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228 September 18th, 2014 Chuck Pratt Named New Head Writer At The Young and the Restless! Will Also Get Executive Producer Credit!

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The news is out tonight that former All My Children, General Hospital, Santa Barbara scribe and Sunset Beach co-creator, Chuck Pratt has been named the new head writer at The Young and the Restless!

In addition, Pratt will also get an executive producer credit!  First came the rumors via Highlight Hollywood that this change was at play behind the scenes, and then the first confirmation via Daytime Confidential.

On-Air On-Soaps also heard through sources that Pratt’s executive producer credit is more about money that taking over the reins of the number one show. Jill Farren Phelps remains in the top EP spot at the CBS daytime drama series.

Pratt has also written for primetime series including:  Melrose Place, Beverly Hills, 90210, Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty and more recently The Lying Game that starred General Hospital’s Tyler Christopher (Nikolas Cassadine) before that show was canceled.

Pratt’s last daytime head writing gig with All My Children was widely panned, and many felt his stories ran the show into the ground, before it was eventually canceled by ABC.   How does the Y&R writing team shake-out with Pratt as the new head writer?  Stay tuned!

What do you think of the news of Chuck Pratt as new Y&R head writer? Share your thoughts below!

 

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  1. davlestev1 says:

    I’m actually kind of a fan of his off and on. I certainly followed him from show to show so i’m looking forward to things making a whole lot more sense now. He’ll help the show bounce back from the snoozer it became. So at least they’re trying over there. Somebody is better than what’s current. That’s for sure.

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    keith replied

    Y&R is not the soap it used to be….it used to be the best, most original soap out there with their character driven stories and beautiful music. Those days are gone. With Chuck Pratt, those days will be further away than ever! This soap needs to get back to their roots. I barely watch it anymore. It needs to go back to the days when it was the Foster Family and Brooks Family. Bring them back along side the Abbott Family. Bring Brenda Dickson back as Jill Foster Abbott to really stir things up! She would add much needed spice to this show! Bring back the original music which made the Young and the Restless so special and different.

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  2. davlestev1 says:

    So what does this mean for the other two..

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    Real Deal replied

    Altman & Passanante are out as head writers. They may get jobs as underlings, but that’s a slap in the face. They screwed up royally or they’d still have their jobs. Obviously, the Kool-Aid drinkers will keep heaping praise on this show, but the folks that want to be honest know that this is one train wreck under the direction of Jill Farren Phelps. This is now three head writer regimes in less that 18 months at Y&R. Nobody can put a pretty picture on this situation and be credible. The audience has eyes.

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    Ashleigh replied

    Ameeeeen tooooo that!!!!

    4ever DAYS replied

    I hope none of those hacks go to DAYS!

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    Harry replied

    What’s Bob Guza up to these days? (shudder)

    jaybird369 replied

    Or to B&B.

    Jimmy replied

    Hopefully it means they show Passanante the door and dead-bolt it shut behind her, the woman destroyed ATWT and if she has been kept on at Y&R, the same thing would have happened.

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    Traci replied

    I could not agree more! She COMPLETELY ruined ATWT for me and for most fans. Y&R was going downhill. Hopefully, Chuck can breathe some life into it!

    Kaleesi replied

    Unfortunately they merely switched soap killers. JP may have destroyed ATWT but CP did the same thing to AMC!!

  3. Kristen says:

    Chuck Pratt should never work in daytime again. What a slap in the face to soap fans everywhere that he could do what he did to AMC and then turn around and be given a HW job on one of the few remaining soaps. Good luck, Y&R fans. I have a feeling you’re going to need it.

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    Desiree replied

    Ya we will

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    Don Hewitt replied

    I think we will need. He sure trashed AMC before ABC cancelled it.

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    Momma replied

    Good God, that story line where he had Reese cheating on her lesbian fiancee Bianca with Zach was literally the worst and most offensive story line ever.

    He will without question kill this show.

    k/kay replied

    Everybody please read Lynda Hirschs Saturday column about this Pratt situation she is a friend and she always brings you down off the ledge! Relax do not jump off the bridge!

  4. robert says:

    I have mixed opinions on this. Y&R is really boring right now, so I hope he brings more intrigue and suspense to the show. I like his work on Santa Barbara,but I did not think All My Children was his best work. I will not judge him until I see his work on Y&R. I bet a tornado will hit Genoa City next year because he likes to do natural disaster stories. I just hope they don’t kill any vets.

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    Jimmy replied

    I agree with everything you said about adding more intrigue and suspense to the show, Y&R is a snooze-fest right now so adding more action (not as much as GH which seems to thrive on shoot-outs) would be improve the show. But the depth of stories have to match the action. The stories have to be well developed and character driven, not plot driven, otherwise it’s like we’re heading back to the horrid Lynn Marie Latham days.

    And I wholeheartedly agree about not killing off vets, apparently Christian LeBlanc’s name has been thrown around about possibly getting the ax and that would be absolutely horrible for Y&R, the show needs to keep the remaining talent it has. If they need to kill characters off, kill of unimportant ones like Leslie, Barton, Hillary, Austin, Kelly, etc)

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    sharon replied

    Leslie and Barton are not on the show what are you talking about, hilary is in a hot story line right now but it might not be hot to you but others like me, Austin just got on the show, Kelly I kind of agree with you on that one

  5. su0000 says:

    imo
    Chuck Pratt was brought on to turn Y&R , it is struggling sone it lost 3 of the best actors it gas, and many fans were/are very upset over losing the 3..
    Y&R has not recovered from the loss..
    Chuck Pratt will without a doubt turn characters into being near unrecognizable to give Y&R a whole new presence….
    It is his MO for attempting to improve a soap, by his changing characters/turning them..
    Also, Y&R hasn’t had a decent story in the past 2 years and with the ”3” it is empty of wjay once made it great..
    Sonny knows this and therefore Chuck Pratt is brought in to recreate Y&R, yes recreate Y&R.. to suit the now cast..
    What is once was is no longer..
    so– all in all, this should be very interesting, indeed … lol

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    Harry replied

    SU00, I don’t think you know this man’s history. Chuck Pratt is known as being the grim reaper of soaps. He’s even worse than JFP. What he did to AMC before it was cancelled was travesty.
    If you think I am hard on Ron Carlivati, then wait until you hear what I think of Chuck Pratt. Next to Chuck, Ron is the Bard of soaps.
    This is horrible news, just horrible.

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    Debby Wininger replied

    I agree Harry! Y & R has been my favorite soap since I was young and it seems to be going nowhere and the next year will tell the future of this A+ show. They need to stop killing off the ones that made it a # 1 show. Fans don’t like major character changes! But I totally agree with Harry and this IS horrible news!

    nicole replied

    No soap is what it once was. As for the three who left, they have all been recast and I for onelove GT and JH, BuJ is improving so I don’t miss them at all. And he ratings have been improving.

    I am nervous because the show is just hitting its stride again. Love Camryn Grimes, the actress who plays Hilary is a find. As is Meredth Baxter. So I have a new three. :)

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    Tess replied

    Well, there are plenty of viewers that DO MISS MS, BM, and MM. You may like their replacements, but how can you? GT has been lying in a bed, while JH won’t even show up until November. Ridiculous statement.

    The show is in trouble. I don’t drink your Kool-Aid.

    davlestev1 replied

    Child you TRULY need to us spell check…LMAO

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    davlestev1 replied

    See what you did..USE..not us..LOL

  6. Kim H. says:

    This sounds like terrible news by everything I’m reading .I hope this guy doesn’t kill my favorite soap like I’ve heard he’s done to other shows.

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  7. Reagan says:

    Get ready for more new characters, because that’s always what new writers always mean. I would rant again about wanting veteran characters back or how we — at the least — want fan favorite actors from other soaps instead of casting the Burgess (Billy) types. But, it won’t change the minds of TPTB.

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  8. davlestev1 says:

    This can not bode well after a little Googling. Allegedly he had no intention of writing for daytime again but the EP pay increase sealed the deal. This is most likely going to either make CBS turn back to the original thrust of the show..or try to sell it to another network before dropping it altogether. Why not just go back to the original 30 minute episodes and save the show instead of trying to alienate viewers??? This is gonna be bad..I like the man…but this is gonna be bad.

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  9. Desiree says:

    Hate it.

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  10. Eileen Hargis says:

    Just another stupid move by JFP!

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  11. Desiree says:

    The other two better stay.

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  12. Cassie says:

    At least Y&R won’t be boring now. But this was a bad choice. They should cast a co head writer to balance out the crazy. I suggest Kay Alden, John Smith, Sally Morina or Trent Jones.

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    Jimmy replied

    I agree, I think co-head writing teams fare better because there isn’t just one person making the story decisions, there are two. One focuses more on character development and day-to-day stories, and the other focuses on over-reaching story arcs and the intrigue/action/suspense aspects that keep the story interesting. Recently Y&R has tended to have stories drag out for long periods of time, but if there’s enough interest and action to keep the stories relevant, they won’t bore us to death like some this past year have.

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  13. john says:

    I guess Dylan’s going to become the new mob boss of Genoa City.

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    jaybird369 replied

    John…dude…P-L-E-A-S-E don’t say that!!!!! Dylan is ANNOYING ENOUGH ALREADY…LOL!!!!!

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  14. aria says:

    he ruined the show twisted once he took over, so i don’t think yr is going to fare any better.

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  15. Alan says:

    Congratulations DAYS OF OUR LIVES — you’re about to give up your position as the lowest rated soap.

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    nancy replied

    sounds about right

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    woo replied

    Days Of Our Lives is only in last place because of politics. Days is the better soap point blank period.

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    Matthew Place replied

    It’s not all politics. Some long-time viewers are not watching because Days has trashed so many vets and esp legacy couples: Jack and Jen (Jack’s dead and Jen’s paired with Dr. Hair Product!); Bo’s MIA on a crazy non-case (after all, Stefano who’s in Salem much of the time) and Hope’s found a new love with a guy so boring he makes Dr. Hair Product seem downright exciting!; Marlena is moping around Salem trying to get over losing her true love while her true love John Black is in a coma and near death after being slugged on the head by Teresa; Kristen is being white-washed after doing the unspeakable while Nicole is being tossed under the bus with Eric saying he hates her. Hates her?! Couldn’t he say I “strongly dislike” her? LOL I’m sure there’s more. If it were only funny, but the ratings are no laughing matter. Days needs to treat their vets and their legacy characters better. According to some viewers, it’s killing the show. Many fans don’t consider Days the better soap BECAUSE the vets/legacy couples have been sacrificed and trashed. IMO, as of right now, of the remaining soaps, Days is doing the absolute worst with its vets.

    woo replied

    Talking about trashing vets, lets talk about victor newman and his foulishness and nikki back on the sauce. That doesnt speak original to me, but sounds more like someone push the replay button. I mean really how many times has that been done. Lets talk about Sharon and this hideous secret she has been keeping for about three month now or Phyllis being shocked back into livingi. Do you really want to talk about trashing vets? Really?

    Matthew Place replied

    Okay, calm down. No need to go off. I wasn’t disagreeing with you, I was simply adding to the thread. Your OP was about politics. I added that it’s not ALL politics. Longtime Days fans are less than happy about how vets, esp legacy couples have been written off, destroyed, split, killed off, etc. Days has broken up legacy couples in a way no other soap has. End of point. Period. That’s my opinion. Victor is bad writing. Nikki is a retread story. Sharon deserves better. Maybe Pratt will do better by her. Maybe not. But I hope so. Days has PO a lot of long-time viewers who have tuned out, many because of legacy couples being split, killed off, etc. The ratings reflect much dissatisfaction.

    Matthew Place replied

    If you’re one of those people who cannot allow others to voice their opinions, then I’ll avoid you from now on. Simple as that. Good luck.

    woo replied

    Matthew its all good man. Im not upset at all actually, We were just having a healthy debate. My tone was not one of anger. Please feel free to speak your mind and voice. Perhaps the error was in my delivery. Im sorry Matthew.

    Harry replied

    I agree that Nikki’s latest relapse is redundant. The idea of it bores me. But I watched Melody today act drunk and she’s very very good at it.
    It’s not easy pretending to be drunk without becoming a caricature, but she pulls it off seamlessly and realistically.
    I know many fans just want fantasy in their soaps but the truth is recovering alcoholics do fall off the wagon time and time again. As WC Fields once said, “I am a reformed teetotaler.” I just miss Katherine giving her one of her pep talks.

  16. I love gh says:

    Is he the person who decided to kill off Dixie with poisoned pancakes?

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    Alan replied

    I think that was Megan MacTavish.

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Yes, that was McTavish, I’m pretty sure.

    I love gh replied

    That sounds right. I’d hate to see YR go through what AMC did. It was hard to watch. Hopefully the YR execs recognize that changes need to happen & are trying to prevent a decline in viewership.

    I may love GH, but YR was my first real soap. Gotta gave the Newmans & Abbotts.

    I love gh replied

    Have not gave

    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    If true, Kelly better not eat a thing…lol

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    Jimmy replied

    It looks like Kelly’s going to have her “last supper” in breakfast form pretty soon

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    Matthew Place replied

    Nope. It was McTavish. Pratt made Erica a cougar, killed Babe off when tornadoes struck Pine Valley, brought supercouple Angie and Jessie back together with a backstory some people hated, etc.

    Matthew Place replied

    Pratt made their backstory somewhat ridiculous, it seems, and he brought Dixie back from the dead after McTavish’s deadly pancake breakfast had taken her away several years before. He wasn’t all bad, he brought Dixie Coonie back from the dead after she’d been a ghost! Yikes!

  17. Michael says:

    Probably means Robert Guza will join as well. He and Pratt co-head wrote at GH for a time.

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    Jimmy replied

    If Guza joins Y&R, I’m officially done, no turning back, nothing. That CAN’T happen. Then again, that’s what was said about JFP and Jean Passanante joining the show, so I guess it could happen. But that would definitely be the last nail in Y&R’s coffin.

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    Laurie replied

    Remember when Emmy award winning Nancy Lee Grahn who plays super smart no nonsense lawyer Alexis Davis on GH stepped completely out of character & taped down her chest every day, donned a goatee, wig, glasses & uniform & got a job as a male butler named Dobson in the Quartermaine mansion in order to see her daughter whom she had lost custody of? Nobody caught on even though they all knew Alexis. I think that was Pratt & Phelps.

    The thing that stands out to me more than anything though is how the mob stories started to completely dominate the show-General Hospital under him.The violence & darkness of it permeated the once, quiet, mid-size town in upstate or western New York. This regime:JFP, CP, & Guza were the culprits I believe. Pratt wanted everyone to know they weren’t glamorizing violence! REALLY? REALLY? He said it was important for fans to understand that when Sonny and Jason kill people, they suffer repercussions. Sonny often breaks down, shuts himself off from the world, dumps whatever woman he has in his bed that week, visit w/Jason. They both discuss their pain. Jason discusses his pain w/little or no emotion, cause he’s robot boring. OH- THEY NEVER GET CAUGHT OR GO TO PRISON FOR THEIR CRIMES. Pratt likes the bad guys to be heroes! They brush themselves off, and get back to work killing people. Nothing learned-repeat cycle.The women in their lives, forgive them, take em back, beg to be let into their hearts, then spit out the mobsters babies all over town. Then get dumped again. REPEAT

    Pratt in particular doesn’t care much for character driven storylines or romance, he said. He likes adventure, action driven ones. He likes dark, doom & gloom, & he loves turning lovable characters into knife- wielding psychos.

    I think he has a sense of humor though. Thsee are just my opinions. Not the gospel.

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Doubtful, although I suppose anything can happen. When Guza returned to GH the last time, it was only because of a guarantee from ABC that he, and not JFP, would have the final word on story/writing. I can’t imagine he’d get the same guarantee from Sony.

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    KMB replied

    OMG, Pratt, Guza AND JFP?

    The stuff that nightmares are made of……….*shudder*

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    Harry replied

    Since you all are much more adept than I am for assigning writers to soap stories, I have to ask? Who was responsible for turning Laura Spencer into a comatose zombie? It wasn’t enough that they let her go, they had to let her go with a humiliating storyline. The woman with a smile which could light up a room was wheeled her off in a wheelchair with her mouth held open in a stupor.
    I think that might have been Jill Farren Phelps’ work.

  18. Kelly says:

    Finally someone listened and got JP and SA out of there. I was so sick of not being able to watch the show that I had watched for over 35 years. Their love for all things Sharon and having Shick on every freakin day was driving me crazy. They had a year to have it come out what Sharon did to Summer and they chose not to even though many fans were begging them too.

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    debster replied

    what show are you watching? Nick and Sharon on everyday? If you were watching for 35 years and not a ‘jonnie come lately’, you would know that the Sharon of the last 5 to 6 years is not the one that first came on the show. It is not in her character to change a paternity test, that’s your girl Phyllis’ style.

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    davlestev1 replied

    What post are you reading?? @debster..she’s clearly stating the style and changes to the show after so many years made her turn it off. Now she’s going to come back and see what it’s like. No need for the harsh retort. I understood what she was saying without the filter you used while reading this.

  19. Kathy says:

    This will be a disaster waiting to destroy Y&R. Please stop this.

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    Tess replied

    CBS & Sony have allowed this witch to systematically wreck Y&R. Our favorite actors were run off and he boy-toy was then shoved down our throats. She should be fired, but yet she stays to continue to ruin Bill Bell’s wonderful show. You know he’d be heartbroken over this mess.

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    jaybird369 replied

    Tess…h-o-n-e-y…you are a woman after my own heart!!!!! Thank You. Back in the day, some of my ALL-TIME FAVORITE Y&R characters were Carol, Casey, Cole, Derek, Julia, Liz, Lorie, Ryan, Skip and Tony#2. To me, those 10 Y&R characters from long ago were VERY WATCHABLE!!!!! Unlike Avery, Barton, Dylan, Lily, Summer and Tyler!!!!! And those 6 are just for starters!!!!! And, Tess…I didn’t know that that JFP even had a S-Y-S-T-E-M…LOL!!!!! Sorry…I couldn’t resist in making a joke here. Bottom Line Here: TOTAL HEARTBREAK PERIOD!!!!! Total dreck.

    Take care, Tess. XOXOXOXOXO

    jaybird369 replied

    Kathy…girlfriend…as far as I’m concerned, A-L-L of those Poseidon Adventure movies had WAY LESS DISASTER than the current Y&R mess…LOL!!!!! Shudder.

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  20. Sue says:

    Well this doesn’t sound good, don’t know his work. why would Y&R hire another “soap killer” and a “has been writer” Where Are all the good daytime writers? Maybe JFP will be on her way out, let’s hope so.. don’t think I can take another round of the Phyllis show!! FF a lot now!!

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    debster replied

    That’s what’ coming….the Phyllis show part II.

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  21. Chaz says:

    Wow! Between Phelps & Pratt they must be trying hard to kill Y&R.

    Why the soap world is so insular that they are constantly recycling producers, directors and writers is a mystery. Why don’t they seek out new blood, new talent instead of the same old tired hacks who have proven track records that are dismal?

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    JFP+CP = R.I.P. Y&R

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    Harry replied

    What is Claire Labine up to these days? No, I am not inquiring about her height. I mean, what is she doing? That woman could write some damn good character driven stories.

    Michael replied

    Good one Jim!

  22. Pav says:

    Charles Pratt is the most hateful writer of soaps I’ve ever seen. He has no respect for history, for the fans of soaps or couples, or story. I would say Y&R is in trouble, but it’s worse than that. Y&R is screwed, just like AMC was.

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  23. Mike says:

    Wow. Explain to me how someone with his track record of the last few years actually gets this job? It makes no sense. Despite what Y&R has been the last few years, it still has been able to barely hold on to the reputation of a quality classic soap – but Pratt’s quality is Melrose Place. His collaboration with Guza on GH turned all the women into brawling harpies (usually, with each other) and his writing on AMC was the death blow to that show. His prime time stuff is okay, but he brings daytime shows down! Why does Jill always wind up having a writer of very questionable rep on her shows, ones who usually do great damage before all is said and done?

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  24. Janice says:

    Terrible decision for Y&R! I feel for their fans. Most shows that he has written for have been cancelled. I blame him (among a few others) for the destruction of AMC. I did a happy dance when he was finally fired from AMC!!! The man just doesn’t seem to give a darn about story telling, honoring history of the shows, nor what the actresses/actors think — just ask a few from AMC.

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  25. Beth says:

    It’s possible that Chuck Pratt has learned some valuable lessons from his disastrous time as AMC HW, but I’ve read so much from so many actors from AMC who thought he was the wrong man for the job for alot of reasons that I can’t believe anyone could change and improve that much. I can tell Y&R is desperate from some of their recent hires and story decisions and I sincerely wish them well, but this guy is not the answer. He’s a primetime guy, and a schlock writer, in a daytime world where story development, payoffs and character-driven stories count, and he has shown he can’t do any of that. Not even close. From what I’ve read from various actors, every time his story flaws are pointed out to him, his ego refuses to make any adjustments. This move will result in either Chuck having a short reign at Y&R, or the show will tank even more than it has over the past year. But I wish Y&R well despite it all.

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  26. Avatar610 says:

    Bill Bell is turning over in his grave. The deconstruction of Y&R continues……..

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  27. Scott (ATWT Fan) says:

    Well, the “fans” got their damn wish. CBS and Sony listened to the continued negativity that those who constant spew hate out into the world, and now we’re stuck with a hack who does not believe in characters or their history to the series. Shelly, Jean and Tracey were doing so well in really bringing consistency back to The Young and the Restless, and now they’re going to bring it back to the dark years (Maria Arena’s reign) with Chuck in the position.

    I give it six months to one year before we hear that another head-writing regime is coming in. Not a good move CBS and Sony, stop messing with a good thing. The current (or should I say) former writing regime deserved more time to make their stories work in full-term.

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    Harry replied

    And here Y&R was finally getting interesting again. This is good news for Steve Burton. This is bad news for Tristan Rogers–an incredible talent and a fan favorite.

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    Jimmy replied

    I would say the real “dark years” was Lynn Marie Latham’s reign, MAB was bad but not as bad as LML. But Y&R definitely didn’t have a “good thing” going right now. Jean Passanante was wrong in every sense of the word when they hired her. Shelly and Tracey do not have the experience to be head writers, or co-head writers. And while I do agree that writing teams need time to make their stories work, giving some the benefit of time only makes things worse (i.e. LML, MAB).

    Y&R hasn’t been truly great since Kay Alden and John Smith left. THAT is who they should have brought in to replace the current team, not CP Jr.

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  28. Michael says:

    Might as well start the funeral music and get our hankies out. Y&R will be canceled for sure with Chuck Pratt-DipShit now the head writer. The writing on Y&R is just fine these days. The show has gotten a lot better over the last couple of months. Why mess with a good thing?! Oh wait, I know, Jill wants to run this show into the ground and have another credit of killing off a show on to her resume.

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  29. Andrew says:

    I agree with Kristen. Good luck fans of Y&R. A writer with a creative track record this bad doesn’t get hired unless he’s being hired to kill a show. I think AMC was badly damaged before he got on board (the 2005 Babe/Bianca/Baby switch) but he definitely killed it most sincerely dead. And, along with Bob Guza, created a “General Hospital” that killed off how many Quartermaines?

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  30. Timmm says:

    He was hired to take the heat away from Jill Farren Phelps.

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    Laurie replied

    I agree with you Timmm! Can Guza be far behind?

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  31. Mo says:

    Who is he replacing? Don’t know how I feel about this. I watched SB, but that show got cancelled, as did AMC and SB so don’t know if this is good news for Y&R.

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    Mo replied

    Just noticed two soaps with SB initials.

    I watched Santa Barbara, and second SB is for Sunset Beach.

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  32. jonboy says:

    YnR fans have been clamoring for a change so I hope we all get behind this. The man evidently has a ton of experience. And, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the AMC cancellation more about a network ploy than the quality of the show?

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    Travis T Thomas replied

    Um I watched AMC. He started the beginning of the end with his Crappy writing. The ratings took an even bigger nose dive with his era. He basically gutted a lot of vets, and got mad when people pointed this out. He just got Twisted cancelled when he took over. I think he’s actually great in primetime, but thats a diff kind of writing. He and Guza also killed off most of the Quartermaines and he made all the women passive. So Im not behind this based off his record. He has no respect for the history of shows, or the soap fans. His style of writing is more Melrose Place.

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    Harry replied

    Travis, you said it all for me. Thank you

    jonboy replied

    Not much we can do about it. Just have to wait and see and hope for the best.

    Travis T Thomas replied

    Not trying to be a bitter betty. I just get so frustrated with the Idiots In Charge who keep making one bad decision after another. Now to find out it was between Sally Sussman Morina who has a track record and trained under Bill Bell & this hack,they went with the guy who has basically ruined every show he touches. The reasoning being because SSM is gonna bring back that Bill Bell style, and for some reason Steve Kent doesnt want that.

    It was the accepting of Hack writers that led to the cancellation of SIX soaps because we as a audience just always assumed the soaps would be there good or bad. I really would be doing the happy dance if this was Lorraine Brodderick, SSM, Kay Alden, or Jack Smith. But nope the Execs went with the guy that ruined MP when he took over, ruined AMC, and just got Twisted Cancelled once he took over.

    How do people that fail at their jobs consistently, continue to get hired over and over. It sure doesnt happen in the real world. Why in Daytime?

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  33. 4ever DAYS says:

    Expect a lot of changes for Y&R that cause nothing but deeper muck!

    Y&R is in trouble!!!

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    su0000 replied

    Y&R has been in big trouble ever since it lost the 3 powerhouse loved actors MS, BM, MM .. they were a great part of Y&R ,they were the best of Y&R ,they were a good part of what made Y&R good, and they are now realizing they are not replaceable and the loss of the 3 has damaged Y&R..
    Bringing Pratt in is their hail mary play..

    Whenever a new head writer/producer is brought in it is because the soap is in trouble..
    Fact is– Y&R needs change , it needs great change, and Sony believes Pratt can deliver change ..
    And– Y&R needs change, no doubt of that..

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    nicole replied

    So I guess Y&R was non existent until these 3 actors showed up.lol

    Good to know the 25 plus years before MS showed up were nothing. :)

    Actors come and go it is the writing that ultimately keeps the show alive or kills it. MM and BM were blips in Y&R long history and as we have seen can be replaced.

    BTW Y&R’s ratings went UP again this week.

    4ever DAYS replied

    Pratt = splat!

    Ruby S replied

    Y&R had a future in the form of MS, BM, and MM. Their characters may have been recast, but these actors haven’t been REPLACED. How much Kool-Aid do you drink lady?

    BTW, the ratings have been steadily in decline. One week isn’t a trend darling.

    Shemar Moore’s stunt drive-by casting was the cause of last week’s rating increase. Anyone who has a clue knows that. Try to get one.

    Real Deal replied

    Hey Nicole, the new ratings just came out and Y&R’s numbers just crashed and burned, just as expected. No Shemar, no viewers. GH is gaining on Y&R and Billy Miller shows up on GH in October. Watch out, who has the momentum?

  34. mfarris70 says:

    There are so few head writers in daytime that even the worse come back around simply by the fact that they can get the show done, however unpopular they are with fans and critics. Surprised that Megan McTavish hasn’t popped back up somewhere.

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    Harry replied

    I wish she would. McTavish was good!

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    Harry replied

    Sorry. I am not very well versed on the who’s who of writing the way you all seem to be. I didn’t mean McTavish. I meant Claire Labine who was responsible for the very thoughtful, gut wrenching, heart breaking story involving the heart transplant on GH. “BJ’s Heart” was a story which was not only character driven, it involved almost all of the characters from GH.

    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Harry, I’m so glad you wrote back to clarify! I was scratching my head over that. Megan McTavish is another one whose name I’d just as soon never, ever see in any show’s writing credits ever again.

    And I agree about Claire Labine–but unfortunately she’s one of the ones I refer to who have said they will never work in soaps again. Too bad. She’s terrific, and she knows and remembers what soaps are supposed to be.

    jaybird369 replied

    Harry,

    Back in the day, didn’t Claire Labine write stories for Ryan’s Hope (a soap that I miss VERY DEARLY)??? I wanna say that she did, but then again, I could be wrong.

    Take care, Harry. Peace.

    jaybird369 replied

    Hi Harry,

    Over the years, whenever I think of ALL-TIME GREAT soap writers, I immediately and automatically think of 3: (1) Kay Alden. (2) John F. Smith. (3) Most of all…Claire Labine. As for other soap writers over the years…not so much. Sorry.

    Take care, Harry. Peace.

    Alan replied

    Claire Labine created Ryan’s Hope with Paul Avila Mayer and wrote show for its first 8 years or so.

    Chaz replied

    Not being ageist, but part of the issue with looking to hire the truly talented writers of the genre is that they are all in their late 60′s to 70′s. Kay Alden is 67, Labine even older. I don’t doubt that they still have the capabilities but, I wonder if TPTB factor age as part of the hiring process. (Pratt is 59)

    The world of daytime is almost incestuous..constantly rehiring “from within” as it were. I cannot believe there are not capable people out there who could either be promoted from a lesser writing staff position or that could be sought out who would be able to bring decent story and use a show’s history. Soaps are too eager to use the buddy system,whether it is for behind or in front of the camera positions. JFP is infamous for it, hence the FOJ moniker (Friend of Jill).

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    Harry replied

    Michael, please feel free to slap me and say “Snap out it!” anytime I make such an insane statement again. I am not very good with names.
    Yes, Jaybird, I do believe you’re right–Labine did write from Ryan’s Hope. That series was almost too good for day time–it was so well written and the actors were all believable.
    PS> Have you been catching Kate Mulgrew, formerly Mary Ryan, in Orange is the New Black? She should have received an Emmy for her performance as Red. Also, the actress who played Madame Levine on OLTL is in OITNB. She plays a bit of a bully named Butch.

    Harry replied

    Chaz, you’re probably right and it’s sad. Agnes Nixon is up there and she can still deliver a good story.

  35. Mark says:

    This is not good news

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    su0000 replied

    I think it will be good!!
    Y&R needs some dead bodies by violence and Pratt is good at killing off a star or two for big drama..
    Perhaps he will Kill off Sharon!! that would be good..
    Pratt does not write lovey dovey, and that is a good thing and he has no fear of killing off a core character..
    I can see guns!! Y&R has no guns! pratt will give us guns!! :)

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    Jimmy replied

    Fantastic, so now this will further JFP’s quest to turn Y&R into GH 2.0, we’ll have shoot-outs and multiple deaths and hey, maybe Dylan will even become a mob boss as another user said. Great.

    NO! GH is good, but Y&R is not GH. We don’t need a bunch of characters dying or a hype on violence to make Y&R great again.

    Laurie replied

    I get your sarcasm su0000. Can you imagine if CP & JFP killed of the Newman’s like she did the Quartermaines?

    Nicole,
    I understand that stories make the shows great, but not by themselves. If the actor can”t execute the scenes or tell the story well, it turns people off. There’s nothing wrong w/change sometimes, but losing such strong & fan favorite actors all at once is damaging, epecially when they’ve been in fans living rooms for years, 15 years in case of 1 of them. Not to mention the 5 Emmys they have between the 3. Even so, it seems like Y&R is rising in ratings again finally. That’s why I have NO IDEA why they made this move by hiring CP. But maybe it will work out for all involved. Hope so.

  36. mike says:

    Better to bring back Maria Bell, this guy does not care about a shows history . He will be even worse than she was.

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    debster replied

    I hear you, but please no more Maria Bell.

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    Nikki replied

    I hated Maria Bell’s tenure, too, but she, or ANYONE, is better than JFP and Chuck Pratt.

    Jimmy replied

    To be honest, I would take MAB back over Pratt or Passanante any day.

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  37. B&B Fan says:

    Another soap going to get ruin now.

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    su0000 replied

    The only reason Sony would bring in a new head writer would be;
    Y&R is in trouble, not doing well with the current writers..
    Sony wants a change…
    Sony wants new ideas and new direction for Y&R to go in..

    Bringing Chuck Pratt on was not a quick decision, there is a plan for bringing him on.. CHANGE so be ready for a different Y&R..
    Sony knows what direction they want Y&R to go and brought in Chuck Pratt to make it happen..

    Thing is; Y&R for the past two years has stunk, it has been empty and stagnate and Sony knows that and brought Pratt to change it, and Pratt with his own special way of writing will change Y&R, no doubt of that.. lol :)

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    Harry replied

    But you have been bashing Pratt and Guza while singing the praises of Carvilati.

    nicole replied

    Y &R is still the number one soap, because it has stayed with its roots. It is a character driven soap. That is why I switched from GH to Y&R.

    If you like plot driven stories then GH is for you. I hope that Y&R stays true to character driven drama.

    The worst thing that could happen to the show is for it to be something it isn’t. Like New Coke or the Zune. :)

    su0000 replied

    Harry..
    I have never bashed Pratt and Guza.. I like them both..
    I’m looking forward to seeing what Pratt will with do with Y&R, gawd knows it can’t get any worse lol..
    Pratt is fearless!! I like that..

  38. takeitish says:

    I hope he learned his lesson from when he turned AMC into the “Prat Crap-Tacular”! Hope this time he has learned the characters, their history, the background of the present stories, the history of the past storylines ECT. And actually writes for the characters that are on screen and not the ones that exist only in his head. Good Luck!

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  39. Jimmy says:

    The positive: Jean and Shelley are not head writers anymore, thank god! Jean has no right to helm any writing team after her slaughter job on ATWT. As for Shelley, she is not experienced enough to be a head writer. So I’m glad they’re both downgraded.

    Also, at least Y&R will be a bit more exciting now, because the last several months have been dull and boring.

    The negatives… and there’s quite a few:

    I didn’t watch AMC or GH when Pratt was there, I started in the Garin Wolf days. But from what I hear, even Susan Lucci said Pratt was responsible for AMC’s downfall. And if that’s true, this is the last thing Y&R needs right now.

    What shocks me most is WHY Jill Farren Phelps is still there! Has NO ONE thought the biggest problem with Y&R right now is her leadership? Yes, the writing isn’t the greatest, but it has slightly improved throughout the summer. But for almost 2 years now, JFP has systematically turned Y&R into her newest hack job.

    What CBS and Sony needed to do was remove JFP, Jean and Shelley and bring in competent, seasoned, ACTUAL soap writers, not Charles Pratt Jr. or anyone of the sort. Kay Alden, John Smith, Hogan Sheffer, Lorraine Broderick (the list goes on). These are the people who should help a soap, not the Soap Killing Tyrant and her pets.

    I really hope CBS and Sony wise-up to their mistakes and remove these people before they carve Y&R’s cancellation in stone. Because as of right now, that’s where it looks like it’s heading.

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    Nikki replied

    I completely agree, Jimmy.

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  40. Bart says:

    OY! Another change at “Y & R” – just when the show was getting some of its strength back in regards to storytelling, they throw in Pratt – WHY????

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  41. aria says:

    this is proof that the talent pool for writers is very low in daytime. We keep seeing the same names popping up all over the place. You would think his resume would be impressive with all the shows he’s work under, but then you see all crap he wrote and ask yourself, how the heck did this guy get hired again. I’m begining to think we will soon see Robert Guza jr pop up soon most likely on Y&R, god bless them…

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  42. Mark says:

    La Lucci almost quit AMC because of him

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    aria replied

    guess she wont join the show any time soon!

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  43. 4ever DAYS says:

    The only consistency at Y&R is inconsistency!

    New writer = cast and character exits and new characters. Storylines will be lost in the shuffle!

    Days of our Lives is as consistent as the sands through the hourglass!

    Don’t be a YawneR…Stay awake for DAYS…A constant pleasure!!!

    You’re never too old to play in the sand!!!!!

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  44. Harry says:

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

    Why, why, oh why would they hire the grim reaper of daytime to be head writer? I remember watching AMC about five years before it’s cancellation, and it occurred to me that they were trying to ruin the show. When I heard that AMC had been cancelled, a soap I had been watching since I was 12, I was almost relieved. It was akin to watching a loved one become someone else with sickness and almost feeling happy for them when they passed away. That is how bad AMC became under Pratt.
    Excuse the exaggeration but I used it to illustrate a point. Under Pratt we had the lovable Tadd bury a man alive allowing him to die a slow and torturous death. We also had Erica’s aborted fetus come back to haunt her as an embittered young man and finally, we had Dixie die after eating poisoned banana, peanut butter pancakes (who would eat those anyway?–sound dreadful!).
    Unless he has learned from his mistakes, the hiring of Pratt is the death knell for The Young and the Restless.

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    Harry replied

    Opps- ‘its’ not, ‘it’s’. And since I returned to correct my mistake, I have to add that Pratt is the one who famously said after he was hired as head writer for AMC, “I don’t think the history of the characters is relevant.”
    He doesn’t believe in character driven storylines.

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    su0000 replied

    heh
    I think I’m going to like Pratt ..
    anything is better than seeing Sharon giving a long speech at Cassie grave 20 times a year for over a decade..
    And maybe he will demand that Lauren get a 20th century hairdo and get out of the 70′s.. trying to look young by having a 70′s hair style doesn’t work..
    Pratt may well be just what Y&R needs :)

    LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION !! (action)

    jaybird369 replied

    Hello Harry,

    A little while ago, I was reflecting and thinking back to some of my ALL-TIME FAVORITE AMC moments featuring Gloria. I have 3 particular favorites which (to this day) STILL brings tears and all to my eyes…

    1. Remember when Gloria eventually saw the error and all of her evil ways (or whatever) and (from there) worked DAMNED HARD to turn her life around????? W-o-w……….
    2. Remember when Gloria took Myrtle’s advice and moved into Myrtle’s boarding house for a while????? Myrtle was so WONDERFULLY PROTECTIVE like that!!!!! Then…from there, remember when Myrtle asked Grace (Noah’s troubled aunt who ALSO started to turn her own life around) to help Gloria get settled and situated into Myrtle’s place????? Not only did Grace help Myrtle out by helping Gloria, Grace (in general) put her own grief, pain and issues aside in order to show someone else (aka Gloria) some compassion, kindness and understanding. Harry, to me, that is an example of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!!!!! Yes.
    3. Finally, remember when Myrtle and some other Pine Valley characters got together at Myrtle’s and threw Gloria that FAREWELL PARTY because Gloria wanted to leave Pine Valley and make a new life and all for herself in California????? Again…w-o-w……….
    Ah, Memories. Sigh.

    Take care, Harry. A-C-E-S!!!!!!

    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Pratt was indeed dreadful in every sense of the word, but I’m pretty sure that all three of the storylines you refer to were penned by Megan McTavish. I even remember Michael Knight’s love letter to Megan thanking her for giving him such great material to play. (Yes, I know: character destroying would be more like it, but actors don’t always see things the same way we do.)

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    Harry replied

    You’re probably right, Michael. I am getting my hack soap writers mixed up.
    But I have decided to have high hopes for Pratt.
    The man needs a job for Hades’ sake! He might have learned from his mistakes and will happily surprise us all.

  45. David says:

    If he was the “Poison Pancakes” guy fear for the future of Casy McClain’s character if “Nu Phyllis” chairs a charity breakfast event.

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    su0000 replied

    Pratt killed off Dixie!! BRAVO!
    ok– I love Pratt !!! :)

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    su0000 replied

    forgot to add..
    I bet Cady McClain /Dixie now Kelly is thrilled to have Pratt back!! lol
    Perhaps he will kill off Kelly, too :)

    Alan replied

    Megan MacTavish was the head-writer that killed of Dixie with the poisoned pancakes not Pratt.

    su0000 replied

    ohh geez i had hoped for Pratt being the killer of Dixie..
    Then my congrats goes to MacTavish, she did a good deed .. bravo!!

    Alan replied

    The death of Dixie started AMC’s decline which Pratt only accelerated once he came on board.

    Killing off a beloved heroine is never a smart idea and MacTavish added insult to injury by killing off Dixie before she and Tad could be reunited with their long lost daughter. Dixie’s death came across as nothing more than a ratings stunt to create interest in a story no one cared about (The Satin Slayer mess) and damaged the overall fabric of the show by cutting out a fan favorite who was beloved by viewers.

    jaybird369 replied

    su0000,

    1. Cady McClain is a WONDERFUL actress who has had a long and successful career in soaps and is STILL going strong.
    2. Back in the day, Cady’s AMC character of Dixie Cooney Martin was (and always will be) TRULY BELOVED. And…later on…Cady truly ROCKED AND ROLLED as Rosanna Cabot on ATWT (the role of Rosanna Cabot which, btw, was originally played by Yvonne Perry).
    3. More and more, I think that Cady is WONDERFULLY knocking it out of the park as Y&R’s Kelly (sorry, Cynthia Watros). I really do.

    Take care. Peace.

    Harry replied

    Thank you, Jaybird. Yes, Cady is a naturally gifted actress, always has been. I remember the day she first showed up in Pine Valley. At nineteen, she literally fell off the turnip truck along with her brother Will. Liza Colby met her at Myrtle’s boutique and called her insipid.
    And she was was poetry with Tadd. God, I miss Tadd!! And I will never forget the day she stood up during little AJ’s Christmas pageant to sing,”You are my sunshine” back when Adam had her institutionalized. Oh those were the days.

    jaybird369 replied

    Hi Harry,

    1. IMO, Cady McClain doesn’t get enough recognition as an actress. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
    2. Oh, yes…those MOST DEFINITELY were the days!!!!! Sigh.
    3. Harry, remember way back when (1989…I think.) when Dixie HAD HAD ENOUGH and hauled off and S-L-A-P-P-E-D Adam????? To me, that was such an E-P-I-C soap moment and (most of all) the ULTIMATE Soap Slap seen ’round the world. And…Adam was such AN ARROGANT ASS who had it coming!!!!! Yep.
    4. To me, Adam should have been the one to be INSTITUTIONALIZED and N-O-T Dixie!!!!! Remember…Adam was all kinds of N-U-T-S upstairs/in the mind…LOL!!!!!
    5. BTW, my ALL-TIME FAVORITE AMC characters were Brooke, Cecily, Dimitri, Dixie, Gloria, Marian, Nico, Stuart, Tad and Zach. And yes…I miss Tad, also!!!!!

    Have a good one, Harry. A-C-E-S!!!!!

    Harry replied

    Thank you for the lovely unraveling of memories, Jaybird.
    Yes, I do remember that slap heard from around the world. Young Dixie standing up to that capitalistic bully was a thing of beauty for sure.
    I agree–she’s a really good actress who is so good, she makes it look easy which could account for why she is underrated.
    And you may be the only other person I know who liked Gloria. I loved Gloria.

  46. damien says:

    not sure why there only seems to be twenty producers/ writers who keep getting recycled throughout soaps , obviously soaps are an afterthought behind shit like meredith veira and talk crap!: all i can ask for in Pratt is the following: pls bring back the classic old music score that s distinguished y n r as a classy soap! pls continue the high quality look of the show, the lighting, sets and wardrobe have been aces lately!
    as far as characters go pls pls pls no more new characters, its the m.o of all new head writers! do your job and research the characters we love! pls bring back nina for the chancellor set, jill and colin are limited!
    pls write for leslie and tyler they were such a breathe of fresh air when they were first introduced! pls bring back that stud muffin carmine for abby!
    lastly pls respect bill bells vision for the show, young and the restless is not 90210 or melrose! write for the core families, the abbotts, newmans , winters , and chancellors!!

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  47. Ricardo says:

    Please bring back Maria Arena Bell, she was way better than these clowns. I Know that the young and the restless got renewed last year, until 2017. But I am enjoying Meredith Baxter as Maureen. Sign her to a contract, hopefully nikki and Maureen continue to be drinking buddies. lol.

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    jaybird369 replied

    Ricardo…y-e-s!!!!! More and more, Maureen is such a WONDERFULLY BAD INFLUENCE on Nikki…LOL!!!!! Yep.

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  48. Rob says:

    The Titanic of Daytime just hit the iceberg.

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  49. vinman says:

    Pratt’s a HACK!!!!

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  50. Nikki says:

    They might as well just announce Y&R’s cancellation now.

    This legitimately breaks my heart. I stopped watching Y&R soon after JFP came on as EP because her and her several hack writers were making the show unwatchable, but Y&R was almost like an heirloom in my family, a show my great-grandmothers, grandfather, mother, and I all watched and to see CBS making such horrendous, damaging choices is like watching someone you love wasting away.

    I can’t imagine JFP and Chuck Pratt together. Their separate reigns of terror, not just at ABC, but at several soaps were so terrible, putting them together is just setting up for Y&R’s worst days in history.

    I’ll admit that Chuck Pratt did fine in primetime; I liked his shows on ABC Family, especially The Lying Game, but he has NO business being back in daytime, whatsoever. He is an awful daytime writer. He does not care about history, he does not care about romance or humor, he does not care about legacy characters, and he does not care about the actors he writes for. EVERYONE and their mother knows that he is the sole reason All My Children was cancelled. Now he is paired up with JFP who only cares about one or two good episodes a year so she can win her precious Emmys. General Hospital, during her tenure, would have also been cancelled by ABC, with All My Children, if it hadn’t been more “famous” than One Life to Live.

    I don’t understand what CBS is doing. I don’t know if they WANT to ostracize soap fans, get Y&R cancelled, make William Bell turn in his grave, I just don’t understand. What I do know is that Y&R keeps slapping fans in the face and I can’t be the only one who wants to slap them right back now.

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  51. Mary SF says:

    Oh my— so much doom and gloom and the man hasn’t even started yet– but I lost count how many times over the last few years I heard that Y&R was done for and yet it is still on the air. I am not saying there isn’t reason for concern. It is never a good sign for Head Writers to change this many times in such a short time span. The soap formula works best with consistency. One clear vision is needed for each soap, but with each new writing team that vision changes, and I like most Y&R fans I am weary of changes.

    All I know is if Y&R the leading soap in the ratings goes down, the remaining three soaps will go down with it. As a realist I know that day is coming, whether it happens within six months or six years, it is only a matter of time. The continuing story genre will evolved into a new format– either as telenovels, or limited run series on the web– but the glory days of daytime dramas known as soap operas are numbered, and that isn’t this gentleman fault—

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    boes replied

    You’re right about our genre as it currently stands. The past few years have shown us that our remaining shows are on borrowed time, being by networks that no longer have an investment in them.

    But when I remember – and who could forget? – what this man did to AMC, I very much resent that Y&R will be messed about with, characters ruined, and a rich history not only disregarded, but scorned, I not only understand the gloom and doom, I believe it. No matter how time Y&R still has, I don’t want it to be tortured the way he did AMC.
    This is a man with a public, recorded, disdain for the genre. And he’s been brought on board by a woman who has already hurt the show.
    The cast, the crew, the viewers don’t deserve having to see yet one more show brought down this way.

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    Mary SF replied

    Boes– I do get what you are saying. I rarely watched AMC, so I cannot speak to that situation, but as a fan of Another World, I watched that show as it was written into the ground, so I know it is a very sad thing to witness. It is a little like watching a dear relative slowly dying and you are helpless to stop it.
    My point was that this man hasn’t even started so we don’t know what is going to happen. Yes, his past with AMC would suggest he will destroy this soap as that one– but he also had many successes, so there is no reason not to hope those successes might include this show. Unlike JFP whose history of destruction is consistent, unless I missed something, it seems the only soap his writing harmed was AMC– and there could have been many reasons for that, which not apply this time. I do not subscribed to the theory one person, whether writer or EP is solely responsible for a show’s demise– if this show tanks, it will be a variety of reasons, including hiring this man, if all these predictions pan out, but not because of him.

    Nikki replied

    There’s so much “doom and gloom” because this man has publicly said he does not care about characters, especially legacy characters. There’s so much “doom and gloom” because this man has no respect for actors, especially respected ones. There’s so much “doom and gloom” because this man is basically responsible for All My Children’s demise. He is NOT someone who should working in daytime, ever.

    As for what you said about soaps, I don’t think that is true. Aside from Y&R, the three other soaps have been doing better than they have in years. General Hospital has seen a significant rise in quality, as well as ratings. Days of Our Lives as been doing alright. Bold and the Beautiful is steady as always and, of course, still very popular overseas. But you are right, if Y&R is cancelled, it won’t be Chucky Pratt or Jill Farren Phelps’ fault… it’ll be the idiots who hired them, that will be at fault.

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    su0000 replied

    Nikki..
    you said-
    ” if Y&R is cancelled, it won’t be Chucky Pratt or Jill Farren Phelps’ fault… it’ll be the idiots who hired them, that will be at fault.”

    It was Jill Farren Phelps who hired Pratt ..

    Mary SF replied

    Nikki– thank you for your reply. I truly understand the reputation this man has, but I also see he has a lot solid writing experience in both daytime and nighttime. The saying history repeats itself in this case can go either way– His history includes many achievements in writing, but in also includes that epic failure at AMC. I have no idea why that happened, whether he simply didn’t care what he wrote because he was sick of the genre when he wrote for AMC, or perhaps paid to tank the show on purpose— always a possibility. All I am saying before assuming the worst let us wait and see which side of history his tenure of Y&R lands on. As for the other soaps, it doesn’t matter how well they are doing, if the number one soap for the last 25 years goes down, all the networks will use it as their excuse to get rid of their remaining soap– trust me networks just waiting for that excuse– all our shows are living on borrowed time, so lets us enjoy them while we have them.

    jaybird369 replied

    Nikki,

    The fact that Chuck Pratt would say that (and PUBLICLY!!!!!) says to me that he has NO BUSINESS being in the soap industry PERIOD!!!!! Moron.

    Have a good one, Nikki. Peace.

    Lew S. replied

    Mary, Thank you!

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    jonboy replied

    Great post! Agree with you completely.

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    boes replied

    Thanks for your reply, Mary. I hear what you’re saying and maybe this time will be different. There were other factors at work with AMC, particularly Brian Frons.
    And it sure doesn’t hurt to hope!

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    Travis T Thomas replied

    Mary I get what u are saying as well, but I wouldnt go as far to say he has a Solid Primetime Track record either. Yes he wrote for Primetime, but most of those shows were cancelled after a few episodes. Twisted-Cancelled after he took over for the 2nd half of season 1. Titans-Cancelled. Melrose Place-went bonkers the moment he took over with all the over the top craziness in Season 4 after Darren Star left. Models Inc.-Cancelled. His Recent Primetime cred has been EP on the pilot episode of Desperate Housewives. And being EP and writer on The Lying Game, but ABC Family runs a tight ship so it was steered pretty well.

    There is a huge difference writing for Daytime vs Primetime. 13-22 eppys a year vs 250+ a year. With all the above mentioned, its not the best thing having a writer for a show that looks down on the genre and feels hes “Slumming” it in Daytime. I want someone that cares about the Genre and not just in it because they made him an offer he couldnt turn down financially. Which basically says he’s not there for the passion and love of the genre. And he and JFP together again after the huge blunders they made at GH and Santa Barbara is kinda scary.

    There are Headwriters that truly love this genre, but they are passed over for Corporate Yes Men. I’m a firm believer that you cant make the same choices and expect a different outcome. Thats what got us in the predicament we’re in. We as soap fans just kept watching saying lets just enjoy it even if its Schlock. And we ended up with SIX soaps gutted within a short window of time because of the same recycled crappy writers being used. In real life we wouldnt hire the mechanic that screws up all of ur friends cars, or hire a lawyer that loses all his cases, or go to a doctor that never gets his patients healthy. So why do we do it in daytime.

    Im actually more upset by the fact that he got the job over Sally Sussman Morina who is a Bill Bell disciple and trained under him and knows this show like the back of her hand. But of course Steve Kent and JFP didnt want her because she is from the Bill Bell days and that cant be tolerated. I just want the best show possible just like everyone else. But based on his track record in BOTH Daytime and Primetime, Im not sure if I can put my faith that this will be any different. And Im not just basing that off of AMC, but GH, Santa Barbara, and recently cancelled Twisted that was amazing before he got his hands on the show.

    I will wait to see what happens, but he is def a plot driven writer, which works great in Primetime, but YR is a Character Driven show and he has already said on record that he doesnt care about Character history. That comment in itself speaks volumes.

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    Mary SF replied

    Thank you for your insights. And you’re right the best soap opera writers are those who love the genre, not those who are writing it because there is a paycheck and that’s it. Perhaps if money is a motivating factor they should offer writers bonuses for stories that increase ratings and cuts in pay if the ratings tank– but I don’t think the writer’s union would go for that.

    Part of the problem lies viewers, when they write character driven stories many will complain they are bored and want action, when they write action others complain there are no stories of the heart. So no matter who is writing there will be viewers who will hate what they write and others that will like it.

    As for the character history, that history can be a blessing and a burden. One of the reason the Star Trek movie franchise got rebooted was because the history became so much that any new plots ideas got bogged down in the history. So JJ Abrams ( I think it was him) solved that problem by wiping out that history by changing the time line, so all the characters could be reinvented and refreshed and that basically saved the franchise.

    So as a writer if Mr Pratt says he doesn’t care about history, he has a point– This show is over 40 years old, and some writers would find that history a hindrance to their creativity if they are chained to what so many other writers did before them over forty years.

    In some ways history is the problem with soaps. I mean how many times have Victor and Nikki married and divorce. If that story line could have ended when most stories would have ended, we wouldn’t have some of the silliness we have now on soaps, such multiple marriages to the same partner, bad guys that never go to jail, children aging overnight, just to get a new character in there tied to the history and people coming back from the dead– to bring back a character another writer killed off.

    So although I don’t agree with the way he said it, but he does have a point about the history angle. And frankly I don’t find any of the remaining soaps staying true to their character’s histories either.

    But in end the network might be trying to destroy the show on purpose to get rid of it. And if they ruin it by driving viewers away — they get their excuse to get rid of this 40 year old show. And if that is the case then they could hire the next Shakespeare to write this show and they will still find some way to destroy it.

    su0000 replied

    lol
    so many in panic over something that has not happened..
    Pratt has not written one word as of yet..
    I think he will put the fire back in Y&R which needs any change it can get, badly..
    Y&R could not get any worse so Pratt and his new vision can only be good ..

    ABC is not ”trying to destroy” Y&R it is a money maker, and as long as it makes money ABC will nurture it and smile all the way to the bank….

    I seriously dont believe that half know what they talking about Pratt ruining history stuff, they just repeat others opinions and what others assume lol ..

    Pratt was with AMC for about a year and most the stories were ongoing from the writers before him..
    AMC was going to be canceled with or without Partt..
    It was on the chopping block when Pratt was brought in, AMC was flatlining then..

    When fans dont like something they blame and blame and blame anyone within two feet of the story ..
    Pratt will be a good change for the boring stagnate Y&R, it needs someone with a total different plan/direction for Y&R and the boldness to put it in action, and Pratt is the one who can do that..
    Y&R is nothing but long conversations between couples and long boring stories, it needs to have a fire put under it.. and that is the reason Pratt was brought on, Y&R was in trouble :)

    It will be good.. Y&R will move forward with a desperately needed new life :)

    Travis T Thomas replied

    Well what I mean by history is using the history to build on new stories. I truly believe that this show DEFINITELY needs some Young SL’s going on. I feel like this show is doing nothing with the Younger generation of YR.

    My example of using history to further the show is like TNT’s version of Dallas. Everything going on right now is rooted in past mistakes, vendetta’s, and sercrets while still pushing and driving story forward. The Younger kids are driving story while the Vets in Supporting roles are still apart of the show and more in the B SL’s. And I like that. I still get my Bobby, Sue Ellen and Cliff, but Im really enjoying the younger kids screwing up and fighting for what they want. That past has a foot in the future, and thats good storytelling.

    Not doing what past writers did, but building on it, and taking it forward. It would have been amazing if this show had truly GONE THERE, with Summer and the Cult thing and truly showing how when we’re lost and vulnerable we can truly get caught up in that kind of self help guru talk and really lose ourselves, to have Nikki and Paul be the ones to breakthrough and Save her, thus truly sending Victor and the Bug over the edge for a real reason. My mama always said that the past always has a way of rearing its head.

    For me Noah, Summer, Another Abby, their BF’s/GF’s should be in front burner stories. I mean Bill Bell knew how to write Young Scandalous people, Social Climbers, Shady People, all fighting to love and be love. That was what YR stood for. These Young folks just sit around and do NOTHING. No jobs, no life, no parties, They are just there. But also so many folks are so caught up in relieving the past, they dont wanna move forward in a good way.

    I always say every character that they wanna see started off to someone before them as a new character. I mean hellz, Terry Lester left just cause he hated The Bug getting screen time. But I love how Bill Bell infused the show at the right time with Danny, Nina, Lauren, The Bug, & Phillip, all young kids, that drove story for years. I think some of the older Viewers have to let the Younger characters move to the Frontburner, but not pushing the Vets aside either. But it is time they take on more supporting roles in these stories. There stories can be developed from fallout, or taking sides in the Younger Characters. Bill Bell knew how to balance both. We need a hero writer. YR had a style unlike any show. For me it was the Grand Ace of Storytelling. All of Mr. Bell’s work seems to be crumbling with no true leader steering the ship. I grew up watching this show with my Grams, so for me I started watching as a kid, when that group of Teens was on. So I have a fondness for them all. But Im ready to see these Younger kids step up. But with good Stories to tell. This show has been more Restless, and not that Young in awhile. If only someone would re-read Bill Bell’s original bible they would get it. But I guess if those in charge dont care like I do, Im gonna stop being upset. We dont get paid for this. They do.

    Travis T Thomas replied

    Firstly su0000, Im not in a panic. At the end of the day its just a TV show. Im in a panic on more important things going on in the world, like War, Economic woes, and racial divide. Just giving my honest opinion about a show I love from an actor/writer perspective on the situation. Im sorry if Im not taking on ur Rah, Rah, Pratt is gonna be awesome mantra. Im happy that u seem to be campaigning for him HARD. But as I said before my opinion of him is based on BOTH of his Daytime and Primetime resume. One that I think is spotty at best.

    Usually in this Industry, if a bad movie is made it IS usually the Producers and writers that are blamed. If a movie doesnt make money, u think heads dont roll over at Sony, Dreamworks, or Paramount. Just a few weeks many top execs were put out of their jobs because they are bleeding money left and right and many of their Summer Movies tanked.

    I find it interesting that the moment every new showrunner wanted to take the show in a “New” Direction is the moment this show went downhill. And that started with LML and her new vision for the show. And since then, this show has truly not gotten its complete footing back. We all want the best show possible, but I, and Im only speaking for myself, dont think he is the right person to do that based on his track record and Im not talking about AMC.

    Also I was wrting this from the perspective of now knowing that this position was between SSM and CP. And I respect her work and think that based on her knowledge of this show that she would have been the better person and a better fit for the job.

  52. Shelli says:

    what about JFP?

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    Jimmy replied

    Unfortunately the Satan of Soaps is still there… but apparently Chuck Pratt’s executive-producer status was to put JFP on notice, if things get worse there (which they will), she’s out.

    What they should have done when making this switch is fire both head writers (Jean and Shelly) and JFP, and hire competent, intelligent and insightful leaders. Ed Scott or David Shaughnessy would be great for EP and Kay Alden, John Smith, Sally Sussman Morina, Hogan Sheffer, even Lorraine Broderick as head writer. THOSE are the kinds of changes needed, NOT Chuck Pratt.

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  53. Ghlover says:

    LOL as if Y&r could get worse. Guys, give up on that show and come watch GH and DAYS. Wayyyyyyy better shows

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  54. Cassie Hicks says:

    What about Jean Passasante? Is she out as head writer of The Young And The Restless? ;/

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  55. jonboy says:

    Quite seriously, what is there really left for Victor, Nikki, Michael, Paul et al, to do that they haven’t already done? Look at Nikki…back on the bottle….again. YnR has wiped the slate clean before (does anyone remember the Brooks and Foster and Prentiss then-core families?) and has survived.

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  56. Michael (not Fairman) says:

    Frying pan, meet fire.

    How they could rid themselves of Passanante, an absolutely dreadful writer, and manage to replace her with Pratt, who, though perhaps a better writer, can’t write within character and ultimately does equal damage–or worse–in his own way, is beyond my understanding. I know that a great many of the truly talented writers will no longer work in daytime, but honestly, how about taking a chance on somebody new, if this is the best you could do from the grab bag of same-old-same-old names?

    And I don’t get the logic about the pay. Not all headwriters make the same amount of money; it’s not as though there’s a salary scale. They can pay him whatever they want to pay him; they don’t need to give him an EP credit to do it. So I’m wondering if it was to somehow put JFP on some kind of notice.

    Whatever. My prediction is that Y&R will still be unwatchable; it will just be a different kind of unwatchable. What I remember from his time at GH and AMC, in addition to his inability to observe even basic rules of character development, was incredible levels of misogyny (of course, that’s probably why Brian Frons loved him).

    Unbelievable.

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    Jimmy replied

    I agree with everything you said, and I loved the Brain Frons comment! I, too, don’t understand why they would bring in someone like Pratt who will likely continue the downwards spiral that Y&R is in with his own brand of systematic character assassination.

    It made no sense to me why Jean Passanante of all people was hired as head writer, does no one remember her slaughter job on ATWT? And now they bring in Charles Pratt, and equally terrible (and possibly worse) choice, without even a co-head writer to balance out his inability to write character-driven stories. Does no one remember what became of AMC during his reign? Even Susan Lucci herself credited him with destroying the show.

    How on earth these people continue to get jobs writing in daytime, or anywhere for that matter, remains a completely mystery to me. They don’t deserve to be writing for Y&R, and Y&R, its cast, and its crew don’t deserve the havoc and treachery they’ve experienced because of JFP and her merry band of soap killers.

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    su0000 replied

    Pratt earned three Daytime Emmy wins–
    one for Outstanding Writing Team and two for Outstanding Drama Series. He also picked up three other nominations.
    good nuff :)

    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Passanante has some Emmys on her shelf too, I think.
    ;
    Let’s look at what a daytime Emmy in any category actually means: You had three (two? one?) episodes during the year that you could submit that showed sufficient quality that they got chosen as the best of the ones nominated. It would be hard to imagine that anyone could get a writing job and not be able to produce at least that many. That’s tremendously different from producing good work across the year. (I’ll also point out that it’s entirely possible to produce three episodes that look terrific to someone–such as a judge–who doesn’t watch the show but that an actual viewer would know had big, big problems with things like continuity or plausibility or context.) I’m not saying that some good writers haven’t won Emmys or that the process is always wrong. But I think it misses as often as it hits.

    Harry replied

    Emmys are completely meaningless.
    As far as Pratt is concerned and fans so called, collective “panic”?
    The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.

  57. Jonathan Williams says:

    He destroyed Melrose Place believe it or not. Darren Star left the show after season 3…Season 4 is when it became over the top without the fun. ….I don’t understand how this man continues to get work.

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  58. Michael (not Fairman) says:

    I had to go back and do some Google-searching to remind myself what Pratt’s storylines were on All My Children (because there were so many dreadful writing regimes, one after another). All I can say is I barely did justice in my last post to how completely lacking this man is in regard for characters he inherits–who they are, what they’re like, what they might plausibly do, what they would never in a million years do. (You can certainly shift characters’ personalities and have them do unexpected things, but you have to do it very carefully, and you have to make the audience buy it. And that kind of thing is even more important on a show like Y&R, which had that tremendous degree of consistency for all those years when Bill Bell was alive.) It’s plot, plot, plot for Mr. Pratt, and if characters have to be sacrificed to his “great” story ideas, so be it. And it’s not as though there’s anybody around to rein him in.

    As I said, a different kind of unwatchable: that’s what I suspect is coming.

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    Jimmy replied

    “And it’s not as though there’s anybody around to rein him in.”

    That’s the biggest problem with all this! It’s not like they hired Pratt and another writer, making them co-head writers, to balance out the writing and incorporate both character AND plot aspects into the stories. He’s in complete control of the stories, and if the rumors are true about his executive-producer status being a way to put JFP on notice, then one day, will this man have COMPLETE creative control of Y&R?! We saw how well that worked with Lynn Marie Latham and then Maria Arena Bell.

    This is a recipe for disaster. I thought it was bad when JFP was hired… then came Jean Passanante… and now this man… I’m truly worried for Y&R’s future now. Like Highlight Hollywood said, this is just JFP lining up her ducks in a row in case of her firing. She wants to make sure Y&R and its fans feels the remnants of her reign of terror even after she’s gone.

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  59. MJ says:

    My fingers are crossed that Phatt (Phelps and Pratt) don’t ruin Y&R too. Charles Pratt is very inconsistent. He was wonderful during his Santa Barbara days (still the best soap ever in my opinion) but was dreadful on AMC. I do want say that a number of people are blaming JFP for bringing him on, but I truly believe that decision was made way above her pay scale. Sony knows when things are not working. I think Sony does much more puppetry than people may realize.

    I’m wishing Phatt all the luck in the world!

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  60. MJ says:

    Sorry…it should read “My fingers are crossed that Phatt (Phelps and Pratt) doesn’t ruin Y&R too.

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  61. davidevansmith says:

    I had to research to find that Pratt worked from May 2008 to November 2009 on AMC, but I truly don’t remember the stories he was responsible for. But I do think he was the one who literally called the cast into a meeting and told them all to forget about the history of their characters because that didn’t matter anymore and to focus on how he was choosing to write their characters now. I think it offended everyone in the cast in one fell swoop.

    He and Guza were the bane of my existence when they ran GH, and I can NOT TOLERATE the ego with which he conducts himself. If ever there was a death knell, this is it. And I’m not big on being that fan who says the sky is falling, that’s too melodramatic for me, but I’m sure this will bring a lot of turmoil to the show. Canceled? Maybe not. But there will be damage left in his wake, I’m certain.

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    4ever DAYS replied

    The sky may not be falling but the earth is opening up!

    Run as fast as you can to “Days of our Lives”… A show worthy of more viewers!!!

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    Jimmy replied

    Another user commented “Is Guza next?” and I’ll repeat what I said in response to that, if Guza joins Y&R, I’m completely done. It’s bad enough that we’re getting Pratt, who doesn’t care for character history at all, but if Guza’s on the way in too, then they might as well rename Y&R to “GH 2.0″

    I don’t want to see my favourite soap and its characters become completely unrecognizable, and that’s what I fear Pratt is going to do to this show. JFP has already instituted so many changes, but I think at its core, Y&R is still there… for now at least. I really hope Pratt doesn’t repeat his work on AMC here.

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  62. Jordan says:

    I am actually shocked by this news. Hiring Chuck Pratt is no more than a “coup” as it was to bring in Lynn Latham. They both don’t understand daytime and have had zero success in it! They know how to shock and awe the audience which works in primetime serials that air 10 to 20 episodes per year. What they don’t realize is daytime airs around the clock and you can’t just multiply the number of shocks and awes with the numbers of episodes. You need to fill in the gaps with strong character development that respects history. From everything I have read, Chuck Pratt does not do this and does not have the attitude that indicates he can learn from mistakes and change.

    I honestly cannot wrap my mind around this. Why THIS change? Why now? I really felt Jean and Shelly were restoring the show and it was getting really close to feeling like the good old day of Y&R again. What was the problem? Ratings certainly didn’t rise into the 5 millions again, but they weren’t any lower than they were under Griffith or MAB. They were steady, and showed some signs of growth.

    It honestly feels like we are repeating history here. This is 2006 all over again. Fixing something that is not broken with what CBS/Sony believes is a “big name”. I can tell you right now, I heard Sally Sussman Morina also interviewed for this job, and Y&R fans would be so much happier to hear she was returning then to hear of Chuck Pratt taking over. I hope they realize what a waste of money this is.

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  63. Simple Whore says:

    My condolences to Y&R. Chuck Pratt famously ruined ‘All My Children’.

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    su0000 replied

    lol
    AMC was on a respirator when Pratt came in during its last year..
    It was being canceled, behind the door, when a show of trying to save was made..
    AMC was destined to die with or without Pratt ..

    Sony and all the powers that be have confidence in Pratt or he would not have been hired.. He has his way of doing things and apparently Sony and all concerned see Pratt as the one needed for Y&R to survive..
    Y&R is not doing well, if it were doing well there would be no need for the turnover changes to attempt to bring it back up ..
    There is a reason Pratt was brought in ..

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    Alan replied

    Pratt didn’t come in during AMC’s last year — he wrote the show from 2008 to 2009 — and the show was cancelled in 2011.

    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    LOL, you really don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinions, do you, su? As Alan has pointed out, Pratt’s time at AMC was several years before the end, not in its final years. I think Lucci’s point was that he wrecked the show so badly that it no longer had any chance of recovering.

    As for Sony and all their confidence, they had confidence also in Latham, in MAB, in JFP, in Passanante . . . . I’m sure you’re right that they think Pratt is the one needed for Y&R to survive, but their track record in finding the right person for Y&R does not exactly inspire confidence.

    On one thing we certainly agree: Y&R is not doing well.

  64. pattie from philly says:

    Chuck is a big “champion” of Jack Wagner. Word has it, Jack W is in final talks to join the show as a contract player and will be a major part of the show. Part of his deal will include him singing on the show in support of his new CD, and planned cross country Tour.

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  65. Mark Y says:

    Yeesh. We’re still talking about Michelle Stafford, Michael Muhney and Billy Miller?! Put your sticks down already. Enough.

    How did Pratt ruin AMC exactly? I was not a viewer.

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    4ever DAYS replied

    I have a sister who was a die-hard AMC fan (she called it “All My Kids”). She said characters were no longer written in character. Chuck Pratt wrote what he wanted without considering the history of AMC and the characterizations.

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Right. It’s not just the neglect of characters’ histories (as has been discussed elsewhere in the comments). It’s neglect of their established personalities, having them do things that are totally out of character with no real attempt at explaining it or making it believable, for the sake of giving them what he considered a great story. On AMC, it was so bad it was bewildering. You just sat there day after day for the first few weeks saying, “He did what?” “She just did what?” “Did she just say what I heard her say?” I’d say he has a sense of what’s dramatic, but he doesn’t understand that on a soap (unlike, perhaps, a nighttime show, although it’s hard to believe you can really get away with it anywhere) existing characters have established personalities and you have to start with those personalities. You can certainly move them in new directions and maybe even have them undergo dramatic changes over time, but you have to take the viewer with you and show it happening so it’s understandable–not just decide one day that a person who has been X is now going to be Y, because you have this story you want to tell and it requires the personality change.

  66. Iakovos says:

    Why, if the writers named in this thread are so disappointing, do they get jobs time after time? Y&R was the classiest of soaps once upon a time and could be again. Does anyone feel loyalty to the late Bill Bell or appreciate the talents of those he mentored? I would turn to them before outsiders to make improvements that follow the series’s original vision. I pray Y&R can right itself. It has been a tough few years.

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    su0000 replied

    There are only a select few soap writers..
    Writers do not want to write for the soaps, it is very very demanding and only a certain type of writer would even want to get involved with soaps..
    The writers are bashed and complained to excutive to fire them because the fans don’t like this or that..
    soap writers should get a medal ..!!
    soap fans, in my opinion, scare anybody new who might consider writing for a soap.. Writers have seen the carnage and most likely have been warned..
    We are vicious creatures when it comes to our wants and needs from a writer..

    Their is a graveyard full of fired soap writers due to the fans :)

    I doubt there will ever be new soap writers of any quality ..
    it takes a lifetime of writing a soap to get the job ..

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    No, not the fans–the execs (at least in the cases I am aware of). Between the execs’ meddling and micromanaging (and changing stories in midstream) and their bad ideas (which the writers are then expected to make work, and are blamed when they don’t), any number of former writers whose work viewers valued/praised will not work in soaps anymore. The good ones who might have taken their place (i.e., somewhat younger than the big names and would have been the “next generation”) probably got wise and left as soap writing became a less-promising career (both in terms of working conditions and in terms of there being fewer soaps and so less likelihood of being able to build a stable career in soap writing, as one could, once upon a time).

    Fans do bash the current crop of writers mercilessly, I will grant you that. It is often deserved, however (although I do suspect that sometimes what the writers get blamed for is actually bad decision making from somebody above them).

  67. Chaz says:

    Question for Michael Fairman… I know that ABC (not sure of the other networks) used to have mentoring programs for writers, directors, etc. Are those still around? And, if so for all the networks, why aren’t they used to find fresh talent?

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    jaybird369 replied

    Chaz…I think that is an EXCELLENT question!!!!! I wonder about that myself. Yep.

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  68. Matthew Place says:

    To start, a few weeks ago when Y&R ratings were hitting all-time lows, I said JFP wasn’t going anywhere (despite rumors to the contrary), I said there would be a change in the writing regime. That has now happened. IMO Pratt will be either really good for Y&R or really bad.I doubt there will be any in between. Pratt’s style of writing is esp hard for older viewers to grasp and follow (no offense, I include myself), so it’ll probably not be that great for a lot of viewers. It seems he doesn’t write “classic” soap per se; it seems he does soaps ala Revenge-type writing, you either love it — or you hate it! If this is correct, Y&R will not be returning to its roots and apparently CBS/Sony did not want that because SSM was passed over. Very sad. I would have (tried to do) done cartwheels! JMO

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    Matthew Place replied

    Despite my assessment above, I am going to give CP a chance, but I’lll do it expecting that he will write plot-driven stories and speed up the writing. Unless he does a complete change-about, his writing is not character-driven and I don’t expect that from him. Still, although Y&R improved in recent weeks, the writing still was off: Jill digging into a blind Neil was painful to watch and made Jill look really “brash if not sassy”! The music box also proves the current writers cannot plot/carry a mystery/suspense SL very well. I wonder, though, why they didn’t make him an addition to the current HWs? Guess he’s a “name” and would not share the playpen! We’ll see what he can bring to Y&R, hopefully not total destruction (some of the posts re: CP scare me! MO and that’s all.

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    Mary SF replied

    Y&R was like a family business that was sold to a corporation — it will never go back to its glory days– those early days are now under the file labelled over. It is rather ironic that this soap that started off being the radical upstart that change the style and look of soap opera is now being seen as out of date — It is because of Bill Bell’s vision that Chris Pratt’s soap Sunset Beach even existed. And when all the copy cats had come and gone, Y&R was still there.

    Yes, it is shame they didn’t go with SSM, but Sony is a business they care about money and they are banking that to go with the plot driven route that will bring in more modern viewers more so than what is now consider the classic style of Bill Bell’s era.

    As an older viewer I am loyal to fault and I will pretty much watch any story this show dishes out; I guess for me the I have resigned myself that might include all the citizens in GC turning into zombies or being invaded by aliens if it comes down to it. And when the show is finally cancel I will know for one hour ever day for over forty years I was entertained by truly moving stories of the human heart, the dreadful plots of passing fads, the ups and downs— for a soap, like life is full of everything, good, bad, ugly, surprise and wonder. And all that for free—what a ride, what a joy–it was and still is FUN.

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    Matthew Place replied

    Your last paragraph sums Y&R viewing up for a lot of us. But it’s never just a business for us fans. We just have to remind ourselves that it really is all about business, whether we like it or not. Maybe on a lighter note we should debate which show will be the first to get zombies (Days already had aliens, but that was under JER). I figure GH will be the first to take on zombies giving NuJason (BM) something to do! The mob takes on the zombie invasion! LOL

  69. Michael (not Fairman) says:

    One other thing that’s utterly baffling about this: Pratt has had no particular ratings success in his daytime endeavors. His time at GH was a mixed bag, ratings-wise; Santa Barbara’s ratings deteriorated while he was there, and All My Children’s ratings took a nosedive. So aside from all of the (legitimate) complaints one could make about his writing “style,” there are very good reasons for soap execs not to hire him, even if they don’t get why viewers don’t respond well to what he writes.

    Of course, the same could have been said about Passanante–I can’t think of a single headwriting assignment she has had in which the show’s ratings went anywhere but down, and they hired her anyway.

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    Matthew Place replied

    Michael, I agree with many of your posts. I would think Sony would be most interested in hiring a writer who could potentially bring the ratings, but they may seem more afraid of doing an old-fashioned soap. With Pratt, they may want a more modern feel for Y&R. I say may because I don’t know the logic behind the hiring of CP. Up until now, no writing regime has damaged the show beyond repair, here’s hoping CP doesn’t as well. I’m willing to try to enjoy the “stories” Mr. Pratt brings to Y&R, but I know his style of writing may hinder the ratings more than help them. Viewers may not take to his writing style — and that could be detrimental to the ratings. I think the brass should have gone with Kay Alden or Sally Sussman Morina, but they obviously have faith in CP and feel he can write the kind of show they want to produce. Maybe the biggest problem here is really that the fans want one kind of show and TPTB want yet another. TPTB never seem to listen to the fans, although some posters think they do and feel those who complained about the current writers are responsible for the hiring of Pratt. Nothing could be farther from the truth, the ratings slump, hitting all time lows for months, spurred Sony to make a change so now we have a new HW. Sony should have hired someone who could steady the ship, like KA or SSM and putting that person with the current writers wouldn’t have been the worst decision by far. I only worry that by hiring someone who is so alien to what viewers repeatedly say they want, Y&R will become less stable and in real danger. But it could just as easily have a good turn-out with CP at the writing helm. Sometimes we’re surprised and the results are good beyond what we imagined, let’s hope that’s one of these times.

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    Matthew Place replied

    This is one of those times? Hmm, I guess that makes sense. You know what bothers me most? It sometimes seems that what Sony really wants is GH! That’s really sad when Y&R is such a wonderful, well-respected show in its own right with such a rich history. BTW Familiar stories can be interesting if well done and with a bit of a tweak/twist, like Hollyoaks: Why does Maxine allow Patrick to treat her so badly? It’s an abuse SL but it’s interesting because of the twists and other people involved. Could be the future of soaps is in the storytelling. No more recycling the same-same. Could be that applies to writers as well, at least, a lot of posters have been saying as much. Yet I say how many baby stories do we need and people keep saying lots more because they’re interesting and have been shown to bring in ratings. Me, I don’t think I need another baby story unless it’s got a twist I haven’t seen yet. Come on, soap writers, challenge yourselves. I want something old that’s new. Well, it’s late and I’m tired. I know what I mean, and I hope you do too! JMOP

    Matthew Place replied

    Baby story means baby-daddy SL — and if there’s a baby-daddy SL, I would like the stakes raised so that more is at risk than learning the identity of the baby’s daddy! Boy, I’m demanding — or maybe it’s just been a long day!

    megan replied

    I think what we are all saying on this board and on many others, is why? what has Pratt done to deserve becoming a head writer at the most successful of the soaps? anyone who watched AMC under Pratt is still angry. He truly destroyed that show. He told the cast he did not care about character development–this is the soap genre!! It is all about character and story.
    We all agree here that Y & R has struggled under the last regimes, and while it seems a little better lately it is no where near the Bell era. JFP has been to my mind a failure, and it is a sham that she is allowed to hire her friends especially when they are failures in the genre. Pratt is her friend. A bigger question for me is why she hasn’t been fired, but all these writing teams come and go. When will she be held accountable? Y & R is without question the weakest of the four remaining soaps. It deserves better than Pratt, and better than JFP.

  70. Nikki says:

    His credits are good with the exception of being head writer for All my children before it went under. Mind you the writing right now isn’t much. It took a year for Phyllis to wake-up and she just left. No damage after a year of a coma & I’m sure we can all guess she shows up at the wedding or the big party for Sharon. There’s no more shock or suspense. Maybe this guy will bring it back.

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    Matthew Place replied

    Unless I miss my guess, this guy will bring it back. He worked with Daran Little on AMC; Daran has worked/works on Hollyoaks, Eastenders and Corrie. I hope some of Daran’s style rubbed off on Pratt because Daran’s work on these soaps, esp Corrie, has been awesome. I don’t know if he has a hand in current/recent Hollyoaks, but the writing there has been top-notch (award-winning) with twists that are subtle but interesting like Patrick being tempted to throw Maxine off the top of the nightclub after he sees her talking to another guy and later concocting a lie to blame her for his behavior. Not knowing what will happen next, not being predictable, certainly does add a lot of suspense and interest to even recycled SLs. Hopefully CP will be a bit more focused than MAB (who also did shock writing) and Y&R will benefit. No more music boxes! That SL will never make sense. Get Jill back in the business setting with corporate intrigue or something exciting. She’s wasted in this ridiculous SL that seems to be stalled and going nowhere. I’d love to see a mystery written well so that we can get caught up in it and really enjoy it.

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    Nikki replied

    I love mystery too but lets not have it go on forever like that damn music box will Jill over Katherine’s will. After so long it becomes boring. Nikki #1

    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    I love Corrie…dont get the other two…wish tvgn or another cable co. carried British soaps so more people here can see how wonderful they are…they put ours to shame…cant wait for all, especially Tracy, finds out Rob is Tina’s killer…probably the big reveal will happen on Rob and Tracy’s wedding day…would love it if Robs concious got the best of him and instead of Tracy in a wedding gown he see’s Tina and blurts out in front of the shocked guests like Ken, Dierdre(4get spelling) and Carla that he killed Tina Mcintyre(again spelling…lol)!!!

  71. Ruby S says:

    Pratt can blow up Y&R for all I care. The whole show has gone to crap under JFP. I blame MAB for letting Eric Braeden talk her into the stupid marriage between Victor and Sharon. It was total insanity and cost her the Executive Producer’s job. Her failure let Phelps in the door. We knew it would go down the tubes and it has. She’s run off the show’s top new talent and forced her favorite actor from GH down the viewers’ throats. Well, now she’s fired another set of head writers and brought on a known fool. Great. I can’t wait to hear Braeden howl about this new situation. He’s certainly one of the reasons the shows in the mess that it is. What’s German for “This is fucked up?”

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    Kaleesi replied

    LOL!! True dat. I would love to see the look on Braeden’s face when Pratt tells him he doesn’t give a damn about his character or its history…you got dat!

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    jaybird369 replied

    Kaleesi,

    True dat…a saying that I haven’t heard in A-G-E-S…LOL!!!!! As for Eric Braeden, maybe Mr. Braeden himself already knows…shudder. Kaleesi, BTW…GREAT POST AS ALWAYS!!!!! Thanks a bunch.

    Take care, Kaleesi. XOXOXOXOXO

  72. Matthew Place says:

    As long as Pratt doesn’t trash/kill off Sharon, I’m good. I have a feeling Sharon could be Y&R’s Maureen Bauer. I even feel Bill Bell may have known that Sharon (as he wrote her) was a grounding force for the show and would probably eventually become the moral center for the show (the trashing of her character certainly has not helped this cause, but I still think Sharon can become that ground force again, having learned from her mistakes, after all, no one is perfect, if she were, we couldn’t truly relate to her.) Note to Pratt: Hands off Sharon! I want her to remain, even if her and Nick just end up co-parents and good friends (drats!) Otherwise, bring on the drama!

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  73. Nikki says:

    Oh no there are 2 of us on here so from now on I’ll call myself Nikki #1. Anyhow I think he deserves a break. It has to get better than it is right now so time will tell.

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  74. Jared says:

    This isn’t a good idea. I guess Wall Street, Washington and Hollywood have one thing in common: failure is rewarded again and again and again and again and again…….

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  75. Don says:

    It is getting worst day by day this is bad news for the show according to his track records with previous shows that had been cancelled few years ago.

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  76. robert says:

    The fact that Chuck Pratt was hired over Sally Sussman Morina shows the incompetence and stupidity of Jill Farren Phelps. Highlight Hollywood reported that Phelps went behind sony and Angelica McDaniel’s back to hire him. I am appalled and disgusted. This soap is being drove into the ground. Their needs to be a lot of behind the scenes firings starting with Jill Farren Phelps. No one thinks this is a good idea. The fact tv guide says this is a disaster waiting to happen says a lot about this hiring.

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    Ruby S replied

    Pratt is one more nail in Y&R’s coffin. First JFP runs off Michelle Stafford, then refuses to re-sign Billy Miller, then fires and smears Michael Muhney. Then she shoves her boy-toy Stevie “Starin’” Burton front and center. David Tom is hired and fired as Miller’s replacement in three months, then Burgess Jenkis is miscast as Billy Abbott. Now Gina Tognoni is brought in as a total miscast as Phyllis. She is NOT Michelle Stafford, period. FAIL. Now, the next big disaster is Michael Muhney’s Adam Newman character recast. There’s no way stud muffin Justin Hartley will replace Muhney’s layered, complex acting. Y&R sucks, yet CBS & Sony keep the wicked witch and soap killer. The whole show deserves its fate. Cancellation.

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    k/kay replied

    People no one can predict the future please relax if cbs decides to cancel Y&R it will not be because of JFP she is small potatoes it will be because of CBS wanting to get out of the soap business. Politics!

  77. RobbieMpls says:

    Chuck Pratt being hired as a head writer is another nail in the coffin. Along with Jill Farren helps, they are sure to bring the show down (it’s only a matter of time).

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  78. Jeremy says:

    Pratt is great at creating wonderful drama on prime time soaps. I loved his work in Melrose Place and th spin off he created, Models, Inc. however, I forced myself to watch Titans. As head writer of AMC, he completely destroyed the series and I pity the faithful viewers of Y&R.

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  79. Jane Hansen says:

    I am quite appalled at the storyline on nick and Sharon and what a two faced, double standard, lying bastard HE is….the one who started all the pain the 19 years ago when he CHEATED on her to get poor little baby Summer in the first place!!!! Like he did nothing wrong…oh poooorrrrr Nick. He is a selfish jerk!!! He started it ALL. But oh no, he doesn’t take ANY responsibility! Come on. Open your writing eyes!!! I guess he was lying too during all her sickness and saying how much he cared….it gives men a bad rap!!! Just a pseudonym for real life how the jerks are so self righteous and arrogant….you’d better not have him win the custody, or you will have lost a viewer…not that you probably care, but….I know it’s just a stupid show…but, a symbol for real life sometimes…

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  80. Jo Egner says:

    HATE YOUR writing and the story lines this was a great show until you came along. I have watch it from the beginning and this is the WORST storyline a ever. Maybe that’s why all the other soaps are off that you had something to do with.

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  81. Karen says:

    I have noticed a change in the Y&R since the first of the year. I love it!!! I had to look to see if there had been changes. I thought the writers had changed because the story got so intense with everyone! Plane crash, building collapse, murder, Chris gets hit by car, Adam comes back, the affair’s….it all happened at once! We use to have to wait til Friday to see something that was being built up all week and then on Monday it would start all over again. I could watch Friday and Monday and know what happened during the week. Now I can’t wait to watch everyday! BTW I have watched the Y&R since day one.

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  82. Perry says:

    The show is terrible now. I know it’s a soap, but Victor gets away with everything. Eric Braeden needs to go. Oh excuse me, Mr. Mumbles

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