF replied

    I don’t know but the storytelling got really bad over last few months that it wouldn’t surprised me if we found out they told Ron they would not be renewing his tenure with the show come August a while back. It might explain how shabby the work got over the last few months. I mean Ron always had his flaws, but the work for the last while has been really sub par. It was like after the 52 anniversary show he just gave up, so yes I think it is possible they told him months ago about this. It has been my experience that people rarely get fired in any business without any inkling that it is coming. Also Frank is his friend so I would surprised if he didn’t get a heads up about this at some point. But it is all speculation because with all these types of announcement the public never fully gets the whole truth, just a lot of spin.

    Rebecca1 replied

    I think it’s just the opposite, Mary SF. Corporations play dirty most of the time. They expect employees to give two weeks notice if they intend to leave, but spring it on the person they’re letting go. Happens all the time.

  10. Jamesj75 says:

    One down, one (Frank Valentini) to go…

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    Scott (ATWT Fan) replied

    Frank is not the problem at GH; it’s always been RC. Frank is a brilliant executive, and I think with the proper head-writing regime he’ll be able to work more effectively, especially now that I see some casting cuts happening.

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    Jenn replied

    Frank’s job is to keep things within budget & on schedule. He’s doing that. I think people are too wrapped up in the “Cartini” idea that they forget these are two separate individuals.

    Harry replied

    Well, Frank is certainly more affable but he contributed to the problem by hiring every Y&R actor he could get his hands on.
    I am not excusing Ron’s poor writing, however, it could not have been easy trying to write stories for such a bloated cast.
    I saw call I 800-Got-Junk? And haul away Nina, Ava/Denise, Ric, Donna Mills, Valerie, Kiwi, Morgan, etc. etc.

    Michael S replied

    Recommendation for character cuts:
    - Valerie Spencer
    - Rosalie Martinez
    - Kiki Jerome
    - Silas Clay
    - Kyle Sloane
    - Sabrina Santiago

    Would like to see the following recasts:
    - Michael E Knight as Ned Ashton
    - Christie Clark as Dr. Sarah Webber
    - Christian LeBlanc as Dr. Kevin Collins
    - Alexandra Chando as Kristina “Krissy” Davis {Corinthos}
    - Texas Battle as Dr. Tom “Tommy” Hardy
    - Merrin Dungey as Dr. Simone Hardy
    - Stephanie Gatschet or Val Bloom as Serena Baldwin
    - Robert Newman as Jimmy Lee Holt
    - Hilary B Smith as Celia Quartermaine

    Would also like to see the return of Robert Scorpio, Dr. Robin Scorpio-Drake, Dr. Britt Westborne and Sean and Tiffany Donely

    Satan replied

    Frank is definitely part of the problem. The bloated cast – including too damn many castoffs from other soaps immediately in lead roles at the expense of actual GH characters – is as much to blame for the decline of this show as the horrible writing. And writers aren’t involved in casting, so firing Ron isn’t going to resolve that part.

    Elizabeth replied

    Totally agree Satan. Frank is responsible for MUCH that ails GH. Including the PP debacle. That said, he has to be realizing that his OWN job is on the line, maybe he’ll rethink his casting approach at this point.

    Also have to say that (I think) Frank is the one who has wanted a faster paced show at GH. Perhaps with better writers we can have the best of both worlds – stories that move along, but also ones that make sense, integrate around one another, and don’t exude cartoonish camp.

  11. Lou Piikes says:

    I enjoyed a few of RC’s storylines. But the lack of story for Molly and TJ , the teen scene hurt the show. Rosalie’s secret and Nathan’s paternity issue should have been frontburner storylines. And Brad’s secret should have been the “A” story instead of “D” storyline.

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    Timmm replied

    Thats it Lou, all these tidbits floating around and no conclusions! RC just wanted our jaws to drop and then the other four days were suppose to scratch our heads!

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    David replied

    No disrespect meant but having stories featuring Molly, TJ, Rosalie, Nathan, and Brad would have done nothing for the ratings. The show needs to feature characters people care about.

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    KansasGuest replied

    My thinking EXACTLY. Molly & TJ are no Luke & Laura, Frisco & Felicia or even Robin & Stone. Nice actors. But, they don’t draw in viewers. Except for Nathan. Mr. Tall, Dark & Handsome is clearly meant to be a Cassadine, and a foil for Nikolas. So, they need to hurry up and make it so.

  12. Peter says:

    Very good move, Gh is in trouble. They need better storylines and please bring back Alan Quartermaine and Emily. Rumor is they are alive together locked in a room. I hope this is true. Celebrity dirty laundry reported that Ron was fired yesterday. This is wonderful, that Ron was let go.

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    Timmm replied

    Stuart Damon is reportedly in poor health. I doubt he would return. I would love it, though! Emily would be great and would get Nick straightened out!

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  13. maddiehayes says:

    I was excited when Ron C. was named headwriter. I hated Guza’s focus on the mob. I loved what RC did with OLTL in its last few months. I loved the fact that OLTL characters were coming to GH. However, I was LIVID over the hamhanded way he broke up Natalie&John and Sam&Jason, so he could put Sam&John together. And killed off Starr’s fiancee and child so he could put her & Michael together. I should have seen the writing on the wall then. RC has his agenda, and he’s not subtle about it. He makes what he wants to happen HAPPEN, whether it makes sense from a character POV or not. That’s it in a nutshell. His stories are plot-driven, not character-driven. There have been moments of greatness, and I really loved it when he brought back Frisco & Felicia! Didn’t care for the way Frisco left town, but hey, that’s no different than what other regimes have done to him. I loved all the returns of old favorites, in spite of the fact he didn’t give them the great storylines that were due them. At least he brought them back! Faison, Duke, Lucy, Kevin, Robert, Anna, even Richard Simmons, LOL .. Guza would have never brought them back. He would have never resurrected the Nurses Ball. Yes, RC had his moments, he created Naxie and Lake, my two favorite couples on the scene right now. He brought back Baby Jake! But he ended up ruining everything when he decided to put the focus back on the mob. And mobsters. And sex. And hookups. And camp. Instead of love, romance and core families. I am hopeful that, with women at the helm once again, we will put the focus back where it belongs. On General Hospital and the NON-MOB families of the show.

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    Rose replied

    I had forgotten about the car accident that killed Starrr’s fiancée and child. That seemed so unnecessary and heartless. And then GH writers turned her into a Kiki. Not sure either actress could make this role work based on what they had to work with from the writers…maybe that’s why so many want to see Kiki gone.

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    maddiehayes replied

    Those OLTL characters worked because they already had histories and were already fleshed out. But when RC kept the actors but gave them new characters, it was very forced. Todd as Franco? He’s had a field day with it, and he can be very funny, but seriously! I love Michael Easton and Roger Howarth, but I don’t care about Franco or Silas and especially not Kiki!

    KansasGuest replied

    Wasn’t the genesis of Kiki trying to make work for a contract actor (who is paid while not on set, but not permitted to work anywhere else) that wasn’t permitted to play the character she was originally hired to play, and somehow keep her opposite Chad Duell? That lawsuit did put GH in a pickle because they had 3 highly paid contract actors they couldn’t put onscreen. It’s interesting how quickly Ava gelled as part of the cast, which is probably a testament to Maura West, and an indication that the writing staff writes better material for adult characters than young adults. GH writers don’t write good stuff for college-age characters IMO.

    Rose replied

    Kansas and Maddie…yesterday while watching Michelle playing Nina, I caught myself thinking , “is this really the high powered Phyllis from Y&R?” I hadn’t watched her before, but from what I can see about the Phyllis role now, Michelle really went into Roger, Michael, and Kristin/Kiki (?) character land when she came over to GH.

    All we really know about the demise of OLTL and AMC, and the crossover of some actors to GH or Prospect Park, is that it has been messy and complicated. Everybody has some blame…ABC, Prospect Park, the actors union.

    In the meantime ABC has the rights to two shows they axed that are probably in a safe deposit box in some expensive lawyers office, actors/writers are out of work, and fans have been left with nothing except more incessant reality shows. And they come and go frequently because the afternoon viewing audience hasn’t embraced them like they did the soaps.

    Oh I know, the soaps were more expensive than the unscripted and clips from youtube some reality shows are now using as talking points. And the audience wasn’t growing…but at least it was a built in, loyal audience in the dog-hours of the afternoon.

    Enough of that…just hope the new writers give GH a new boost.

  14. Timmm says:

    Ya see, everyone thought Tony Geary was off his rocker! He wasnt being a diva, he only spoke his mind because he could! All these other actors are afraid for their jobs. That is not a criticism on their part. Line up peeps and apologize to Mr. Geary! Have a good weekend.

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    Harry replied

    I didn’t think he was off his rocker–I thought Geary was spot on in that exit interview.
    And you can only imagine that Sean Kanan is thoroughly enjoying this news.

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    Shay replied

    Amen to those thoughts, Harry! It truly is like Christmas in July with this news….such a shame it had to come as a “parting gift” for Mr. Geary. His Luke deserved a far better send-off!

    su0000 replied

    Well, sheet happens lol
    I knew Ron was out his twitter went off/last tweet 7-16 .. after nothing..
    Anyways;

    One Life to Live from 1992 to 1996. In 1996 she was promoted to the top position of Head Writer, only to be replaced in 1997.
    (5 years- 1 year head writer)

    1998, at which time she was made Co-Head Writer of the ailing soap opera Another World. Passanante wrapped up the show’s 35-year run in June 1999.
    (one year)

    1999 Passanante’s contract with All My Children expired/not renewed in 2001, and she was replaced by Richard Culliton
    (less than 2 years)

    CBS’ As the World Turns in 2001, where she served as Co-Head Writer (second in command to Hogan Sheffer) until she was promoted to Head Writer in early 2005; she continued in that role through the show’s 2010 cancellation.

    hmmm OK–
    If she wrote the Y&R Music Box story and the other huge snore stories at Y&R, then I’m frightened lol
    She was let go and replaced by Pratt who has upped the ratings..

    Ohh well… time will tell..
    Perhaps the Jean and Shelly team will be good or very bad as when with Y&R..

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    su0000 replied

    Also–
    one problem..
    RC was/is in New York and seldom on set in CA / GH ..
    that was not an ideal situation..
    I always was and am a Ron fan, he never put me to sleep as Jean and Shelly did before they were fired from Y&R..

    Reagan replied

    I know Claire Labine has been out of the soap writing world for awhile, but I wish they would have brought her back. Her orginal concept and approach to Ryan’s Hope was great. She did some very memorable stories for GH during her time there. I remember reading an interview of her’s where she recalled how much fun she had writing the comedy stuff for Louis & Ned… which I really miss! She also WANTS to be back working in daytime.

    What about Gary Tomlin? I’m only familiar with his work on DAYS, but it always seems like he wants to save DAYS. So I think he would bring that same approach to GH, if he were available.

    Rebecca1 replied

    I’m with you on Geary, Timmm. I was lTe to respond but I posted last nite and today on TG’s interview. Loved it…and is candid views.

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    Rebecca1 replied

    I am soooooo fed up with attempting to correct my typos! I think the auto correct on my iPad is possessed!

    I was “late” to respond… And his, not is, candid views. Sigh.

    KansasGuest replied

    Did you read Geary’s interview in TV Guide? Best comments I’ve read in a long time. Loved his blunt honesty. I enjoyed watching him over the years, and am grateful to Carlivati for giving him so much rich material to play this past year as his swan song. If you ask me, RC should start writing for cable, HBO or Netflix. His type of writing be greatly appreciated there.

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    Ces replied

    Not everyone! I loved Geary’s interview and agreed with him.

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    Tristan replied

    Tony’s interview was TRUTH. His problems with “the writer” are probably why “the writer” purposely wrote Luke a dreadful send off. Kind of an F.U. to Tony for daring to care about quality writing and call out dreck.

    Ces replied

    I agreee Tristan. A pathetic send off for Luke!!

    CeeCee replied

    Not I, Timmm. I’m a Tony convert, remember? I wish I could have had a little more time watching him in action, as Luke.
    In the midst of it all, I never thought of him as a divo…..someone actually called him a Prima Donna (should be, PRIMO UOMO) Was he ever one? I never got that impression……A diva? I do not find Anthony Geary effeminate at all. Is he a DIVO? I don’t know if I should believe everything I read.
    If truth be known, Anthony Geary could care less what is thought of him, at this point. It changes nothing. I am sure he gave his work his all, and then some. I truly believe he has earned all the benefits and accolades given him. He should be proud; and, I do not think it is fair of us to give him such a pathetic send-off. I disliked him with a passion because of Fluke. But, even I was not very kind…he was playing a part. I do get carried away, sometimes. LOL. I wish Tony well. He will be living in the land of my ancestors…who knows, Timmm…I may see him sooner than later.

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    Timmm replied

    Your right CeeCee, he doesnt care what any of his critics think or say! Regardless of the negative backlash, those who pointed fingers will be the same who one day want Lucas Lorenzo BACK in PC! Fluke was frustrating, for sure. I did focus on the acting more than the story. Some will pick apart all the lose ends and point to the fallacies but I just took it in stride. I rarely let these soaps rattle me. I watched to be entertained. TCB baby! PS: Tony lives in Amsterdam and one of his favorite things is he can walk around freely in his hometown and he rarely gets a second look or people will just say hello and go about their business. So, you may have the pleasure of meeting him some day. PS II: Give him a hug for me!

  15. robert says:

    RC had to go. The storytelling at GH has been horrendous,and the Luke exit has been a joke. After months of collapsing demos,and then the Geary interview, was tprobably the last straw for ABC. I do question if Altman and Passanante are the right people for the job. I felt their stories at Y&R were boring,they were good at romance however. They start writing August 10,so their stories should start airing right about when the new broadcast season begins. Their are major problems at GH that need to be fixed,starting with the cast. Franco,Nina,Denise,Kiki and some others need to go. The last two writing regimes of Y&R are now writing DAYS and GH. Daytime feels like a revolving door of the same people going from door to door. I would like to see some fresh blood for a change. We will see what happens

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    Jp replied

    I agree with you. It is a revolving door of the same writers. I don’t think fresh blood will be coming in since this is a dying genre. I think ron is a good writer. He makes those special moments magical and I dont think other writers do. Most of his work on oltl I loved. And I think he helped save gh from cancelation but I think he ran his course on this show. I think his downfall came when he killed off AJ quartermaine. Then brings back duke just to kill him again. Makes no sense. Hopefully the new writing regime will focus on those core families and start to cut down on their cast. I still have alot of confidence in frank valentini to bring the gh we love.

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  16. Nananes says:

    While I never like to see someone lose a job, I also was not a fan of the “campy” style of storytelling that Ron seemed to favor. I hope the two new HWs will return heart and soul to GH, will have better continuity, depth to characters, longer scenes so that viewer investment is allowed to happen…the list goes on. Good luck to Shelly and Jean…I hope they succeed in steering GH in another hew direction. As a fan of over 50 years, I want to see GH continue and be great!

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    Rose replied

    Very gracious!

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  17. Wendy - Vancouver says:

    Next? YR? Hope so.

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  18. Jimmy says:

    This is not surprising. GH’s ratings have been spiraling downward for a while now, and the writing is hugely to blame. The Fluke story took WAY too long to rap up, as is the exit story for Tony, which should have happened months ago. This final “adventure” story was poorly-conceived, poorly-written and very convoluted. I enjoy having little Jake back, because he never should have been killed off in the first place, and the acting was superb as always by Tony Geary, Jonathan Jackson, Genie Francis, et al. But the rest of the story was pointless.

    The Jake/Jason reveal is taking WAY too long to come, too. It’s coming up to a year that Billy Miller has been on the show, and the truth still hasn’t come out. So many people know, and truthfully, I don’t even know why no one is spilling. Lucky just found out and should have told Jason the truth, but instead he left. Why? Liz has kept this secret for months, and now that little Jake is back, she’s still keeping it! Why!? Also, are we to believe that the only reason Nikolas wanted ELQ was for money? And why is HE still keeping this secret?

    There’s also the Denise/Ava story, which needs to end ASAP. I don’t care how they do it, but keep Ava on the show and wipe her criminal record clean, so this Denise crap can finally end. It was fun for the first 5 minutes, now it’s beyond annoying. And are we seriously to believe that Morgan hasn’t realized Denise is Ava, even after they slept together?

    Then there’s this new story between Lulu/Dante/Valerie, which is also contrived and ill-conceived, because of how stupid every character is acting. Lulu lied, Dante went full-throttle revenge, Valerie was all too happy to play along… Now Maxie is blaming herself for not stopping it, and Nathan has agreed to hide the truth… it’s all such a mess.

    There are also so many characters that have such little story, or are just not needed. I would be thrilled if GH gets rid of Valerie, Kiki, Nathan and Sabrina. And as much as it pains me to say it, because all of the actors are great, the characters of Franco, Nina, Silas, Leisl, Madeline and Sloane all need to be written out. They serve no purpose and are taking screen time away from characters who should be front and center, like Tracy and Monica.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m very glad Ron and Frank came to GH and saved the show from cancellation, but Ron’s firing has been a long time coming. The last year on GH has been full of ups and downs, mostly the latter. His ideas were creative and fun at the beginning, but when all those masks started, then the cryogenic revival nonsense, the Fluke craziness, the mob war which killed Duke, and now Jake returning too… it all reeks of poor writing.

    But I’m not too confident with the incoming writers. Why would ABC hire Shelley and Jean? Did they not see how slow and boring Y&R became with their writing? The one thing you can say about Pratt is that he rejuvenated Y&R with energy and excitement after Shelley and Jean turned it into a snooze-fest. I don’t think these writers were the right hire, and I’m worried about what GH’s future looks like.

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    Ces replied

    Amen Jimmy, you said it perfectly! I would LOVE to see some housecleaning too. Would love to keep Genie on and trade her for a handful of characters starting with Kiki. Im not a fan of recycling writers from show to show but I’ll give them a shot and see what they clean ip first. Eluzabeth needs to get What is coming to her; let’s start there!!

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  19. Nic says:

    First, I admit I came back to GH upon the 50th special, and had hoped Ron and Frank would really develop s/l with the vets. I was sorely disappointed and the drop and rewrite of stories history was appealing. It’s a soap but too many people brought back from the dead, cartoonish writing, over bloated cast for no reason, etc. I don’t know these writers, so I will wait to see if I hear that vets are back w real story lines. Lets be honest, many of the original daytime watchers when GH was in its prime are the ones who will tune in if there beloved characters are actually on screen!! Anna, Felicia, Scotty, Lucy, etc, so much history to play and to be able to bring in their children to have a balance…and bring back Frisco please! Now we have a show!

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  20. Harry says:

    Hip, hip hurray!
    Now, these co writers have a big mess to clean up.

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  21. Kolby says:

    Honestly my prayers have been answered lol! I loved gh back in 2011 & 2012. I’m really hoping that the new writers do good by Sonny and Carly and get back down to the basics of what a soap opera is.

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    tracy replied

    sonny and carly need to go

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  22. robin Hersey says:

    She killed my beloved ATWT. She filled it up with actors from ABC soaps and left legacy characters in the dust. She didn’t even write an exit storyline for Eileen Fulton. Jean PassTheSalami SUCKS!

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  23. nancy dillingham says:

    Interesting. I am so very sorry that some writers didn’t come on board sooner so that they could have kept the Luke and Laura love story intact.
    BTW, I found Genie Francis’ farewell post to Tony Geary very interesting also. In it she says directly to Tony: “I hope you can find a way to be proud of the work you have done.” For me, that says it all.
    I think that’s what we’ve all been trying to say. If Tony believed in the character, he should not have violated it–or devised some heavy-handed tactics with TPTB to violate it. And those PTB should NOT have succumbed to his demands. He was obviously tired and too close to be objective; otherwise, the fans might have been less divided on their affection for Tony Geary. I have often posted my dismay and disappointment at the way TG was allowed to ride the character “off the rails” in the last several years. The brass at ABC would not have these low ratings to face had they cared more about keeping GH’s legacy intact and thus have kept the most loyal fans that were there in the beginning, kept holding on hoping for more, and who finally threw up their hands at the (gag!) so-called Fluke storyline and the touted 52nd anniversary show which was the last straw for the most loyal fans of the unique, funny, sensitive character that Luke Spencer was written to be, and developed by a then-caring, obviously less cynical actor.

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    lellingw replied

    That’s the funny part of the redemption. Luke was a very moral good guy so how did he become a bad guy who beams his mother with a baseball bat? I’m shocked that the police mistook her death for appendicitis. That baffles me still. What Geary was trying to portray was Gloria’s vision of Luke as a troubled character who might have gone very wrong in life. Laura was portrayed as his humanity and the person who steered him away from the bad and brought out the goodness in him. So the only possibility for his redemption is to return to Laura.

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    Beth replied

    Well said.

  24. pinevalleylover says:

    Yes Ron’s GH right now is not great. Parts are unwatchable. But this man saved GH from cancellation in 2012. He saved our show. We would not have GH right now if not for him. We’d have Good Afternoon America. So yes it was time for a change but Carlivati is to be thanked to some extent. As for Jean and Shelly… they wrote for GH during Ron’s peak on the show so hopefully they will remember those stories and expand GH to a better show. Shelly was there until just after Jason’s death and Jean was there until Robin’s return home to Port Charles. Those were great times for the show. So on behalf of all GH viewers I hope Jean and Shelly clean up the storylines and tell good stories. Lastly, get rid of NINA, FRANCO, KIKI, VALERIE and other useless characters that viewers will tune out for when they are on our screens. Give us the characters we want to see. That is all!

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    Harry replied

    I am so tired of people saying that Ron saved GH. This is simply not true. The brass at ABC saved it by not canceling it and they named Ron as head writer after the canceled AMC and GH.
    Had they named someone else we still would have GH.
    But I do agree with the rest of your post.

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    Elizabeth replied

    EXACTLY. THANK YOU FOR SAYING SO.

    su0000 replied

    Harry..
    yah well, I’m tired of hearing of a 30 year old wedding/ Luke and Laura’s wedding ;)

    Tristan replied

    Thank you, Harry. It is the RC fan club in its last ditch effort to canonize someone who was clearly out of his depth. RC gave us a really special 50th year. I applaud him for that. He hadn’t either the talent or temperament to sustain that quality. The proof is in the ratings. He needed to leave.

    tracy replied

    he did not save this show. i wish people would stop saying that

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  25. mark says:

    I am shocked and love Ron but I think its time for some change in Port Charles or it wont be around much longer! I am so shocked though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  26. DW says:

    It bothers me that ever since this news broke, people have been taking to any website, Facebook post, or Twitter to bash Ron & gloat over his firing. Yes, there’s also been praise and well-wishes, but the majority of what I’ve seen is negative. Many people may not have enjoyed his writing, fair enough to have that opinion, but in the end, this is a man who just lost his job – publicly. That can’t feel good. Anyone who’s ever been fired knows how it feels, but to have the entire soap press and fans alike, commenting, celebrating, lamenting, etc., has gotta sting. I for one, liked his writing and his willingness to engage with fans on Twitter. I am sorry to see him go and will miss his brand of storytelling. His love of soaps was legendary. I also feel for him personally to have to endure the endless commenting that will ensue over the next few days till the story dies down and a new one takes its place. I know, he’s a grown man and will move on, this is just a bump in the road. In the meantime, I wish him all the best and hope to see him down the road on some other show. All this to say I wish people didn’t feel the need to bad-mouth and pile on in the face of someone else’s misfortune. Sign me “Pollyanna” ;-)

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    kathy replied

    You are so right!I totally agree with every word you said!

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    Harry replied

    Ah, now I feel bad. DW, you’re such a buzz kill.
    Kidding, but I do appreciate your sensitivity. Maybe RC will use the time to write that movie script I bet he’s had teeming in his mind all of this time.
    He will be okay–don’t worry.

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    Claire replied

    exactly. I wish him the best. I just started rewatching GH and DOOL. GH needs work but in comparison to DOOL, its head and shoulders above. Hopefully the new writers can keep the ship afloat.

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    Elizabeth replied

    Ron was quick to use Twitter in a really arrogant fashion.
    Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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    su0000 replied

    People were horrible to him on his twitter..
    He held back, politely for the internet..
    If it would have be me I’d of slap more than few basher up against the wall but I’m not as internet polite as Ron :)

    Tristan replied

    Elizabeth you are so right. RC might have done himself and GH favors by spending less time trying to prove his superiority via Twitter, and more time demonstrating his superiority by writing FOR GH and the fans he so disdained. His immaturity — mark of a shallow, insecure talent — did him in while almost doing in GH.

    Abruzzfan replied

    DW – I totally agree with you. Thank you for standing up to the anonymous – social media bullies!

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    tracy replied

    he should have wrote better gay stories. he made felix look foolish. felix should have gotten milo not the fat woman.. also lucas and brad were two ugly sex addicts.

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  27. Barbara says:

    No one should have been surprised.

    Would have preferred new/fresh blood.

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  28. Phil says:

    I am excited to see what they can write for my two favs…Maura West and Finola Hughes!

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    aria replied

    amen to that!

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    Robert Seganti replied

    Are putting on a ,black dynel wig ,a preposterous hackneyed accent ,gum chewing and scenery chewing your idea of good acting?Silly stuff like Martha Byrne as Rose on ATWT but far less well
    executed.

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  29. Rebecca1 says:

    I’m really surprised! Haven’t been following any behind the scenes intel…lol.

    Fingers crossed that these two writers, who I’m not familiar with, can maintain and/or improve GH. There were great things Ron did for the soap…but somehow he always dropped the ball. And killed AJ. And Duke.

    Wishful thinking but I hope they bring back the vets for good this time…and although many are tired of the resurrections I’d love to see the return of the aforementioned recently deceased!

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  30. David says:

    This is great news that Ron is gonen. The writing for the last year has been bad so any change is good!

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  31. penny says:

    This Merry Go Round with the same writers playing musical chairs is annoying as #ell! Why don’t these soap network honcho’s invest in some “NEW” talent that isn’t afraid to rock the boat. All this mob crap, mind altering and dead bodies rising is played out!

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    richard replied

    Seriously!!!!! Stop playing merry go round and bring in some new fresh blood to the genre. Some of these writers are old and recycled!!!! Where is Hogan Sheffer?? Lol

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    Ces replied

    i agree.

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  32. kmayne says:

    It always amazes me that the remaining soaps seem to play musical chairs with soap head writers. I agree that Luke’s farewell story line was less than stellar. He deserved a better send off. I am familiar with both new writers but haven’t both writers been let go from other soaps for what ever reason, Is there really no one new that can step into role of head writer?

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    kathy replied

    It’s always been this way. The writers, EP’s, actors-they all soap hop.

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    aria replied

    i’ve wonder about the recycling of writers and producers of soaps, maybe we all assume that anyone can write for the genre, i’m surprise of the lack of new talent, wish is clearly the problem soaps have, i’m sorry RC loss his job, i have no idea how things play out behind the scene and what he’s being held accountable for, you always hear that stories have to get approve by the higher ups so whose really responsible for the crap that makes it on the air ?

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  33. Anacarrie says:

    I can’t tell you how happy this made me and I stopped watching soaps after the cancellation of OLTL and AMC. I tried to give GH a chance but was so upset as well that they messed up JaSam. Sure in soap world, couples break up but they did it for a stupid reason. I love Michael Easton but to pair John with Sam simply because they used to be vampires together? Kelly Monaco is not the only actress or character that he has chemistry with; for that matter he had chemistry with Florencia Loziana but was it too much to ask for him to be true to the characters? I don’t see Sam moving on so easily from Jason nor do I see Jason abandoning her the way he did over something that was beyond her control. It’s not at all that I was rooting for John and Natalie but I do agree that John would not just up and leave her like that especially not his son which he went nearly a whole year without. The things we loved about all the characters integrity and personality was rewritten to force John and Sam together. I just felt that once AMC and OLTL wrapped up their stories; they should leave it as is. If OLTL stayed on, Todd & Blair and John & Natalie would have broken up anyway; that’s just how soaps roll. And it would have been anywhere from 2-5 years before they got back together like they made Nora and Bo wait 10 years. But to destroy John’s history with his father and concoct that crap? And I was no fan of Port Charles but think of all the Caleb and Livvie fans that got screwed over because he wanted to re-write history! Even Steve Burton said things that let us know that he wasn’t happy; not just because of his family. If they accommodated him, he would have stayed. I miss Steve; Billy Miller is a great actor but I will always be partial to Steve. I hated Starr and Cole but I still didn’t like how he killed her child; what was the point of Cole getting out of jail and faking his death only to be killed anyway? He killed the reboot with those stories; clearly Prospect Park had a lot of crap to work through but they had little work with anyway. So good riddance and maybe next time, he’ll care a little more about his stories instead of the contrived mess with Jake and other old character he brought back that to be honest, no longer have a place on the show. And don’t let me get started on what he did to Franco! SHEESH!

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    kathy replied

    It wasn’t his fault OLTL or AMC was cancelled. It was because of Brian Frons (sp) . If GH could have kept the OLTL characters, it would have been a much better situation. Roger Howarth plays Franco more like his Todd character than James Franco’s Franco. I just hope we don’t have any more of the soaps cancelled!!

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    Anacarrie replied

    I never said it was RC’s fault that OLTL or AMC got cancelled. Soaps have lost a lot of popularity; it isn’t the same as it was when I was growing up. There’s a different audience and these days; folks don’t like dragged out stories. I expect it should be a few months before a storyline wraps up but he has always dragged out bad stories or came up with stupid “back from the dead” scenarios. Yes, it’s a soap but it is not science fiction. And then after he destroys characters and past storylines, he writes some quick little makeup scene. So I hope GH gets news great stuff and will continue to last.

    Stephanie replied

    Anacarrie, I was one of the OLTL Fans that followed ME, RH and KA over to GH and quickly stopped watching once they started destroying their characters. I HATED McBam and always knew JOLIE would be endgame. With the PP fiasco we fans were not able to see that happen and it was terribly disappointing and you know what the actors knew it too. RC can and did write some amazing stories. He also wrote some shtick and alienated too many viewers. The stories on GH now are awful from what I’ve heard. Why keep doing that if its not working? And another thing, Valentini is aware of what is being written , he also bears blame for the current state of GH.

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    Anacarrie replied

    Stephanie, I was a OLTL fan as well and I did watch GH when the OLTL characters first joined. I’ve watched GH in the past in particular because I liked JaSam. I also liked Anna, Patrick and Robin, Maxie and Lulu. But as the stories went on, I was completely aghast at the destruction of not only the characters but the history of the characters. All soap characters at some point face a little destruction but to change John’s history with his dad; concoct the craziness that John RAISED Cole when we all know good and well that Cole was at least 16 when he met him and that whole business with Jason abandoning Sam? And for the record, Jolie was a good couple but I was speaking more so of the damage he did to GH then to OLTL because I try to be objective. He hurt the history of OLTL and jacked up GH. I agree with Anthony Geary’s take. I also think that FV is part of the blame but I also think that FV is a good producer. I think he went along with too much nonsense but that he is good as a producer. I do know that RC is capable of good writing; he was on the head writing team for years at OLTL and wrote some good stuff but it seems that after he won the Emmy for the “rape-mance” which I didn’t like; he felt he could do no wrong. But that is my speculation. In the end, we’ll never fully know what goes on behind the scenes. But I do recall Michael Easton making a statement after OLTL was cancelled to the effect that you can’t keep bad stories going on for a long time. And I agree. At the end of OLTL; you could see that ME wasn’t playing John the way he usually did. He lost his dad; had a baby but he was really stiff. His best scenes came later with Liam and Natalie of course but even he was a shadow because as much as I loved OLTL, the last year was not at all its best and I blamed FrankenRon for that.

  34. Tami says:

    Sorry to here someone lost their job

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  35. kathy says:

    Frank & Ron were great together on OLTL and I loved their stories. I also have enjoyed most of the GH stories. Yes, they were dragged out too long but one was due to AG back surgery and recovery. Jason story has been a long time coming but no matter who the writers are, there are always ups and downs, I will stick by GH through thick and thin as I believe any fan should. I find it strange how many are criticizing these two women for ruining Y & R when everything I read about that show blames JFP and now Chuck Pratt. Chuck Pratt wrote for GH at one point, too and he has said he doesn’t care about he characters which I think shows on Y & R. I feel bad for Ron as I would for anyone who gets let go from their job. I just want all of us fans to be able to watch the remaining soaps and keep them on the air.

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    su0000 replied

    I will miss Ron!

    Seven months back-

    February 16, 2015:
    “General Hospital” and their writers our congratulations, as they won this year’s WGA award at Saturday’s ceremony for best writing in a Daytime Serial.

    Thanks Ron.. You did justice to GH..
    You brought in new viewers and got the numbers up near 3 million..

    Ron honored vet history .. He brought vets back even if for a short stint I loved that.. He would make mention of past stories and characters…………../

    The team of Jean and Shelly do not do history I would not be surprised if the Q’s were eliminated by the dual team, and they will without a doubt bring in new charaters of their own, they truly are not up to the challenge of keeping GH alive..
    Jean and Shelly were kicked out to be hauled away by the #1 soap Y&R and GH picked them up, sigh ..
    (there was a reason they were fired / numbers plummeting) Pratt has brought the numbers back up..

    Jean & Shelly could be good or it could be very bad..
    Neither has a longevity record with any soap and always have been let go :(

    LOL .. I’d bet Michelle and Billy are thrilled to be with the two again ahhha!
    yah can run but you can’t hide, they will fine find you / poor Billy and Michelle and others who ran.. lol

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    Elizabeth replied

    Michele and Billy left because of Jill Farren Phelps, not because of the writers.

    Bart replied

    Shelly & Jean did a great job @ Y & R – Chuck Pratt sucks!!!

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    su0000 replied

    Pratt has brought Y&R up and up !!
    He need to undo the plummeting ratings, the downsprial from Jean and Shelley’s poor writing of long boring stories that did not keep the viewers,,
    Since Pratt took over Y&R has greatly gained in ratings..

  36. Robert Seganti says:

    Only in the executives suites of the broadcast networks is failure rewarded.The revolving door of headwriters on the handful of remaining shows is pure idiocy.A writing team destroys a show and drives it off the air and soon get hired to ruin another show.Passanante is a hack with a capital H.Pratt who hammered the nails into the coffin of AMC is now killing Y&R.Carlivati is clever and talented guy who inherited a depressing mess at GH and actually with Valentini saved it from extinction.OLTL with Carlivati’s stories was running on all cylinders when one of the stupidest of network executives-Brian Frons- (and they are a stupid breed)killed it when it actually had the highest ratings and the most credibility of the 3 ABC soaps.Carlivati may not have been a good fit at GH but he is more in the class of Claire Labine or Henry Slesar than the hacks boring audiences with idiotic storytelling.Y&R is unwatchable,Days is laughable B&B celebrates what?California freedom?Depravity?Such a shame to see our beloved genre so demeaned and degraded by bad,boring writing.

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    Elizabeth replied

    As someone above said, Cartini did NOT save GH, ABC had decided it would NOT be cancelled and THEN brought in Cartini.

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    Robert Seganti replied

    Yes,they gave the new team the opportunity to save the show.And they did.
    The two “new” tired,re-cycled hacks will boring you soon enough.

  37. Janis says:

    Thank God.. Love love love GH but the writing has been going down for a long time now! New blood new ideas Yay

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    su0000 replied

    Also..
    this past week with ”couples” has been very good..
    Ron just need time to pull out of the Fluke stuff..
    GH that past days has rocked!! and will continue to rock up for the next upcoming month under Ron..

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    Tristan replied

    Ron is history su0000. The ratings did him in. Glad he is gone.

  38. Allen saint james says:

    Camp is amazing when written well and based in high emotional stakes. He started off strong and then starting running out of ideas. I loved that he brought some of the action adventure storytelling back and I’d really love to see that come back full circle. There is room for all kinds of story telling on Gh and action adventure is one of them.

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  39. Satan says:

    Na na na na
    na na na na
    Hey Hey Hey
    GOODBYE! (and good riddance)

    Now ABC needs to make an ultimatum to Frankie:

    Cut the OLTL pets and the other useless newbies and make this show GENERAL HOSPITAL again (not some OLTL/Y&R hybrid sewer) or you can hit the road too.

    This show is seriously wounded without Tony Geary. Cartoon characters and dragonshit plots aren’t going to save it.

    Finally…. is anybody else laughing at the irony that killing off Jake ended Guza’s career…. and resurrecting him ended ReRon’s!

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    su0000 replied

    For Jake to be resurrected it had to be done/ok’d by the suits of ABC..
    Jake needed to be hired and paid for, it was an OK for the resurrection..
    Having Jake back had nothing to with Ron being let go, it was Ok’d..
    Ron is in New York and rarely on set in CA,,

    His Fluke story should have been killed when Tony was medically out for 6 months, a mistake but Tony went on to win his 8th emmy from that story upon his return..
    The anniversary story, black n white was very powerful!!! It will give Tony his 9th and last emmy ..

    There are other circumstances that lead to Ron being let go..

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    Elizabeth replied

    Yeah, the ratings. And the abominably lame exit story for Tony Geary. And the fact that, no matter what they try, RoHo is stuck in a horrific character that the audience despises. Just off the top.

    su0000 replied

    I love Franco!
    I could watch him everyday, as could others :)

    Tristan replied

    RC was too shallow a talent to sustain his real success with the 50th year. And when fans and critics called him out, instead of writing the show, he wasted his time on “mean girl” Twitter feuds. Perhaps had he kept his mind on his actual job, he wouldn’t be leaving and the ratings would not be tanking.

    Timmm replied

    Black and White=9th Emmy win!

    Abruzzfan replied

    SU – I agree that the”The anniversary story, black n white was very powerful!”
    The Fluke story was dragged out too long due to AG’s back surgery. ABC should have given RC two more months to turn things around.
    I think that most of the audience loves RoHo and MStafford. I don’t think he should have killed off AJ and Duke. He should have let them go off on a trip.
    The two new writers wrote snooze-fest material at Y&R. When they killed Delia, the ratings plummeted. That is when I stopped watching. Finally with Pratt, the ratings are up even though he show is ridiculous and unwatchable.

    CeeCee replied

    I love that song, by THE GLENWOODS, Satan. Good thing you left out “Kiss Him Goodbye”. LOL.
    I agree with most of what you said. But, I would like for Roger to stay. He brings much sardonic , albeit strange comic relief to some of the dismal fare we have been served. I do not want to lose that madness; which is so uniquely new Franco…..and, Michelle Stafford…..no, no, can’t take her away from me. Later.

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    Timmm replied

    I hope they reboot Roger and Michelle. Roger as a Cassadine and Michelle as a Q!

    CeeCee replied

    @Timmm.
    Hiyeeee. That sounds good to me, Timmm. As long as they stay put, I don’t care in what way, shape or form.

  40. Michael says:

    Hopefully Valerie gets shown the door along with Ron.

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  41. Mary SF says:

    Well I am shocked, but as a fan of Y&R, I can tell you a change in a head writers will not necessarily help the show– for every fan that will be thrilled with the changes there will be an equal number that will hate the new writers.

    As I said before a good soap story is a bit like making love, and Ron was a lousy lover because he always wanted to get to the climax, and skip the foreplay. He was too focus on the outcome, the shocking twist, the unexpected surprise, the ironic turn that he couldn’t see that he wasn’t arousing his lover, us the viewers, he was just fumbling along. He never allowed himself to believe his lover was in pain even when we made that very clear to him. He didn’t seem to care and went on doing what he was doing, thinking he was being the greatest lover in the world and we were the problem because we didn’t response like we were suppose to. So I am not sorry to see him go.

    But I will say after experiencing Altman and Passanante style of writing over at Y&R, I already know some viewers at GH used to rough and fast style of Ron, will not like the slower and gentler pace of these two ladies.

    I’m not sure hiring writers another soap recently fired is the best choice for GH right now, but I do know the way it was going a change was necessary, so only time will tell if this was right move or not.

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    Andrew replied

    This is a good analysis of Ron’s treatment of fans – we’re the problem for not recognizing his brilliance. it’s also a case of “you’ll like what I give you” rather than “how can I make great choices for the fans so that they’ll stay?” It’s incredibly selfish. Ron does not look at the big picture.

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    nancy dillingham replied

    Well said, Andrew!

  42. Amy says:

    Wow. All the way from Amsterdam and no longer under GH contract, TG still has major influence. LOL. New writing team: Please, for the love of God, do not pair Laura with Scottie again. Find her someone new.

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    lellingw replied

    Tristan Rogers should come over from The Young and the Restless since he’s no longer being used. Laura and Robert? And then Anna too! Mary SF I think you are very right. The last two episodes have had very good Luke scenes. RC has no sense of tension, anticipation or build up.

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    Harry replied

    Laura and Robert? Love the idea.
    For the life of me, I cannot imagine WHY Tristan Rogers has been so woefully misused by both GH and Y&R. This man is a friggen gem.
    I also see Laura with Silas. Now before anyone says Silas is too young for Laura, keep in mind that NLG (Alexis) is a a good 10 years older than William deVry (Julian). Please, do NOT pair Laura up with Scotty. After all she’s been throug, Laura deserves so much better.

    lellingw replied

    Tristan and Genie played divorced spouses on The Young and the Restless for a short time. Never found anything with scenes between them except a music video but would have loved to see them. The missing in the video looked hot.

    lellingw replied

    Kissing in the video! Spell check strikes again

    CeeCee replied

    Oh, heaven forbid! Genie/Laura and Tristan/Scorpio as an item? Golly Gee….it was tried on Y&R….she is just too delicate, beautiful and young for him…please, not another father-figure coupling!

    Lellingw replied

    Love Robert and Laura when they were dating. Luke wasn’t much of a father figure, he acted much younger and immature than she did most of the time. I never got to see the Young And the Restless scenes so really don’t know how they played out.

    Timmm replied

    Y&R wouldnt even let Tristan come over to send off Luke! Robert and Laura would be a terrible idea. They were ex’s on Y&R and had NO chemistry!

    CeeCee replied

    Lol. Genevieve(Genie/Laura) and Colin (Tristan/Scorpio) hated each other on Y&R. So, I guess I have been influenced by that. I cannot see them together. I do not know how they meshed on GH, Lellingw. So, I’ll just shut up now…you got me. LOL.

    lellingw replied

    They weren’t romantic per se on General Hospital and then they were too. Their dating was based on their mutual interest in Luke but they liked each other a bit too. Robert loved to drive Luke crazy by telling him that he intended to take Laura away from him while Luke called him names like Kangaroo Breath and Koala Face to Laura. Laura always reassured Luke that she had no interest in Robert but it drove Luke crazy. He told her he wasn’t husband material and their kids would be beaten up on the playground.

  43. Reagan says:

    My question is– what characters/actors will be the first to get the cut? We know it’s a part of new writers. They have to clear the canvas to make room for the characters they wan to bring back AND the ones they want to create. I love having vets back. I recognize that you do need new characters from time to time to breath new life into new stories, but I hate it when new characters suddenly dominate the story line– especially when those new characters do not have links to the canvas.

    I’m for their being more Spencer’s out there… but don’t make them boring. Especially when Bobby hasn’t had a story since….1901?? ;) I move Maura West but this Denise story… geez. And it was like Ron tried to make GH the Silas/Ava show for so long, giving them the bulk of story time. Anyway– that’s my ranting!

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    lellingw replied

    Bobbie is a great character and she deserves something. No wonder they HAD to put a clip of Luke and Bobbie on for the audience who has no clue what the brother/sister team meant to each other. That’s pathetic while they have Lulu running around demanding to know if her cousin kissed her husband and if she kissed back which is really pathetic.

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  44. Steph says:

    I hope they stop drawing out story lines for YEARS!! That is what I hate even more than bad writing!!

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    Alan replied

    Um, soaps are all about the waiting for a payoff — stories that wrap up in two hours are called movies.

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    su0000 replied

    Jean and Shelly are notorious for loooooong boring no plot go nowhere stories that go on forever..6mo-year stories..
    Why do ya think they were fired from Y&R, they were putting everyone to sleep, ratings dropping because people went into snooze mode ..

    To this day some of their stories have not ended..
    Who hit Delia for one.. lol ohh geezuz

    Mary SF replied

    Thank you Alan– in this instant trending one minute and not the next kind of world I find a lot soap fans have lost their ability to wait for the pay off. But to be fair a writer has to make the waiting interesting if they don’t it does feel like they are dragging the story along rather than building the suspense to the reveal.

  45. aria says:

    i don’t even know how to feel about this,i’ve always found RC very polarizing, he had a combination of great ideas, but very badly executed, he’s like the kid who started out with great promise but was horrible at finishing them.. He made Anna clueless, How come Anna hasn’t figure out anything regarding Robin for example. And the list goes on and on, so i sure hope the two new headwriters are paying attention to what fans are upset about , i’m not familiar with their work, i have no idea what to give them credit for, but please fix some stories that need to be explained.. first one is where the hell is Robin? Give Liz back her heart and compassion, i want her with Jake/jason but not if she has to lie about it. i also hope the cartoonish aspect is gone, and lets keep the cast as is, i’m not a fan of big turnovers and the cast is great, its the writing that wasn’t measuring up…

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    tracy replied

    they need to dump rick, madeline, nathan, kiki, silas, franco, ava, sonny, sabrina, morgan, alexis, julian and brad and lucas

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  46. Beth says:

    Bad move. They should have kept Ron and made one of those two a co-headwriter. With these two at the helm I fear I will fall asleep watching GH.

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    su0000 replied

    ok-
    Y&R the #1 soap ousted/fired the two- Jean and Shelly –
    then GH ABC drags them in to save GH when Y&R got rid of them for killing their soap LOL..

    This is good-
    under the Jean and Shelly team;

    wow! they did a hatchet job on Cady Mclain..

    Jean and Shelley hired and got fired David Tom and worst yet he was replaced with the now terrible Billy
    and-

    remember the horrible writing for Meredith Baxter

    ruined the Austen character by horrible boring writing for the character..

    and their year long story that to this day is not totally wrapped up / the Music Box story

    Michaels sex cancer story

    Ian Ward story stuff was a snore, too .. wasted him.

    Tristan Rogers wasted.. completely horrible story writing for Tristan/Colin..
    he is near invisible and Tristan in a prime talent..

    Niels boring looong blind story

    Devon getting Kays fortune and does nothing with it, now that was a sad snore lol

    Avery the in the kitchen written as a cupcake queen.. her cooking scenes were a total snore

    Nikki having MS to complement her alcoholism

    Delia’s death that is still ongoing .. was horribly written
    It was the acting power of Billy Miller and Michael Muhney that gave short lived attention to that never ending story..

    taking Cane out of the high power business world and putting him in a hotel as a do nothing manger/whatever he is when he should have been a business King taking Victor down..

    If anybody believes the team of Jean Shelly will be good for GH hmm well LOL is all I gotta say.. at the least we will have great naps!
    ((It is a downgrade not an upgrade..
    Y&R fried them. found them unfit not up to par for their soap for a reason which is the above plus more I can’t recall because I feel asleep..

    Ron never put me to sleep and gave some needed laughs….

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    Elizabeth replied

    Well, cheer up, if you have cable television you can seek out the Batman hour every other day or so, you know, the one with Burt West where the bubbles give off the sounds of their action packed fights? To me that was very close to RC’s writing style….

    Tristan replied

    su000 has an aversion to adult drama. Hence her fan girl adoration for RC, who also had an aversion to adult drama. I give RC credit for a remarkable 50th anniversary year. He hadn’t the talent to sustain it. Ratings are the proof.

    Rose replied

    Su…I don’t follow writers per story as a rule. But did these two ladies really write all the stories you listed? If so I can see why you are concerned if this is the team that’s going to “save” GH. Hasn’t the ex-GH Phelps lady also had her fingers in the Y&R pie? For the time being I’m going to sit back and watch and hope for the best.

    I do think, though, that after Ron’s first year, when he did bring fresh excitement back to GH with the “new” and improved Nurses Ball and bringing back a lot of vets, he started to lose his way…he had too many stories and loose ends going no where or into la-lal land. And then he made some really bad moves, IMO, re: AJ, Duke, Fluke, and underusing and not writing compelling stories for some A-list actors he they brought onto the show like Roger, Michael, and Michelle.

    But no matter how I feel, I don’t like hearing about all of the negative Ron bashing that has been going on in plaes like twitter. As Mom said, “if you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say it at all,” or something like that. I’m not perfect, but I try.

    And It seems the pool of talented soap writers is dwindling to the point where we see the same names all of the time. I guess it’s not seen as a long-term, good career move. On the other hand, it seems to me, if you can write for a soap with all of it’s challenges, what a great training ground for creative writing.

    Timmm replied

    su0000, your scaring me!

    Abruzzfan replied

    Well said SU. I agree with everything you said!

  47. Bart says:

    General Hospital’s gain is “Y & R” ‘s loss – Shelly & Jean did a great job during their one-year tenure as HWs at “Y & R” – they brought Phyllis back to Genoa City in the form of Gina Tognoni (who’s kicking ass in the role!) and wrote the storyline that brought us Justin Hartley’s great interpretation of Adam Newman. They also resolved the story of Summer’s paternity. I enjoyed their stories.

    What happens?!?

    They get sacked for no reason and then Jill Farren Phelps brings in her old GH writing buddy Chuck “The Hack” Pratt, whose plot-driven, incongruous and convoluted stories are ruining Bill Bell’s legacy. Since then, we’ve been subjected to every hackneyed and over-used soap plot every created: doppelgangers, rape, a plane crash, murder, romantic triangles, paternity tests, etc – nothing but crap, crap, crap.

    I’ve never watched GH so I’m not familiar with what’s going on there, but I wish Shelly & Jean success in their new positions.

    BTW, people – Michelle Stafford & Billy Miller didn’t leave “Y & R” because of the writing – they left because of Jill Farren Phelps.

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    Jp replied

    I agree. JF Phelps ruins every show she works on. All I have to say is Frankie s death on Another World . That moment was basically when the show ended.

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    Alan replied

    No argument that Pratt is awful but Shelly and Jean had far more misses than hits in their Y&R run: Avery’s online cooking show; the mystery of Katherine’s music box (which they never really solved); Kevin’s on-line writings as Plato Sphere; Joe Clark; Austin Travers; Stitch’s secret; Jack and Kelly’s romance; Summer and Austin’s marriage; the revelation that Courtney was an undercover cop; Victor’s plot to renovate the warehouse district and destroy the coffee house; the complete waste of Ray Wise as evil cult leader Ian Ward; Colin’s return; and — for me — the return of Phyllis (Gina Tognoni’s interpretation is too one note and lacking the sense of humor and need to be loved that Michelle Stafford brought to the role).

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  48. elm51 says:

    i will never ever forgive ron for what he did to three veteran characters: frisco, aj quartermain & duke lavery………………
    he was very rude on twitter to fans which was so uncalled for & the remarks he made about sean kean on twitter was so unprofessional……………
    yes ron was right on point when he came to gh & yes he did save gh from cancellation but evidently it went to his head & he lost focus of what he was paid to do……………

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    GH forever fan replied

    And what about teasing long time fans about Blackie Parrish at the nurses ball only to make a joke out of John Stamos and the yogart sponsorship. So childish.

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  49. Alan says:

    I only returned to GH because of Ron’s writing and I suspect I’ll be tuning out because of Passanante and Altman’s. Their Y&R was plagued by pointless stories lacking build-up and pay-off (Mariah is obsessed with Tyler until she’s revealed to be Cassie’s twin and then her obsession is suddenly over; Avery has an Internet cooking show; Kevin writes an on-line Game of Thrones knock-off; Summer marries the man who held her aunt at gunpoint despite the fact she’s known him ten minutes and he held her aunt at gunpoint; Victor secretly plans to revamp the warehouse district which could mean the closing of the local coffee house; evil cult leader Ian Ward comes to town and does some things, none of which are particularly evil, cult-related, or all that interesting).

    I’m guessing ABC will be soap free by this time next year.

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    Reagan replied

    I wish they would hire Claire Labine. Wrote the famous Stone/Robin AIDS story & created Ryan’s Hope.

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    lellingw replied

    Tony would come running back and gladly die on the set.

    tracy replied

    tony geary got claire labine fired

    Reagan replied

    I bet Ron Hale (Mike Corbin) would also be willing to come back out of retirement if Claire was hired!

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  50. Abe Granvile says:

    RC filled the show with annoying.obnoxious useless characters who were not tied to any of the core families. We were stuck with 2 ppl scenes were ppl had the same conversation for weeks sometimes months. The humor was awkward and embarrassing. Heather’s BLT obsession was beaten to the ground. Port Charles doesn’t feel like a town. Beloved vets like Mac.Felicia and Monica are missing in action. We don’t see any long standing friendships or group scenes RC was very nasty and disrespectful to anyone who didn’t agree with him on Twitter.

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    Abe Granvile replied

    Plus all the good stuff always happened off screen.

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    Reagan replied

    Twitter is exactly what made me take issue with him.

  51. su0000 says:

    oops

    BIG SNOOOZ coming!

    Couples under Jean and Shelly;

    Hilary and Devon..
    Nothing deep and meaningful with them.
    They are not romantic.. they have sex at times.

    Adam/Gabe and Chelsea..
    no deep loving emotions or romance with them..
    They have sex and are not special/meaningful.
    I don’t even see them as a couple just a mess of nothing of push and pull.

    Nick and Sage..
    They do little of nothing romantic or lovenly..
    They just are.. nothing special about them..

    Jack and Phyllis are ok but still not the romantic fire of a great soap love, but one of the better couples. longevity..

    Abby and Stitch.. no romance or deep involvement there. blah

    Summer and Kyle are nothing much.. soon they will have sex but still no romance or deep loving moments..

    Victor and Nikki are never changing, no luvin, romance there

    Sharon and Dylan, no comment

    Lily and Cane are next to nothing interesting

    Michael and Lauren are dull nothing much with them.

    well the Jean and Shelly couples of Y&R are nothing special..

    GH’s couples have more fire and intrigue than Y&R couples, for sure
    the GH couples are very good more compelling in comparison to Y&R couples..

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    brenda replied

    Well suooo some of the couples you think are a snooze are my favorites so I guess you don’t speak for everyone.

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    Tristan replied

    I guess su000 will be following RC to the “camp” ground he lands on next.

  52. nicholas says:

    Ron Carlivati had his hits and misses . I would have kept him on but brought on 2 writers to assist him : Kay Alden and Claire Labine . Not pleased with Altman and Passanante who will ruin the show .

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    Reagan replied

    Yes yes on Claire!!

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    Tristan replied

    I have read somewhere that Claire Labine — a writing genius, like the late Doug Marland — has health problems. Otherwise I think someone would have grabbed her by now, like maybe GH. As much as it pains me to say it, I do not think Ms. Labine will be back writing soaps. But boy, do we NEED her!

    I am not going to be so quick to write off Passanante and Altman. GH fans need to give them a chance. At least ABC cared enough to make the change while the show is potentially salvageable. Let’s show support for these writers as a way of supporting ABC for investing in GH, when for expediency’s sake the network could have just decided to pull the plug. It did not, so I am supporting these new writers and am excited about what they will bring to the table.

    Fanny replied

    @Tristan… I’m in agreeance with you, they may be GH’s final lifeline.

  53. Anthony says:

    Maybe Ron’s problem was that he had just one too many “not really dead” characters flush through. Maybe trying to fill an hour of quality writing it too much to ask nowadays. Perhaps they should cut GH back to a half-hour and then ABC can bring back OLTL for the half-hour!!

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  54. mike says:

    Ron had great respect for the GH legacy but his stories were getting worse as time passed. His first BIG mistake was making the great Roger Howarth Franco. Howarth would have been a perfect Quartermaine or just about anything other than Franco. Then he destroyed a perfect character he created, Ava Jerome. He brought in Donna Mills as Madaline because he was a fan. She was great in Knots but not in GH. He should have brought in a great daytime actress for the role, Zimmer,Zenk,Slezak,Strasser, any of them would have been great. GH now needs focus and tightening, I don’t think P&A are right for the job either. Soaps need to stop pulling from the same old gene pool and find new blood.

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  55. trisha says:

    Happy for the change. Something definitely needed to be done. I think what should be considered is that even though soaps are soaps they each have their own footprints. Ron was not a good writer for GH. He may have been fine for One Life to Live and it’s footprint but he was all wrong for GH.

    So while JP has received some criticism for her previous works, she has worked on GH before. At least she’s familiar with the show and the characters and hopefully shell see where Ron failed and understand what she needs to do to bring GH back to being GH.

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  56. brenda says:

    I plan on giving the new writers a chance before I starting complaining just like I gave RC when he came aboard. With the ratings in the toilet ABC had to do something.

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  57. CeeCee says:

    I have been orbiting space for months with GH. Will the new writing team bring me back to earth?
    Jean and Shelly have some heavy artillery behind them ( OLTL, AW, AMC etc.) and an impressive backdrop in their favor. I was never into the writers since I had no reason to question the integrity of most storylines. But, the past few years the bumpy road has led to many a Canterbury Tale, using far-fetched, fantastical vehicles to get to Neverneverland. So, I am happy for the change! What will appear on this new horizon? Jason, Nina, Ava….these are the most pressing storylines needing closure. But, no more roller-coaster rides. I need a breather.

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    Fanny replied

    I’m inclined to reserve judgment until after the “NEW” writing team takes
    charge. They have a couple of weeks to familiarize themselves with what
    is currently working and what isn’t on GH… All they really need to do is
    watch a few episodes, read ALL of our countless suggestions and make
    clear, concise and WISE decisions on who’s to stay, & who DESPERATELY
    needs to leave the canvas…..

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    Fanny replied

    @CeeCee…Hi, CeeCee you need a breather… And I’m hoping for
    a breath of fresh air…. Whatever happened to ABC’S commercial
    slogan “Love in the afternoon”……… Ah! the good old days…

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    CeeCee replied

    I’m with you, Fanny. I will give the new team a break and a chance. If this team is able to tie up all the loose ends in a pretty little pink bow; I will be happy, ….for now…LOL. later, ma bonne amie.

  58. kaffen says:

    Ok my turn.
    Ok put Jasam back together+ there son..oops wait Sam doesn’t know hes alive!
    Give Silas Clay a story line
    You brung the child for what?..

    Can we have Robin, Spinelli back

    Just get Jasam back together

    Make Sam a PI with Anna or Jason

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    Stephanie replied

    Agreed. Get Jasam together and bring Melissa Archer as Sarah Webber

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  59. Rodd says:

    I liked what Ron did on OLTL and GH, though even I have to admit that I haven’t been enjoying the past few months too much. I just felt too disjointed; like I was watching a bunch of novellas with characters gone for weeks and weeks. When they returned to the screen I had lost interest in whatever story line they were in. IDK, there was probably a lot of behind the scene things going on that adversely affected the writing. (I hope.) Nonetheless, I am still a big fan of Ron’s and thank him for all he’s done to make GH a show I am invested in watching each day. Best wishes in whatever you do next, Ron. Now for a prayer for Jean and Shelly…I’m nervous about their story telling. Hope it’s excellent; better than their other work.

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  60. Belle says:

    I disagree with whoever is glad that Jean and Shelley are the new writers . Aren’t they the writing team who dismissed the charges against Phyllis who hit Paul and Christine? I sincerely hated that decision!
    I agree with others when they say that Ron did a great job when he became head writer; yet, I also hated the decision to kill Starr’s baby and boyfriend.
    However, switching writers among Soaps won’t benefit anyone. This going back and forth needs to stop! What’s needed are new ideas from fresh new writers who can bring an explosion of excitement to the Soap Opera Industry! Where are you- breath of fresh air or should I say breath of fresh writers?

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    Rose replied

    Agree about Starr, baby and Cole. And where are the new crop of writers? But they have to be well versed in each soaps stories, traditions and characters, and incorporate them with new life. Wouldn’t want them to be so new they thought they had a clean slate.

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    Alan replied

    I believe Josh Griffith was the one who had the charges dropped against Phyllis.

    The best scenario would’ve been to pair Ron and Jean who worked together at OLTL and delivered some spectacular stories.

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  61. Jake from NJ says:

    First order of business reveal Jason

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    Fanny replied

    Definitely, it’s 300 day’s overdue!

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    Lew S. replied

    YES! Way overdue!

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  62. Dawn D says:

    Well I’m going to wait and see. But the one s/l I don’t want messed with is Jake’s return and big Jake/Jason being with Liz and the kids long term. A lot of the rest needs fixing. I for one want hospital s/l’s and characters at least 1/2 of the time. Trimming the cast is necessary and focused s/l’s.

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  63. Ghluvre says:

    This is bogus. I predict when DAYS overtakes GH in total viewers ABC will wait 13 weeks and proceed to cancel it! THIS SOAP WILL BE GONE IN 2016! Everyone praising this mistake will regret it

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    su0000 replied

    The 2 do not have a good record..
    Shelly is the better..
    Y&R under them has been a snooze fest , they were fired..
    Why would GH/ABC drag in Y&R’s fired/throwaways.. senseless..
    There records;

    hi CeeCee,,
    actually, she has been fired from all but one that was cancelled under her and never had longevity with any soap.. that is not having ”heavy artillery behind them”

    One Life to Live from 1992 to 1996. In 1996 she was promoted to the top position of Head Writer, only to be replaced in 1997.
    (5 years- 1 year head writer)

    1998, at which time she was made Co-Head Writer of the ailing soap opera Another World. Passanante wrapped up the show’s 35-year run in June 1999.
    (one year)

    1999 Passanante’s contract with All My Children expired/not renewed in 2001, and she was replaced by Richard Culliton
    (less than 2 years)

    CBS’ As the World Turns in 2001, where she served as Co-Head Writer (second in command to Hogan Sheffer) until she was promoted to Head Writer in early 2005; she continued in that role through the show’s 2010 cancellation.

    Better of the two-
    Michelle “Shelly” Altman;

    Another World
    Associate head writer: 1995 – 1999
    (4 years)

    General Hospital
    Associate head writer: August 10, 2011 – January 6, 2012;(5 months) February 21, 2012 – February 28, 2013 (one year)
    Co-head writer: January 9 – February 20, 2012 (11 days)
    (One & half year) recently no history

    One Life to Live
    Associate head writer: 1999 – February 22, 2008; May 2, 2008 – September 20, 2011
    (10/11 years)

    The Young and the Restless
    Co-head writer: March 18 – November 1, 2013
    Head writer: November 4, 2013 – March 18, 2015
    (2 years) fired

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    Harry replied

    I have to admit that I am not utterly thrilled about the new hires. I am glad Ron was fired but do have a few doubts based on the facts (the ones which are actually correct) here,
    Keep in mind, however, that Jessica Collins left Y&R because she did not like the writing afforded to her character.
    Maybe this new team can make a difference but it’s going to take collective Herculean energy to undo the mess Ron made of GH. Are they up for the task? I do have my doubts but I will give them a chance .

  64. Chaz says:

    OLTL was my favorite show and I enjoyed much of what RC did with it. I can’t say the same for GH…..I stopped watching it about 2 years ago although I would read the synopsis in SOD and once in a blue moon tune I in.

    Hate to celebrate someone’s job loss but maybe this is the best thing for GH. Not ecstatic over the new choices and cannot understand why new taLLEST HY:

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    su0000 replied

    Y&R / Pratt threw Jane and Shelly out most likely because their writing is too lackluster weak for his direction of Y&R.. (their writing is too weak imo)
    Their snooze style of writing was not what Pratt wants for his Y&R..

    So- GH brought in the lackluster writers to bring GH further down..
    If Y&R threw them out, there was a reason ( plummeting ratings under them) and now GH dragged them in … ahha! go figure..
    Jean and Shelley’s writing is not what GH is .. not gonna work lol ..

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    Chaz replied

    Just realized my post went haywire at the end….kind of like Carlivati. It should have said……

    Cannot understand why new talent isn’t sought out rather than recycling the same people from soap to soap, network to network. OLTL did it when they brought I. Michael Malone, a novelist. I know not everyone loved his work but he did bring something different to the table.

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  65. fran says:

    wow , WTF

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    su0000 replied

    yah! WTHF!!
    The GH cast really adored Ron, they were a very close cast..
    Always close etc..
    It makes me wonder what the cast thinks of Ron being let go and Jean and Shelly in..
    Even if they are totally hating it they are not allowed to speak out, not until their contracts end and they no longer want to in the soaps.. lol
    they will indeed bite their lip and say good happy stuff about the change of writers lol
    But– it just seems they/cast will not be happy campers, not at all..

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    Tristan replied

    Um…GH cast reportedly did NOT love RC’s writing, esp. after the 50th. And I’ll bet they made their feelings known behind the scenes. You really love to “spin” it for your guy! They are a close cast, but not close with the writer who wouldn’t even deign to speak to Tony Geary when they were seated together for the Emmys. RC’s creations have supported him on Twitter. When I see tweets from Jane Elliot, Maurice Benard, Finola Hughes, Laura Wright and the show’s longtime stars and heavy hitters lamenting RC’s firing, I’ll buy your story. Until then, spin is not truth. But hey, gotta wish the guy well and hope he finds a place suited for his “special” talents.

    Harry replied

    The GH cast adored Ron? Um…..did you READ the Tony Geary interview?
    Have you ever heard John Stamos, Jack Wagner and Sean Kanan on the subject of Ron? He doesn’t even talk to the cast.
    Because it’s not good. As you say, SUooo, while under contract, the cast cannot say what they really feel about the writers so where on earth are you getting the idea that the GH cast really adores Ron?

    tracy replied

    only the people he wrote for loved him…like sonny, carly, ava, franco and nina

    Abruzzfan replied

    I have read that the GH cast was very close to Ron as well. AG is a little bit of a pre-Madonna and would not be considered a typical “GH Cast meber”.

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  66. William Hall says:

    This is gonna suck sooooo bad. Boring, sleep inducing stories, here we go.

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  67. MBmomof3 says:

    Wow. Somewhat shocking, but sorely needed. I was a longtime RC fan from OLTL, but he was his own worst enemy in his approach to GH. It was his way or the highway, viewers/ fans be damned. No way to write a successful show. Too bad his huge ego overshadowed his talent. He could do seriously great work at times. I hope the next regime does right by this iconic show. Great potential. Please don’t screw it up. Too much at stake here.

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  68. JUDY says:

    THE WRITING CANNOT GET ANY WORSE….YESTERDAY AND TODAYS EPISODES WERE THE SAME HORRIBLE DUMB STORYLINES AND I WENT THRU THEM IN 5 MINUTES…..SOON WILL NOT WATCH AT ALL…

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  69. Chaz says:

    Not celebrating anyone’s job loss but RC had dragged GH to the point of being unwatchable …..I quit 2 years ago though I kept up by reading the synopsis in SOD or tuning in for special episodes like the nurse’s ball.

    Sadly RC has talent but believe his ego began to outshine his talent. OLTL was my favorite show and RC did some very good things there. Not every story as a winner..but I think the good outweighed the bad.

    Unfortunately, by the time he got to GH and then received such praise for saving the show RC seemed to have run low on ideas and started hacking his own work.

    I will also join the chorus wishing soaps would stop recycling writers and look for fresh talent. New people would bring new ideas and maybe keep viewers interested long term.

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  70. Patricio says:

    Ron is a gifted story teller. He spun magic at OLTL. He knew the town of Llanview and the interesting, muli-layered characters that lived there. Part Charles was a different, darker world and frankly the characters one dimensional .

    Apples and Oranges.

    The speech the Viki gave on the near last show of OLTL regarding soaps and the people who love them was a masterpiece.

    God Speed Mr. C

    Go tell your stories I can’t wait to be taken away with them again!

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    Abruzzfan replied

    Patricio – well said!

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  71. Lew S. says:

    As I have said many times before, Ron is a good writer. He takes chances with storylines that are creative, that no other soap writer will tackle. BUT, he can also be over the top and extremely campy. Yes, he brought GH back to life and brought back many veteran cast members, but what did he do with them? Felicia? Mac (where the hell is he?), Lucy (totally wasted! ), Scotty and Bobbie? Ron is the John Waters of daytime and that is not everyone’s cup of tea. I don’t see him landing on the three remaining soaps, because Y&R has ego-maniac, Pratt; B&B is driven by Brad Bell, but i think he would do well there and DAYS just rehired their old writing team. You know what? He could shake things up in Salem and I my imagination runs wild with what he would have done with the Will/Sonny/Paul triangle! I wish him well and I hope he is hired outside of the soap world, because he is too creative to be boxed in.

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    Rose replied

    I like John Waters and I don’t see the Ron connection…except maybe the campy. And John did it way better because his characters had heart and personality. You could care about them.

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    Lew S. replied

    Hey Rose, That is the connection, the camp. I wasn’t bashing Ron, because I think John Waters is extremely talented. It was a true compliment. Ron will land on his feet and do exceptionally well.

  72. T says:

    I can’t help but to say that I am extremely happy! Ron Carlivati wore out his welcome. He was great with bringing back the vets during the 50th Anniversary and all, but he totally slid downhill from there! Slowly-paced, plot driven storylines with no feeling to them. There was no emotion. Stories like resurrecting little Jake should’ve been more emotional, instead of a quick and ill-conceived reunion with Lucky, and Elizabeth. No story, such as Jake/Jason’s, should be going on for as long as it has. It’s now been almost a full year since that Crichton Clark Clinic Fiasco that brought him and Robin back to Port Charles. By the way, where is Robin? I understand the actress is pursuing her directing dreams and all, but it would’ve been nice if we could’ve at least seen where she was, just so fans could be sure that the writers hadn’t forgotten about her.

    I’m sorry, I know it’s a soap opera, but some stories are ill-conceived, cheesy, and unimaginative as Mr. Geary (Luke) told us so. The whole Franco/Nina/Madeline/Ric/DenAva/Kiki plot makes me want to vomit every time these people are on screen. And it shouldn’t be that way! The actors in question are arguably very talented! But the base that the writers have laid down for them consists of crappy, and cartoonish storytelling. Come on! Is anyone really interested Or invested in a story that consists of 40-something year old Mobster changing her hair color and creating a horrible New York accent only to sleep with her daughter’s boyfriend AGAIN. The only difference from this storyline to the other (when Morgan and Ava were sleeping together) is a terrible wig!

    I crave balance and grounded stories. Stories that are character driven, and compelling. Stories that speak something to viewers. Not silly ones. I pray that this new writing regime doesn’t royally screw this show up. However, I have high hopes for the future. As far as we know, Executive Producer Frank Valentini is still around. He has love and compassion for this soap, and I’m sure that he will try to make it work no matter what!

    Can’t wait to see what the next chapter is!

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  73. Lauren says:

    Personally I am very happy about this. I looked up what shows these women were on and when and all of them were watchable (except JPat ATWT) even Y&R, it was Way more watchable then it is now. I am excited because Ron gave us some of the most ridiculous, drawn out, bad storylines. Anything that doesn’t have to do with vampires, relish, face masks and Franco/Carly is going to be am improvement. I mean who told him it would be a good idea to have Carly sleep with the man who got her son raped? Who told him it would be a good idea to drag out the Jason reveal this long? He did what he wanted and now we will see some improvements as long as they listen to fans. Speaking of Jason, the huge JaSam lover in me is praying for a reunion soon! Many want them back together, I really hope they do it soon! Anyways I have high hopes for JP and SA.

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  74. Jenny Brooks says:

    My question is, are there only 6 or 7 people in the US that write for soaps? The shows just seem to continually hire and fire the same people. Ron wasn’t always great, but he had some great stories like the 50 th anniversary and Luke’s ultimate backstory with his parents. This team tried to bring back vets and fan faves, even if they couldn’t keep them. They brought back the Nurses Ball, which I’ve enjoyed every year. Things could get a lot worse. Chuck Pratt has destroyed Y&R and if these new writers got canned by him, maybe it’s because they’re pretty good? ( Can I hope?)
    What I’ve never heard discussed is how much ABC’s decision to change GH’s airtime in several major TV markets across the country has hurt the show’s ratings? It was a terrible thing for ABC to do.

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  75. Patricia Nolan-Hall (@CaftanWoman) says:

    Passanante! Lord save us!

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  76. Aden says:

    All I can say is HALLLELUJAH!!! Passanante and Altman have some SERIOUS clean up and damage control to do but I believe they are up to the task! Carlivati has gutted and decimated the core of this show so thoroughly that it is going to be a Herculean task to turn it around. I see a WHOLE Lotta pink slips being issued on the near future and that is also awesome news. A bloated cast of newcomers, non-entities, and former Emmy winners needs to be pared down. I dont like to hear of anyone being unemployed, but inthis case it is a necessity to save the show!!

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  77. 4ever DAYS says:

    ABC knew they had to do something. GH is going down in the ratings while DAYS is going up! NBC gave a press release on Thursday for record gains in the demos…something this site failed to acknowledge. Also the newest ratings report was issued, which shows DAYS is ahead of GH in one demo and also GH and B&B in another demo…once again, this site refuses to acknowledge DAYS is on the rise.

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    Tristan replied

    I really respect Mr. Fairman and the opportunity he provides for us to discuss our passion. But he has seemed less than fair to Days, and clearly biased in favor of GH. For whatever reason, GH has been getting a pass, and a lot of sugar coating of its issues here. But nonetheless, we are lucky to have this site and hope in the future that it will be more fair to the other soaps. I sometimes disagree with Michael’s perspective, skewed in favor of GH, but I deeply appreciate this site!

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    CeeCee replied

    Here, here, Triatan. Three cheers for Mr. Fairman….such a good guy!!!!

    CeeCee replied

    Sorry: I messed up your name, TRISTAN!

  78. LindaTNo1 says:

    Bringing back vets will NEVER solve ALL the problems that are going on with GH. They are ONLY temporary quick fixes which will NEVER work in the long term best interests of SAVING GH from the cancellation schedule on ABC.
    GH has been having on-going systemic problems for a very long time now. Bringing on new “old” recycled writers will never work long term.
    My suggestion: Michael E. Knight and Darnell Williams. These 2 gifted Emmy winning brilliant actors are sorely needed in Daytime drama and can draw AMC fans and new fans alike. These 2 can help to shore up some of the void of Tony Geary. Give them a meaty arc and let the ratings soar. Bring on Debbi Morgan too in different ways. Not Angie and Jesse but both in different roles to showcase their gifted skills in their craft. Same for MEK. Add diversity to this show ASAP.
    This show needs help that changes in writing is not going to help at all.

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    Tristan replied

    You mean, turn GH into AMC? GH was turned into OLTL, and also into a Y&R retirement home. Neither strategy worked. GH fans want GH characters with history on the show and stories that do them and this GH history justice. We do not want it to be a continual dumping ground for the stars of other soaps. We want GH to be GH. Because it has not been, is a reason for its ratings decline. We want OUR soap back. Not another soap using its name. Sorry…but, with all due respect…NO, NO, NO!!!

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    tracy replied

    use the vets that are already there. no new fucking people

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  79. Tristan says:

    OK, this is what I am looking for from the new HWs. If the new HWs do not change the moral tone of GH, if they do not validate decency, honor, law, true love, integrity, genuine heroism…I also hope it sinks. As GH stands now it is a moral cesspool. It reeks of the love of violence and corruption and dishonor. There may be some who find this thrilling…but the ratings would suggest that most of us do not. The most important change for GH is its moral tone. It needs a morality centered in what I suggested: decency, honor, law, integrity, genuine heroism. If the new HWs do not morally re-center this show, the show shouldn’t survive. Popular culture mirrors society, but it can also shape it. I do not understand why genuinely positive human qualities are so problematic to those who have turned this show into a bizarro universe where good simply cannot win out. I do not understand their assumption that everyone thinks crime is cool and murderers are the social avatars and moral gatekeepers of the universe. This is what GH has come to signifiy: a moral dystopia where good is neither a positive social/personal moral value, nor a even an aspiration! It is not a positive aspirational universe, but one where human baseness is valorized at the expense of what matters in a life of decency. I take this seriously, even though GH is “just” a soap opera: because it is, by its code, setting a moral standard. One that is appalling in its disregard for what is good, and for making choices that are for the good. No character has remained unscathed or untarnished. They are all walking with evil. Why? What a sick universe is GH. If the new HWs understand that, I will stand with them. If they cannot or will not, I will not cry for GH when it is cancelled. How will I know the universe has been righted? When Anna is allowed to put Julian behind bars and we stop glamorizing this smug, vile murderer. If Jason is a Q, and not a Morgan. If Sonny becomes the man he is capable of becoming, a flawed man who understands his sins and accepts punishment for them without whining, without begging. And without shame. A man who stands tall in self-realization and in genuine atonement. At this point, I can accept nothing less. I have too much to do, and GH is now a luxury of time I can no longer, and am no longer willing to, afford. The firing of Ron Carlivati, a man whose literary code seemed to rejoice in the worst of human nature, gives me hope. But I demand this change as a viewer. I want a mature, self-reflective moral universe in which the good becomes a social and personal value, and not an anachronism unworthy of aspiration or realization.

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    maddiehayes replied

    Very well said! I too am fed up with all the debauchery. I can’t stand the mob! Port Charles needs a strong chief of police like Robert Scorpio, who ALWAYS got his man. Ever since Sonny appeared on the scene, Sonny has run the show. I’m sick of it! What a joke this last prison stint was, with Sonny getting a full pardon from the governor. How contrived can you get?! Thank you for this post, you said it all!

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    Tristan replied

    How did RC symbolically demonstrate to the audience that he had completely overturned GH’s moral universe, essentially inverting its moral poles so that the bad always triumphed over the good? The moment for me came when he symbolically turned Steve Hardy’s — GH’s positive moral avatar for decades – dual roles over to Dr. O. This was when he made this kidnapper/terrorist GH’s Chief of Staff, and made her the voice of GH’s Christmas tradition. With no pushback from other characters!!! As this was just the way it should be!!!!! Nothing that RC did ever expressed to me, as much as these two acts, his complete contempt for GH and what it had once stood for. That was the moment when GH’s moral universe was shifted off of its axis and we were shuttled into a new world called bizarro GH, where every positive was overthrown — without pushback from a single character, from which pushback could have emerged phenomenal drama — by a negative. Every good character just gave up, gave in, caved in, and became part of this moral black hole that RC reveled in.

    maddiehayes replied

    To be fair, Guza was a moral relativist too, and my last straw with Sonny was when he shot unarmed cop Dante, point blank, in the chest. Oh, but then we’re supposed to cry with him when he finds out Dante’s his son? Oh, NOW Sonny’s sorry, ONLY because he shot his son! And then I had to endure the Sonny whitewashing, as Dante, all squishy with feelings for his newfound father, LIED on the witness stand for Sonny. Like you, making Dr. O the chief of staff is not making me like her any better! I really hope the new writers either get rid of her or make her a recurring character. After everything she’s done, including trying to kill Robin and almost killing Robert, I’m supposed to like her now? Well, I don’t. And don’t get me started on all the bedhopping. It is just ridiculous! Even Dante has now cheated on Lulu. RC just wasn’t happy until he dragged every character in the mud. Anna’s morals changed a lot under Guza and RC. She used to equate sex with love and marriage, she only EVER slept with Duke and Robert, her husbands. But then Guza had her become a groupie for Eli Love. And RC threw her in bed with Luke and Sloan. Just because. And then there’s Rick&Madeline, Morgan&Denise .. I’m telling you, there’s only so many gag-worthy scenes a person can stomach. When the new writers start wading through to clean up all this sleaze I hope they are wearing hazmats! lol

    Pam replied

    So true, Tristan. Even dark, conflicted Luke loved Dr. Steve Hardy. There used to be plenty of good characters on GH in addition to bad guys. There used to be more balance between right and wrong, good and evil.

    Maddie: Yes, I would be interested in seeing Robert Scorpio come in and clean up the mob Rudy Giuliani style. It doesn’t mean Sonny has to leave. It means some more character twists and more character development for Sonny. …something Maurice might even welcome.

    I could never have imagined Robert Scorpio there, trying to clean up the mob, while Luke was there feeling loyal to both Sonny and Robert. Although that might have been a good friendship triangle story…Luke, Sonny, Robert. Now that Luke is gone, I can see Robert returning and not having anything standing in his way (Luke) to handle some business in Port Chuckles. Luke never really hated cops until his 1993 return. Prior to that he didn’t hate them as much. He tried to be mayor for crying out loud and he didn’t seem to have any qualms about Robert being Police Commissioner. It wasn’t until the 90′s when the writers drew a thick line between Luke and the cops. Maybe with Luke gone (as much as I love Luke) the show can shift to some happier themes. It can keep the dark themes too….it just needs more balance.

    Fanny replied

    In retrospect that sounds ideal however……Tristan, you must already know some
    of those expectations will not be met, unfortunately.

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    Beth replied

    Tristan, you make me long for the late 70′s/early 80′s GH when families gathered and celebrated at Kelly’s Diner often. When scenes and stories were longer, to allow time for true character development. (If done properly, of course.) When budgets were larger and sets were bigger…to allow the actors space to move around and appear more realistic. Nowadays the sets have shrunken and the actors mostly have to stand still in a tight cluster and resemble talking puppets. The larger the enterprise, the more soaps suffer. In the early days fewer corporations owned them and there was more artistic freedom. It became “art by committee” some years ago and that seldom ends well. Comparing the older youtube footage to modern day shows is eye opening. Concerning the mob stuff: I too hope the show changes to something more balanced with some room for some brightness and morality.

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    Tristan replied

    Yes, Beth. YES!!!!!!! I too long for those days. Everything you have spoken of has been expunged from GH by this regime and the one that directly preceded it, as though the point was to erase from all “pylons and obelisks” (sorry, I couldn’t resist a “Ten Commandments film ref.) all evidence of GH’s once proud history. And this is why, in my opinion, this show is hanging on by a very very frayed thread, at this point in time.

    Rose replied

    Beth…I remember great set locations on beaches, etc. when Felicia and Frisco where on their adventures for her family jewels. Also Felicia was really perky back then. She had a chance to show her stuff again under RC, but they cheated her out of becoming mayor. Baaaad move. Don’t remember specifically, maybe you will, but didn’t Anna and Robert also have different locations as WSB agents, or whatever? Even at the Quartermaines they had more than just the one room…there was a least the garden with it’s flowers, and the boat house in better days. Now B&B has had a budget for great locations like Dubai, Paris and Venice in recent months. This brings back some of the romance and adventure to stories.

    Shay replied

    That was very well put, Tristan! Over the past few years, many of us here have repeatedly denounced the declasse’ tone and tasteless depravity that have become a GH trademark at the hands of RC. While we were often accused of being uncool or simply not “getting it,” by a few giddy, effusive Ron followers, it would seem that the preponderance of viewers repeatedly stated they most sought the sort of values you have espoused to be the prevailing code of conduct for the majority of Port Charles residents—save for the choicest of villains and villainesses. (Alas, it’s been as if the whole community has gone dark underneath a sinister cloud of demoralization, particularly during these last twelve months or so.) Like you, I am hoping that this egregious atmosphere of nearly universal indecency is one of the first issues addressed by the new writers. There definitely needs to be a true sense of moral clarity, as well as a real delineation between good and bad characters and the inherent behavior accordingly assigned to them. Furthermore, the show’s survival absolutely depends upon the cessation of turning those with the worst human tendencies into heroes….that has long been a problem with certain major players on the GH canvas, although the pattern certainly expanded exponentially under the leadership of Cartini. It is my hope that the new writers will imbue a more refined, refreshing ethos into the image of this once-revered daytime institution in what will be a very narrow window of opportunity to correct all the ills that have ailed GH for far too long now.

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    Tristan replied

    Shay, allow me to co-sign your post. Exactly!!!!

    Rose replied

    I may not be as passionate as you in expressing your goals for GH, but I think the spirit of your remarks has merits.

    I don’t want GH turned into a serious morality soap, but just once I would like to see justice and consequences for guys like Sonny, Julian, and even Victor. Even Kiki and Morgan for drugging Michael should have had at least community service instead of…instead of…instead of..oh well, I’m sure you know what I mean. At least the younger set on Y&R seemed to be employed. Some of the other stories like dark Nik, and Elizabeth/Jake/Sam make really interesting drama as they work themselves out.

    Let Alexis dust off her law books and show us the lawyer she used to be, and not have Scottie look like such a buffoon all of the time in his quest to bring Sonny down. And no more bailouts by the governor. Recast Robin and bring her back to PC.

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    Tristan replied

    Example of a story that brought out the BEST in every single character on the canvas: Robin/Stone.. Every character, including morally “shady” characters like Sonny, stepped up to the plate to embrace, if only for a moment, decency, utterly unconditional love, forgiveness…Sonny did not renounce his life of crime for Stone, it was not a morality play in the medieval sense where it was intended to send a blunt religious message of demanded conversion…But that storyline allowed for the good of the PC community to express itself, as everyone came together to celebrate courage and goodness. When, for heaven’s sake, was the last time that happened– unambiguously happened — on GH? NO one does anything on GH now without a twisted, dark, morally questionable motive. And this must stop. I cannot spend any more time in a moral universe utterly repugnant to me. A moral universe means not equating murderers with heroes. But seeing them as the murderers they are who happen also to be human beings, deeply flawed people who actually do things that we acknowledge ARE BAD things decent people should NOT do and that we refuse to condone or support; human beings we can dare call out for being morally and ethically repugnant characters. We need some characters speaking for those of us in the audience who believe in the good as a positive moral value, and not having every character turning to the dark side and espousing NOTHING of decency or worth. We just cannot, anymore.

    This, by the way, has been a great little mini-thread. I love and respect what all of you are saying in response to my piece. Because, when it comes to GH, we all care and it must stand for something better than it currently does. Otherwise…, in my own opinion, it can go away. I cannot inhabit a world of almost total darkness for even a hour of my day. Not anymore. Sometimes I just feel, dare I say, “tainted” after watching GH. Tainted, and angry that positive values receive NO validation in this disturbing moral universe that is the current “General Hospital.”

    Justin replied

    I’m with you Tristan! Well said. I miss the show I grew up watching, when the good guys were the doctors and the cops!

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    Rose replied

    Tristan..you really lead the way on this thread. Congrates! Love also what you said about what Steve Hardy brought to GH. And there is a good side to Sonny. Just wish he had stories where he could show it more, and no more cold blooded killings. For the same reason you don’t want the negative, dark stories from GH for even a day, I’ve mostly quit watching a lot of the news. I know a lot about what’s going on, but I don’t immerse myself in it anymore.

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    Shay replied

    I’d be honored, Tristan! You obviously struck quite a nerve with your original post, given the magnificent response you received from so many like-minded people, myself included! It shall be most interesting to see if our pleas are heard and answered accordingly from this new writing team.

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  80. Timmm says:

    Ron did good his first year and he has been going down hill since. Something had to be done. It may be worse but you have to tinker with things when something is not working. I think Frank is a good EP and he will regroup with the new head writers and we will see some welcomed changes. This new writing team didnt get rave reviews at Y&R. Okay but maybe a change for them will benefit them as much as it does for GH and make us fans happy. Remember this, in the NFL ,Bill Bellicheck coached the Browns and he sucked! He went to the Patriots and won four Super Bowls. Maybe these new writers writing for a new show is just what the doctor ordered!

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    Amy replied

    I watched GH from 1978 – 1981. I wasn’t even 10 years old yet at the time. Ever since the 52nd anniversary, I have youtubed the LnL playlists. I re-watched the stuff I remember from my childhood and I have gradually made my way to the year 2002 thus far. I also have been watching current GH every day since the 52nd anniversary. Does Luke own the Haunted Star again or does he work for someone? If he owns it: Have they written an explanation of who will run Haunted Star and who will run Kelly’s? Luke’s 1983 exit storyline was very well crafted. Luke and co-characters discussed the closure of his then club, “Luke’s Place”. They tied up loose ends with his mayoral position…turning the job over to Lee Baldwin. They incorporated A LOT of flashbacks. It was a well crafted exit and very satisfying and cathartic for the viewers. The 2015 exit is empty. It feels very unfulfilled and cheap.

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    Timmm replied

    Luke just rolls in the “Rusty Tub” and helps himself. I believe Lulu owns half of the Haunted Star and Johnny Zacharra owns the other half. I thought Luke and Bobbi took over Kellys after their Aunt Ruby died. I dont know, I havent seen Luke in there in awhile. Its like every other problem with GH now, nothing is written as a story. Everything is jammed down your throat. They probably didnt have much time to write a long story before AG told them he was leaving. He hasnt mentioned Robert at all. That was his best buddy. This has been a disappointment. Very few flashbacks. Maybe they will hit us with a lot of them this week? They have 37 freakin years of film!

  81. jeremy says:

    Thank, Goodness!!! :)

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  82. Robert in Jersey City says:

    Truly sorry for Ron. But, why is the same handful of talent going back and forth from GH & Y&R? Maybe it’s time for new blood everywhere. Honestly, I’m not watching all of as much as I used to. Could be work, but in the past I’d made time for soaps. Not so much right now.

    Ron, go get yourself a new “Knot’s Landing!”. :)

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  83. blake says:

    This is good news for GH, I will probably start tuning in once their stories start airing.

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  84. Joan says:

    Ron and Frank saved the show, and they did a beautiful job of it. And then I don’t know what happened.

    I think from what I have read that Mr. C is quite arrogant and can’t take criticism. On Twitter he blocks people who criticize him and he was nasty to Michael Logan of TV Guide, who was actually saying he thought Carlivati could bring the show around. But by acknowledging that it is bad, Carlivati found it necessary to dig at him.

    Also, if I were a head writer, and I’m not, I wouldn’t want to alienate people like Tony Geary, sorry. He refers to him as “the writer”? I can’t believe Jane Elliot would be far behind in that opinion.

    I don’t know how this new team will work. If I were the network, and again, I’m not, I would have brought in someone new to soaps with fresh, exciting ideas so that DNA wouldn’t be switched in the lab, miscarriages wouldn’t happen by falling down a flight of stairs, there would be less people resurrected from the dead, more women sure of the father of their child, and less bone marrow transplants. It’s old. It’s boring. Soap watchers want respect for history, complex relationships, and romance.

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  85. Bren says:

    I gave Frank & Ron a good try, unfortunately, I could no longer stand to watch GH. They destroyed the show that I grew up watching. When fans are telling you they are upset because you just rewrote history of a longtime beloved character, the characters say things that make them unrecognizsble by their fans,and they tell you they don’t like it, the response should NOT have been “don’t watch”. Well, that’s why ratings are at all time low.
    I’m excited about the change. It’s way past due but I’m trying to be optomistic about it. Fans don’t want their soap to be canceled, we just want things restored. Write stories that allow characters to interact on daily basis, give relationships the opportunities to build before throwing a couple into bed. Give us love in the afternoon. Fix this Jake/Jason mess. The reveal should have happened long ago. Let Jason return to his family. I’m ok with him not being in the mob, let him help get ELQ back or work with Sam as PI. Give Sam, Jason & Danny the opportunity to be s family. Kelly Monaco & Billy Miller have mad chemistry! Bring Robin home, even if it means a recast (yes, I said it!). Would like to see more happy couples, why can’t the angst come from outside forces rather than the couples themselves. Let us see things unfold on screen. Don’t tell fans “it happened off-screen” & expect us to be ok. They are going to have to reduce the cast size. Holy moly, I’ve never seen s show with so many cast members that have no purpose other than taking up air time. Give us substance. Give us couples: Jason & Sam, Patrick & Robin, Carly & Sonny, Alexis & Julian or Rick, Maxie & Spinelli, Danta & Lulu. Give families the Quartermaines, the Davis Girls. Bring back Diane, I miss her & Max, her & Alexis, her & Jason, ok I just miss her wit. I could go on & on with my wish list. Just make GH a show worth watching again.
    Good luck new writers! Thank you.

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    tracy replied

    get real. the show is done. tony geary has left the building.

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    Daniel replied

    This is 2015. Not 2009 or 2010. Why would you want to bring back the “Godfather” days of Guza. Scrubs is over. I don’t see Patrick and Robin getting back together nor do I want them back together and Carly as a couple is old and very tired. Ric Lansing is just a waste of space. Spinelli is gone and not coming back. Personally, I think they should get rid of Max. The less Italian Mob characters, the better. This isn’t the Sopranos.

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  86. Tristan says:

    Thank you to Michael Fairman! I want to thank you, Michael, for giving us a “safe space” to comment on the HW news coming from ABC/GH. Clearly we do not all agree. But this is the only site I have been on with the widest range of (mostly) polite, in-depth and intelligent exchanges of views. Clearly we all care about GH and want it to survive. What your site is offering — IF ABC and the new HWs are reading — is a really great compendium of audience reactions, some of which should be taken seriously by the new HWs. They need US to survive, and our opinions must be at least given consideration. That was not Mr. Carlivati’s strong suit. These HWs need to listen to the viewers, even if they do the opposite. They will have their own vision, of course. But the fact that so many have tuned out as GH lost its way, suggests that paying attention to these disaffected viewers cannot be a poor strategy as they try to re-build the show. There is a small window here, I would suspect. The HWs should worry less about shocking new viewers into tuning in, and worry more about bringing back the core GH audience that has tuned out. Get us back first. And one way to think of how to do this is to read boards such as this to see what we are thinking. So for offering the forum, thank you again, Michael. It is a place to vent and muse. Maybe it can also help GH, if the right folk are reading.

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  87. Brett says:

    This really is not good news, Altman and Passanate are ok as writers but as heads they are a snoozefest, I love Ron’s work, he will be sorely missed and the show will die.

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  88. Rob says:

    I get the reasoning at times to change Head Writers but is it really necessary to keep rehiring the same tired writers who were let go from numerous other soaps? Isnt there anyone new out there? I think WE could write better than some of this people.

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    Rob replied

    better stories.

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  89. PatF says:

    From what I’ve read now for about a year, the fans of GH would prefer a “snoozefest” (above post) to the mess that Ron’s been writing.

    I wish they were still at YR. Pratt and Ron’s writing are pretty much the same in my boat. Don’t want either at YR.

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  90. James R. Poissant says:

    This is a joke, right? Letting Ron go is ABC’s way of finally axing the only soap they have on the air. His work took me back to the days of when Gloria Monty was there and his “surprise a day” technique had me wanting the next episode to air every day. He won me over at OLTL and because of his style, that soap was my favorite when he and Frank were the honchos for that soap. Now that this has happened, I am just waiting to hear that Frank has been let go too. Stupid, stupid, stupid!!

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    john replied

    I agree 100_ James

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  91. jonboy says:

    Thrilled. Rc was great on OLTL but not so great on GH, imo.

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  92. john says:

    Terrible decision. I hope that it doesn’t turn into the old GH..
    Ron was great..love the way he mixes comedy with drama.
    This is the beging of the end of GH. We’ll see… not a happy camper here but i ‘ll give the new writers a chance…please dont bote me.

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    Abe Granvile replied

    GH was beaten to the ground long before Ron and Frank took over.

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  93. W. R. says:

    Indont think Ron is a terrible writer. That first year or two at GH was generally very good. I liked the addition of the OLTL characters. They gave the show a shot in the arm and all of the actors, old and new were doing well. I think Ron’s downfall came when he started believing his own press. Suddenly he believed he could do no wrong and anyone that didn’t agree with him was insulted and belittled. He should have known better and just let it go. People express what they feel and with Soaps those tend to be strong feelings.
    Instead he became arrogant and egotistical. He began writing stories that he wanted to tell and ignoring history and who the characters were. He believed that people would just go with him and ignore the inconsistencies and with some people he was right. However as the ratings have shown most did not. People began to get frustrated and he just continued doing whatever he wanted. The birth of baby Gabriel to me was one of the most glaring examples. A baby born that premature under those circumstances wouldn’t survive five minutes much less weeks. Watching Patrick, a doctor, casually go upstairs in an elevator holding that baby in his arms was ridiculous.
    They had a chance to hold onto the OLTL characters that they had borrowed . They just would have to consult PP, which they should have done from the beginning, on what they did with them. Those characters were working on the show and GH should have jumped at the chance to keep using them even if they had to make concessions. But Ron, and I’m sure Frank wanted to do their own thing. So they gave up the characters and brought the actors back almost immediately as new characters. That was doomed to failure. People kept pointing to other actors that came back as different characters and were successful? True, but in most if not all of those circumstances there were years between the characters two incarnations unless they were coming back as a twin. All three of those were doomed to some degree of failure.
    Bringing people back from the dead has become so commonplace that it is comical. Camp is good in measured doses. The writing has become lazy. Ron decides he wants to do something and just does it. No research, no logic, no effort at realism. Something had to give eventually and now it has. I hope Ron takes this as a lesson. I really did generally like his writing before. No one is perfect but I liked what he was doing most of the time. I would like to see that man back.
    As far as the new writing team, I think it behooves all of us to reserve judgement and give them a chance. Dire predictions don’t help anyone.

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  94. Vanessa says:

    Another bad decision by ABC. It’s about time they make up for it by bringing One Life to Live back and return Ron Carlivati as head writer.

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  95. jonboy says:

    Surprised at the negativity towards the new writers. Towards the end of their tenure at YnR the show was great. I think a read of Tony Gearys tv guide interview speaks volumes about Rons dismissal.

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  96. RICKIE says:

    I haven’t watched this show in eons. Once it became a mobster drama, I checked out…

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  97. verajay says:

    i miss GH from the days of the Quartermains. i miss alan especially. i liked the friction between alan and monica. i stopped watching GH, last year when things started to go sour. i hope they keep Maura West she is a good villian. and keep carly alexis, i like sonny if they write better for him. all in all i hope the new writers add some spark to this show.

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  98. Donna says:

    Hopefully, these new writers will bring back Steve Burton. While Billy Miller is doing a great job; nobody will ever fill Steve Burton’s shoes.

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    Daniel replied

    I don’t feel Steve Burton should come back. The last thing is for them to turn Jason back into a mindless, “Terminator” robot hitman for Sonny.

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  99. Donna says:

    Here is an assignment for the new writers… It would be very interesting to see Valerie Spencer (Lulu’s cousin) carry Dante’s baby.

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  100. Ginger says:

    Adios GH – it WAS fun, but it won’t be from now on. It’s back to how sexy Sonny kills his next victim and fathers his next innocent victim.

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  101. Barbie M says:

    I am trying to imagine what I would do if I were head writer of GH. Seems to me the HW is between the proverbial rock and hard place.

    How would I please the audience? Soaps are driven by romance, so I’d write about couples getting together. But once they’re together, they become boring “tent-pole” couples (think Steve and Audrey Hardy), and the only way to give them storyline is to (1) put them in an adventure (Ice Princess), (2) give them tragedy (the death of little Jake), or (3) break them up (too many examples to count) or at least put them in a triangle (Lulu/Dante/Valerie, Monica/Alan/Rick Weber). But people might complain that this is all too dark, negative, unbelievable.

    So rather than mess with the storyline of established characters, would I bring in new characters? Sure, but then everyone would hate them because they were new (or repurposed characters from another show, which is theoretically a brilliant idea but might run into legal problems). I’d want to bring back legacy characters, but what if the network wouldn’t let me hire them fulltime? I’d end up with a huge cast of underused fan favorites who rarely get screen time.

    So let’s say I decide okay, let’s go the adventure route: what do I do then? Reboot an Ice Princess story? I know, I’ll rip off The Godfather–everyone likes Sonny, right? But then I am forced to enter a morally dark universe in which obvious repeat felons are constantly saved from imprisonment by absurd deus ex machinas.

    And what if I have a character who somehow works in multiple ways–romance, adventure, legacy, family–and then the actor decides to leave the show? (I’m looking at you, Steve Burton.) Then I recast and–I know, I’ll use the old car-accident/amnesia story to explain how the guy looks, acts, sounds, seems, and probably smells nothing like the old character. Then people will complain that this story is unrealistic!

    I know! I’ll get a legacy couple back together. Everyone loves that! No, wait, Tony Geary hates L&L! And he has more clout than Don Corleone! Crap.

    You don’t have to fire me–I quit!

    Feeling kind of sorry for Frank C.

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  102. Marci says:

    I’ve been a fan since I was a teenager, since Luke and Laura.. I’ve been a die hard fan ever since, yes, I’d get mad at the writing, producers, etc.. I yell at the tv. You name it.. Cried, laughed. I remain loyal.. However, I must admit the past several years have annoyed me, dissatisfied me,.. Where are the day’s of making you feel something by Friday? Any emotion?? I think, in my opinion, that the past couple of years, the story lines were so dragged out, no resolution that drew you back into it, some of the replacement characters, ( not too great) and my only hope is whomever writes for GH, show respect to these characters, the legacy that this show has.. And stop the stupidity of outrageousness with characters. Be subtle, unique!! This is what I always loved about GH!!

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  103. michael ryback says:

    i think it sucks

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