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130 February 27th, 2017 GENERAL HOSPITAL: Carly Hears Damning Evidence, Alexis Learns Identify Of Her Sponsor, Sam and Baby Remain In Peril!

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On Monday’s General Hospital, it was three women who were thrown for a loop – with one in dire circumstances.  First , after preparing to move back in with Sonny (Maurice Benard), Carly (Laura Wright) sits down with her mother Bobbie, (Jackie Zeman) who informs her that Nelle (Chloe Lanier) has been having an affair with the mobster! Carly does not believe this.

Meanwhile, Nelle who seems to have turned over a new leaf for the love of Carly’s son, Michael (Chad Duell) is trying to make sure all the evidence she created to make Sonny and Carly believe that she slept with Sonny remains out of Carly’s hands.  So, she tosses the flash drive containing the footage of their “faux” tryst into the garbage and deletes the audio file containing Sonny’s voice.  Later, Nelle gets to the office and looks for the package that she had sent to Carly.  Panicked, she finally discovers it thinking she is in the clear and, Carly will never know about her setting her up to believe she was having an affair with her husband.

However, after her visit with Bobbie, Carly decides to do some snooping of her own and hightails it over to Nelle’s apartment.  She sees the key under the door and lets herself in. Next, Carly spots the flash drive in the trash and sits down with Nelle’s laptop.  She hooks it up and begins to hear Sonny telling Nelle to never say anything about their bedroom romp!  Carly begins to see red!

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Elsewhere, as the search for Sam (Kelly Monaco) continues, Jason (Billy Miller) finds Alexis (Nancy Lee Grahn) to see if she has heard from Sam, and during the conversation, Jason shows Alexis a picture of Olivia Jerome (Tonja Walker), who Alexis spills is her sponsor! She has no idea it was Julian’s (William deVry) believed-to-be-dead other sister!

Meanwhile, it’s Jason to the rescue as he is clued in to that Sam may be somewhere near the bridge.  Sam is struggling to keep it together as she is having contractions, and trying to keep her unborn baby, Scout calm. Jason is calling out for Sam near the bridge, but they have still not connected.   Will Liv’s heinous revenge plot cost JaSam their baby?

So, what do you think Carly will do next now that she has heard evidence that would seem to say Sonny has been sleeping with Nelle?  Should Alexis not have been duped by her sponsor?  Will Sam be able to deliver a healthy baby, or do you think she will lose it?  Share your thoughts in the comment section below!

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  1. Tomas Torquemada says:

    How long have they padded out this storyline? A year? More.

    I blame the whole writing for sweeps thing. We get nothing but flabby writing for months and then they hit the gas for sweeps. Whatever the pay off is isn’t worth it.

    Same with the who killed Morgan storyline. Months of flabby writing the our beloved Tonja shows up to wipe up in a frenzy of crazy.

    I literally don’t care about Sonny Carly. Been there, done that. I FF through this. Then Olivia Jerome shows up and I want more

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    Alan replied

    Don’t blame sweeps, blame the writers.

    If you have to pad a story before you get to the payoff then you don’t have much of a story to begin with. It’s a writer’s job to plot a story arc, develop the characters, throw in plot twists to keep the pacing on track, and wrap things up in a way that generates future story.

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  2. su0000 says:

    ohh geez..
    A few friends were over while I had GH on screen..
    OK-
    when Sam was laying there moaning they started a chat; die die die die!
    So– we had to come up with ways to kill Sam..
    Since she is very hard to kill, walking dead type zombie it was said— gotta shoot her in the head in the brains!!
    Naww. we decided she would just walk around with hole in her head…
    Then it was hang her.
    Nawww, she would still live on with a hole in head and crooked neck..
    Then!! it was suggested to kill her Batman style, drop her in a vat of acid!!
    Anyways– we will find the perfect death for Sam, no worries.
    ((we, all really really can not stand her, nope.
    All suggestions will be considered!(if you have any to offer.

    (((of course Nell would be whitewashed, J&S have need to turn all bad guys into priests or nuns..
    Carly and Sonny will survive, that is what they always do; keep on keepin on luvin each other….

    ((I want Sonny with Ava! now, that would be something out of the rut/new game..

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    dmr replied

    su0000, I agree; the storyline with monotone Sam is anti-climactic. I am not a fan of Jason and Sam. I find them extremely boring. I think the storyline with Sonny and Carly would only be interesting if Sonny did have an affair with Nelle; although, no one really knows what happened that night…(I doubt anything happened).

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    su0000 replied

    hi dmr .
    Nell and Sonny didn’t do the nasty ..
    For 1 ( Sonny was Drugged and Drunk the man couldn’t perform not even he had taken a dozen Viagra, nope … LOL

    Right!! Sam and Jason seem to be roommates. They are zero=BLAH ..

    Sonny should get it on with Ava!!! It could never be ‘in love’ with them but it could be hot lust!
    hot lust is good, too ..

    Addison replied

    I don’t think Sonny had sex with that woman either.
    He was too drunk to make that happen, moreover, he has small hands.

    Celia replied

    This will be the crux of the matter, dmr. As I said, Nelle will have to tell one and all that the illicit tryst was a put-on…staged for whatever reason. There was no sex.

    su0000 replied

    Addison..
    J&S writing is soooo lame that it actually pitiful..

    Sonny, the day after- looking out window;
    ”What the hell happened! I can’t remember having sex with a pretty Young woman, that’s way too wrong..
    ah ha! ”light bulb” I didn’t drink that much ahhh the lil bitch drugged me, she drugged me!!!
    And- I being drugged I’d have never been able to get up..
    J&S are soo lame..

    Also- Note;
    Julian- handcuffed with free flowing chain cuffed hands free to move with a bag over his head..
    He could have dropped down his head lifted his cuffed hand up and pulled off the bag, easily, no problem, sigh ..
    ((heck he was able to scratch his nose!
    Another point of J&S stupidly lame..

    hey CC :)

    Timmm replied

    Jason shows life in scenes with Curtis and Sam comes alive when she is with her sisters.

    Addison replied

    Suoo, I do agree that the writing has more holes in it than Sponge Bob.
    As I queried earlier, what does Olivia Jerome have against General Hospital?
    And I had to fast forward through mumbling, monotone Sam trying to scream out for help. I also fast forwarded through Olivia’s histrionics and also Y&R’s Lauren’s histrionics.
    Why do soap writers think we viewers want to hear women caterwauling all over the place? On another note, if Olivia Jerome killed Sam, and Sam wrote the initials of her killer in blood the way Connie did it would read,”OJ.”
    Good thing OJ Simpson is still in prison, otherwise, Sonny would kill him!

    dmr replied

    su0000, I always welcome Sonny and Ava scenes. Maura West brings passion to Port Charles. I also love Ava and Scotty scenes!

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    Celia replied

    Oh, yeah, dmr!!!!! Ava’s my girl; as devilish as she is. No one else compares….and, yes, she and Scotty are unique—love their scenes together.

  3. Kevin O. says:

    Good episode, but… would ANYONE in Port Charles come to yet another Sonny and Carly wedding/vow renewal?

    Bobbie: “Carly, honey, you could use that money for more bodyguards.”

    Michael: “Let’s just donate it to the waterfront clinic instead.”

    Nelle: “Give it to me! That’s my money! YOU OWE ME!”

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    dmr replied

    So stupid, a vow renewal ceremony. I thought the same thing.

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    Celia replied

    Tell me about it, dmr….not only has this marriage thing between Sexy-Stud-Sonny and Camellia-Carly-Chameleon ( well, I actually loooove Laura W) reached its limit, but…..I can’t get starter, otherwise I would be stirring the same caca. I have only witnessed one wedding between these two….too bad for you guys. But, do not fret; take heart, dmr, my friend, it ain’t happenin’ not now, right?
    But, I’ll sneak it in, LOL….Griffin will always be a priest, in name only, but he has lost his rght to administer any sacrament, blessings, oversee a rite or whatever. He has been excommunicated by the RCC, when he ‘stepped’ out. I didn’t make the rules. Goes back to the Reformation.

    Mary SF replied

    when they mentioned the vow renewal I had a sick sense of deja vu– that Carly will hold on to the audio tape and play it at the ceremony– if they do that, not only would Jelly be ripping off one of RC’s stories (Franco revealing Carly’s affair with Sonny at his wedding to her) but they probably will not do it as well— so let’s hope I am wrong on that one

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    dmr replied

    I thought the same exact thing, when Carly starting to Sonny about the vow renewal ceremony…here we go again…another “wedding” that won’t happen.

  4. Celia says:

    I was, actually, a little taken aback that Felicia went to Atlanta to find out about Sonny’s and Nelle’s ” affair”. I was under the impression she had gone there to delve into Nelle’s background, whateven that might have been.
    I thought a thunderous discovery about her past would have put an end to all our speculations about Nelle’s familial link to Carly. Disappointing.
    Obviously, there’s more to come.

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    Shay replied

    “Obviously, there’s more to come…” Or is there, CeeCeeGirl???? (After all, we are still waiting to find out who’s Nathan’s bio-daddy!!!!!)

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    Celia replied

    Nathan…poor Nathan….beautiful Nathan!! Everyone has been so wrapped up in Griffin’s parentage that Nathan had to take a step back.
    Now, Nelle. She has a lot of ‘splainin’ to do. She will have to fess up and admit that she manipulated all of their lives.
    But, if she does that, then she needs to spill what compelled her to do it.
    Is she Bobbie’s daughter? Carly’s? Are we way off base?
    Shay, my love…you are probably right…another bump in the road?
    Well, this story needs to climax…..too much of a tumultuous effect on Michael and Joss…even Avery, as Bobbie said. I think that, deep down, Nelle really cares about this threesome.

    Addison replied

    Is there more to come? That is what we viewers kept asking during the infamous and abysmal music box story line from Y&R which was brought to you by Jean Passante (by the way, the new Y&R writing team is remedying that story right now).
    Is there more to come? Yes, indeed, that is the quintessential question.
    I found it odd that Nell suddenly abandoned her get-even-with-Carly plan when she was dead set on implementing it due to something unspeakably cruel Carly had done to Nell’s family. But suddenly she has a girl crush on Michael and she drops her plan? Really?
    By the way, the actress who plays Nell is an incredibly gifted little actress.

    Steve replied

    Nathan’s father is a plot point that has apparently been pushed way to the side. When last discussed, he believed Victor to be his father. When confronted by Helena, Liesl agreed that Victor was not his bio-dad. They apparently were the only 2 to know that until Helena told Nik. Or, did I miss something?

    What’s perplexing is that we’ve never seen Nathan comment to Nina that she married his cousin, if he still believes Victor to be his father.

    This is reminiscent of the years it took to find out who Sam’s bio-dad is. For years, Guza and Wolf apparently didn’t want to write an Alexis-centric story. It wasn’t until Cartini came along and reintroduced Julian and began to focus on Alexis that we got that answer.

    Celia replied

    @Steve.
    True, Steve. Liesl had vehemently stated that Victor was not Nathan’s father; that the genitor was someone a million times worse.
    My bestie Shay intimated (at the time and we still think) that it could only be Valentin.
    I actually suggested that Griffin could also be Valentin’s, which would make Nathan and Griffin half brothers.
    But, now that Valentin materialized, he just seems too young to me ( also, having been involved with Anna),…..yet, timelines and ages are not an issue on soaps…..anything and everything goes.
    So, if Shay’s theory is valid, then Nina married Nathan’s father. Let’s also remember that Nina and Nathan are not really siblings, but cousins.
    Is there a possibility that Nathan is Mikko’s ( sp)? I have not been watching for long, so I heard the name ( Helena’s husband) in passing, as it were.

    Timmm replied

    Nathan’s bio dad is the Tin Man from “The Wizard of Oz!”

    dmr replied

    & wouldn’t it have made more sense for Nelle’s friend to have contacted Nelle to tell her that someone was in town asking questions, investigating her? What friend would divulge that type of personal information to a total stranger? Just lazy writing.

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    Addison replied

    DMR, I understood that Nell planted that information and wanted this so called “friend” to tell Felicia about Nell’s fictional affair with Sonny.
    Or maybe I am wrong. Either way, you’re right–there are a lot of holes in this story.

    dmr replied

    Addison, I didn’t know that; thanks. I don’t watch the show every day. I only catch-it every now and then and watch it depending on the daily description of the episode. Gotcha, thanks!

    Jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Yeah, it was disappointing but i do know one thing…i bet Carly fires Nelle-lol

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    Celia replied

    You bet right, Jimmy. Are we sure about that? LOL.

    Shay replied

    Given Carly’s trademark trigger-hair reactions and “bull-in-the-china-shop” m.o., you are probably right, jimh, but perhaps for once Carly would be better served were she to play it cool and clueless for now and adhere to that old chestnut of invaluable advice, “Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer!”

    Shay replied

    Hey, CeeCeeGirl….I see that once again you have put on that thinking cap to divine the true identity of Nathan’s bio-daddy….However, in terms of Mikkos, unless he escaped his purported solidly-frozen state fate in 1982, then it would be virtually impossible for him to have fathered Nathan, save for the crazy notion that Helena harvested some of his “seeds” for future “planting.” LOL. Hey….on this soap, anything can happen!!!! But, in precluding that idea, the paternity path would still logically seem to lead back to Valentin, yet, now that he is in “flesh and blood” form in Port Charles, the likelihood that he should continue to be considered as a credible candidate for paternity also appears to be dwindling for a variety of reasons…..Sooo, then, who, pray tell, could be Nathan’s father???? Well, going back to the clues originally presented by Dr. O. herself, my only conclusion could be a certain politician known to operate in the dubious manner in which I suggested that Liesl fell pregnant in the first place, or to put it another way, perhaps Nathan should contact “Danney Williams” for a DNA test….they could be half-brothers????? (Okay, maybe I am jesting, but really, at this point, that’s all I’ve got…since nobody else I can recall in the show’s history lives up to the frightful reputation that Obrecht described….if it’s not Valentin, Faison, or even Jerry Jacks, then I cannot imagine any other familiar character that would fit that mold….including all the other assorted deplorable reprobates that have darkened Port Charles’ doorstep through the decades….)

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    Celia replied

    Hi, Shay,
    I can see that my initial response to your DNA inference did not make the cut. Mea culpa.
    You make a good argument…..Nathan’s parentage is as iffy as ever.
    So, the short version of Nathan’s ‘roots’ is: I do want Valentin to be his father, regardless of the obvious improbability.
    I love the sexy mystique surrounding the supposed Draconian Lord of “Wuthering Heights” a’ la Valentin.
    Faison is always a welcome figure on GH for me, but he is more cartoonish than anything else….soooo entertaining and hilarious. However, I cannot see Nathan as his son. Jerry Jacks?
    Well, neither of the Jacks brothers is inspiring for me, albeit I am quite aware of Jax’s female fans’ adoration.
    I hope that door remains open; that is, Valentin is still a contender as Nathan’s dad. Imagine the drama…the heads spinning!! Not to mention a confrontation between him and Liesl.

    Steve replied

    The only other truly scary character that might make sense would be Grant Putnam.

    Shay replied

    That’s a tantalizing thought, Steve….Are you speaking of “Real Grant” or “Faux Grant???” LOL. To my recollection, the “original recipe” Grant Putnam has been stashed in an English nuthouse for the past three decades and was the true loony tune in that twisted tale of the “Two Grants.” Then there was the Soviet-styled “Grant,” aka, Andrei Churnin(?) who became the doctor that Celia Quartermaine loved and married, right? He’s still alive, but didn’t he reform as an actual medico called “Grant Andrews” when last we saw him???? I remember he went off to the Middle East sometime in the mid-80′s. (Maybe he ran into Duke in that Turkish prison????)

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    Steve replied

    Shay,
    I’m referring to crazy original recipe Grant Putnam, the one with the violent dog who terrorized Anna and Robin. Perhaps, before he went completely off the handle, he met Liesl at a Swiss ski resort and had a passionate love affair. He would definitely fit her type of maniacal, Scorpio-hating psychopath.

    Shay replied

    WOW, CeeCeeGirl….So sorry to hear of your injury!!! (Skiing were you????) Hope you recover quickly….I also likewise responded to your last post to me, and other than briefly commenting that I was disappointed to have missed your thoughts on my musings—both serious and facetious—regarding Nathan’s possible bio-daddy, I cannot imagine why it was summarily dismissed. I made no un-pc remarks, but I did posit what I felt was an interesting and intriguing theory about Valentin….I won’t go into as much detail as before, yet let’s just say I supposed that this Valentin we are currently seeing in Port Charles is not THE Valentin, but perhaps an imposter, maybe even one put up to this masquerade by the genuine article himself???? That would explain a few of the lapses in logic that we have noticed during our in-depth discussions of how certain things just aren’t adding up in terms of timelines, ages, etc. Since the character we know as the latest addition to the Cassadine clan has been identified as a former WSB cohort of Anna’s who once operated under another name, what’s to say that he is not a man of many identities???? Just some food for thought there, mia amica!!!!….(By the way, I leave this site for a few days and all h#!! breaks loose in the interim!!!!!….GET WELL SOON!)

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    Shay replied

    Hey, CeeCeeGirl! Just a quick thought to your RCC comments regarding “Father Griffin”….if the present-day pandering papal politician has his way, this may be another matter long-steeped in rich tradition that he will attempt to overturn….and yes, you may surmise I am not a happy camper in the current state of the faith. Sometimes I think I would like to time travel back to “The Church” during the more respectful era of ladies’ hats and the Latin Mass that my mother has so vividly described to me with both reverence and fondness.

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    Celia replied

    Well, Shay, in Italy, especially, the Vatican, many a Mass is still in Latin. High Mass is always held in Latin.
    However, I think that if priedts were allowed to marry, there would not be so much of “breaking canon law”.
    I can’t even imagine wearing a kerchief on my head. My mother always said that she only appreciated covering her head on bad-hair Sundays. LOL.
    But, I’ve given up on TPTB making their own rules where one’s faith is concerned. Griffin may be a priest, but, in name only.

  5. Lola says:

    …zzzzz, oh sorry I was just thinking about the latest Sonny/Carly drama leading to…wait for it….a vow renewal. Good grief!! How much are writers paid? At that salary level can they not come up with something different that what has been done over and over and….

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    Michelle replied

    Like in today’s episode where Sam passes out after giving birth. It was just done on Days of Our Lives with Chloe.

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    Celia replied

    That’s right, Michelle. I didn’t even notice when Sam passed out. That’s how disinterested I was. I must say, though, thst she did a better job with that scrne than Jason. I did not feel the tension, nor the drams.
    Did Sam have her pants on when she gave birth? For some inexplicable reason, that’s all my mind was registering?…”take her pants off”…Did Jason cut the cord? Hmmmm.

    Celia replied

    Wow. I truly apologize for the typos. I should get into the habit of rereading what I type.
    Yes, you are so right, Michelle…forgot all about Brad.

  6. Steve says:

    To touch on the other storyline in the episode — the selling of the hospital. There are so many contrived plot points. The last minute addition of Liesl as the tie breaking vote? Even if the board ok’d her vote when she acted as Chief of Staff, wouldn’t Monica inherit that when she resumed the position? I love KG, but that was a real stretch. One other flawed point, how could a presumably dead woman (Olivia Jerome) rack up so much money herself that the richest family in town would struggle to POOL their resources to match her offer?

    As others have mentioned, the damsel-in-distress is a tired story for Sam. It’s sad how dull she and Jason have become. Jason is much more interesting in his scenes with Curtis these days, than with Sam

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    Michelle replied

    Now we can expect a big ordeal with Brad. He’s going to be furious Dr. Finn excluded him from the transaction.

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    Celia replied

    Hilarious, Michelle.
    “Tune” in subtitles when Jason speaks? Had a good laugh!!

    Alan replied

    “Now we can expect a big ordeal with Brad.”

    We should be so lucky. No, I think we’re going to be saddled with Jean and Shelly telling “an achingly beautiful story of love and redemption as Sonny and Carly fight their way back to one another to save the love between them.” (I’ve been reading soap sweeps previews for waaaaaay too long…)

    Celia replied

    Hey, Steve,
    I love your posts so much….you remind me of Alan and Shay.
    Your words just jump out so effortlessly. You do tell a story.

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    Steve replied

    Thanks Celia!

    One other observation I’ve been meaning to bring up. On the same day last week that GH showed a flashback of Tonja W and Kimberly McC, I saw a video of singer Olivia Newton-John (also from around 1990). I was amazed how close TW resembles ONJ. I gather that’s why they originally gave her the character name Olivia St. John. GH did something similar when Sebastien Roche, who resembles Daniel Craig (James Bond) the character name of James Craig. Of course, that only lasted a few months until he was revealed to be Jerry Jacks.

    dmr replied

    With the hospital being saved, does this mean that the daily dose of Hayden Barnes can be minimized? I am sick and tired of the actress and the character. She is forced down our throats in so many scenes and storylines. It’s nauseating.

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    Celia replied

    That’s exactly what I called Sam when I started watching GH, dmr….LOL.
    There’s no inflection to her voice, or flavor in her personality. So, I was surprised when she howled during labor. I expected her to blow out a few monotone syllables.

    Alan replied

    Hayden was interesting when Ron first introduced her but then Jean and Shelly declawed the character and forced her into the heroine role and any spark the character had went out the door.

    Shay replied

    @Steve….If memory serves, didn’t Jerry Jacks also use the alias surname of “Brosnan” at one point???? Seems to make your “Bondian link” theory even more credible!

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    Celia replied

    Would have never made the assimilation between TW and ONJ. Astute observation, Steve!

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    Addison replied

    Steve, you make some excellent points.
    Also, does anyone know why Olivia Jerome is do dead set on destroying General Hospital?
    Either the connection between the hospital and OJ went over my head or the writers did not establish the connection.

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    Celia replied

    Caterwauling women? Histrionics? WOW!! Speaking of misogyny. Ironic……….that’s a very sexist remark.
    I ‘caterwauled’ a few times in my life.
    Anything concerning the safety of one’s child is agonizingly painful . This is exactly how women deal with tragedy; through tears of despair. A woman tends to forget lady-like behavior when faced with a hopeless situation. The heart leads, not the brain.
    I thought Tracey’s acting was most appropriate and authentic. Kudos to her.
    Tonja was just as effective in manifesting her deranged state of mind. Also, her interest is not GH, but what’s beneth it ( whatever that means)…. a gold mine? Well, kudos to her, as well.

    Steve replied

    On Wednesday’s episode, Olivia mentioned it’s what lies beneath GH that she wants. She and Julian had to flee the motel before we got any information. Perhaps Olivia was privy to knowledge about Helena’s secret lab under GH, were Stavros was kept for many years. Going a step further (and believe me I hope this is not where it goes), that would be where Olivia took Anna’s “elevator fetus” and had it implanted in Griffin’s mother. That sounds more like a Carlivati plot than a Jelly, however.

    Addison replied

    If you think referring to women caterwauling is a sexist and misogynistic, Celia, you might want to avoid The Great Gatsby in which Fitzgerald mentions women caterwauling on more than one occasion. It’s a great vocab word and it’s one that amuses most people who happen to have a sense of humor. It’s not even remotely considered sexist or misogynistic.
    Nice try though—do you need help off the floor?

    Celia replied

    Addison, you were the one who left the thread because you could not abide being among those who voted for Trump. I have never insulted you in any way shape or form. But, when speaking of histrionics, it is definitely sexist. Perhaps you did not mean it as such, but the word connotes hysterical women, as it is rooted in the Greek language ( as its reference to the womb).
    You are under the misguided impression that I appreciate Trump as a man. I do not condone either what he said or did in his past. I had to make a choice. I was not into either.
    As I said, Bernie was my choice, but, he was summarily taken away.
    Actually, I do need help off the floor ( I did get the first part of your post in my inbox)…..I am stuck home with a broken leg.
    And, as contrary as it may appear, I do have a sense of humor. HaHa… see??

    Celia replied

    Pehaps I took it the wrong way….if so, I do apologize, Addison.
    But to me, histrionics ( Latin root), translates to hysteria ( Greek root).

    Celia replied

    PS.
    I fo respect you, Addison. As I said, perhaps you did not realize the ramifications of the word, but, I am not making this up, I promise.
    Also, I would like to expsnd on a very delicate dubject, before my words are misconstrued….frankly I am tired of the muck and jocular behavior of some.
    When I said I do not care about what the president did in the past, is true….but, I would be the first to kick him from here to Timbuktu, if that behavior of his supposed treatment of women were to be repeated. At the same time, I would love to be a fly on the wall of some of these sanctimonious people, who never do wrong. I am sure you have known a few in your lifetime, as well.

    Celia replied

    This will be my last podt on this matter. Think back, Addison….I was never sore about your opinion of Trump. That makes no sense. I would never put myself in the same category of what we see in the streets….the non-stop violence.
    You have every right to feel what you feel, to vote for whomever you choose, but, so do I and every other citizen.
    My issue has alwsys been about the backlash I, and others, received from you , going as far as distancing yourself from any site for which I happend to be. That was very insulting.
    So, please, dear Addison?, let us be clear about that. I could care less how you feel about Trump. He means nothing yo me, except that he is the Presidrnt, and as such, I respect the ‘robe’, as it were.
    Let us not revisit this subject, please.let us concentrate on our soaps. How about that Sonny!!!! LOL.

    Celia replied

    I had to Google Grant Putnam, Steve. WOW, what a psycho. Gee, GH has generated a lot of these crazies through the yesrs!! LOL.
    I did mention Olivia’s comment about her interest in “what’s under GH”. It actually made no sense to me because I am not familiar with this backstory. The infamous lab?
    Your theory is viable, as far as I’m concerned. Why not? I like it.

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    Addison replied

    PS. Some folks might be confused as to why Celia over-reacted to my saying that the sound of caterwauling women on soaps gets on my last nerve. She accused me of being misogynistic and sexist for making such a statement.
    Here’s the thing–I am a bit noise sensitive. When I am working out in the gym and Buff Biff starts roaring as he bench presses, I am irritated. Does this make me prejudice against over-reactive men? I think not.
    The reason Celia was grasping at straws while utilizing a very weak straw man’s argumen, is because I, along with about a billion other Americans, feel the POTUS is a bit misogynistic and sexist based on his past history. There are recordings of him boasting to Howard Stern and on the now infamous EXTRA tape in which he says he is able to assault women, engage in voyeuristic activity during the Miss Universe Pageant, and prey upon women, who do not welcome his advances because he is a celebrity. Moreover, there are transcripts from his first divorce which reveal that he may have been abusive towards his wife. Some might say this makes him a sexual predator and an abuser. At his very least, he views women at his own personal sexual props as he objectifies them.
    I have been cordial to the Trump base who post in here since their man won the presidency, and I have done my best to keep politics out of our discussions pertaining to soap opera storylines. But I feel I must defend myself against Celia’s irrational and unfair allegations. As she has reminded all of us time and time again, she is young, smart and educated. Therefore, she knows the meaning of the noun “misogynist” and the verb ” caterwaul” and she knows to equate the two in the same sphere of meaning is idiotic and quite a stretch.
    I have been trying to ignore the political scene while posting in here but felt compelled to bring these issues up after Celia attacked me for merely referring to various female soap opera characters as “caterwauling.”
    Funny how that humorous and innocuous comment incurs her wrath while the very fact that her president grabs unwilling women by their personal parts does not offend her.
    So, think about that.

    Margie replied

    Woohoo, Addison.

    Lil' Angel replied

    Go Addison! Right on!

    Rose replied

    Celia…I keep wanting to back off politics, but….So just curious. You would have voted for Bernie, or a Democrat. But it seems that with even some of your misgivings about Trump you must have really had a problem with Hillary. Now that you are seeing some of the Trump decisions as president such as education secretary, Goldman Sach advisor, disabling the EPA, splitting up immigrant families, travel /security costs already adding up to the taxpayer, conflicts of interest, etc…was the trade off what you expected when you wanted a “change?”

    Addison replied

    Celia, you went after me for saying that hearing women caterwauling on soaps was irritating to me by calling me misogynistic and sexist.
    Clearly, you were still sore with me for calling out our president for being misogynistic and sexist for his recorded past deeds and so this was your gotcha moment.
    You were unfair and wrong in so doing and you owe me an apology.

    Shay replied

    @Steve…Thank you for your clarification about “Original Recipe” Grant Putnam….I’m sorry it took so long to acknowledge your reply! Yes, I suppose your scenario of an “Alpine Assignation” between he and Liesl would be a plausible one…though I do have to wonder how much of a chick magnet he would have been at that point in his life…LOL. All I can recall is that whence we first “met” this evil loonytune, he had the most purposely-atrocious hairstyle I’d ever seen and the mere sight of him sent me into a fit of laughter each and every time he appeared onscreen….Brian Patrick Clarke, who portrayed both Grants, had absolutely gorgeous, thick blond hair, and as “Doctor Putnam,” he was always beautifully and meticulously coiffed, hence to create the obvious differentiation between the so-called “fake” and “real” individuals, the stylists devised this grotesquely slicked-back, plastered-down (and I DO mean “plastered!”) comical creation that looked as though it required copious amounts of industrial-strength mucilage to stay in place when the actor was playing the incarcerated Grant….Hey, nobody would look right in the head rocking that sort of “do!” So, even though he later adopted a similar style in order to pass himself off as “Grant Andrews,” that image of the “original recipe” in all of his “sawed-off weirdo” glory remains securely ensconced in my memory!!!! Talk about a flashback!!!

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  7. Timmm says:

    I like the actress who plays Nelle but I think the writers messed up telling this story UNLESS they have a twist which I doubt! Michael is an actress killer! Anyone connected with him SUCKS!

    Sam better not lose the baby but I dont see how someone could fall over a bridge and not miscarry?

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    Celia replied

    You’d think, right? She’s ready to pop, so the baby is completely formed….she could go into labor.
    But, the mysteries of life and nature are a wonder. The female body has the ability to protect the fetus during a big tumble. True fact.
    So, the writers are not exaggerating here. I would hate for Sam to lose the baby…fiction or not.
    That is one thing that turns me right off.
    I thought her acting was great in this scene; if I could only make out what she’s saying, in her forever sotto-voce utterings. Jason is no better. I did not catch one word he said during his conversation with Alexis, whose enunciation is spectacular. I must be going deaf.

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    rebecca1 replied

    Okay, CeeCee. Here we can agree. I had to rewind three times to catch a few of Jason’s lines. Gave up…

    Michelle replied

    Jason is the reason I now turn on subtitles during GH.

    Timmm replied

    There is NOTHING coming out of Sam or Jason’s mouth that is worth hearing anyway!

    dmr replied

    I call her Monotone Sam. So boring. Although, in these scenes, she actually did some acting. Gotta hand it to her. Jason is beyond boring. I like him better as Jake and with Elizabeth.

    Celia replied

    @rebecca1.
    Thank you, rebecca.

    Rose replied

    Celia… I’m dipping my foot into it again (I know uninvited) as a followup to comments between you and Addison. :) just thought I would try again from a view from the other side. I almost feel like the families who can’t have dinner together anymore based on who they voted for. I don’t think most of have ever felt the same on the results of an election on this scale as this last one…lots of funk out there.

    And I wish it were as simple as just getting back to discussing soaps because all of the commentors add to MF with their thoughts, speculations and ideas. But many times, some of the comments they have accepted, or not accepted, about stories/characters can run counter to what they have accepted from Trump during the campaign and since. Doesn’t matter that soaps aren’t real life…they still reflect values. And these values and opinions can be different depending on our history, upbringing, etc. But that’s also what can make comments interesting.

    And for what I assume most of us see as arguably the most important position in the US representing all American’s, as well as our credibility in the rest of the world, it has been nothing but Wow-chaotic, and confusing for at least 50%+. Even Khan felt he should cancel a speech in Toronto (a friendly country) because he wasn’t sure of his U.S. travel status, and he’s an American citizen.

    And while I know there are on-going demonstrations, I’m not seeing the same “non-stop violence” in the streets you mentioned. Seems there can always be rowdies on either side, at times disavowed by their organizers…passions are high. But thank goodness we live in a country where free speech, opinions, tweets, rallies, can happen without law enforcement stepping in.

    Hoping for the best. There’s a lot at stake.

    Celia replied

    The Tin Man, Timmmbo? Your one-liners always do the trick!!!! Belly Laugh.

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    Celia replied

    @Rose.
    Oops.
    I received your post in my inbox before it made it on the board…so, my above reply is for you. LOL.

    dmr replied

    TIMMM, Women connected to Michael either die by losing their lives (Abby, Sabrina) or by shear boredom (Starr, Kiki, Nelle, etc.)..

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    rebecca1 replied

    I LIKE Michael. He’s the hero (the emotional hero). They just need to get him past puberty so he can actually have some sex! They’ve made him so asexual it’s pathetic! Every male on that show has been involved. Michael hasn’t been near a bed (or a couch, table, floor) LOL…ANY place he can “express himself”) since his ex, Abby.

    SEX the man up!!!!

  8. Suz tm says:

    So disappointed. Months of nothing. We really have no idea who Nelle is or why she has it out for Carly and at this point, I could care less. Sam at the bottom of s bridge? In the winter? Everything is so dragged out and so much focus on the same characters? Then my favorite, Laura continues her story off screen being driven around unconscious? Really? Now they plan to bring more characters from AMC and OLTL?

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    Michelle replied

    Yeah, the “driving Laura around” thing is bad. Weak writing and some missed opportunities for sure. It’s kind of an insult to the character of Felicia too. A good P.I. would have kept digging until she discovered Nelle’s true identity instead of settling for gossip and returning home so quickly. I’m happy for the character of Bobbie having been given more air time during all of this though.

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    Steve replied

    Jackie Zeaman’s prominent role and the return of feisty Bobbie have been the true highlights of this storyline.

    Celia replied

    Speaking of winter, LOL…did you notice the water trickling down? Isn’t PC supposedly way up north-west? ….close to Rochester/Niagara Falls? The water would be solid ice.

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    Shay replied

    Excellent point, CeeCee! I’ve seen those “frozen falls” on both sides during the winter and they are spectacular! Actually, even more magnificent than their usual splendor….

    Margie replied

    In real life the Midwest and nortthest has been very warm this winter, so it was accurate…not that it has to be.

    Celia replied

    @Margie.
    When you’re right, you’re right. Touche’, Margie. It has been unusually warm, except for today.

    JMER replied

    Lord, Buddha, Feminine Goddess, Soap Guardians, et al, YES, THIS! These are the exact reasons they’ll lose generations of GH viewers to become FV’s boring multi-soap brew. And I’d bet my life savings that FV and the execs are behind most of these problems rather than the writers who do their bidding. And so efficiently succint too.

    “Everything is so dragged out and so much focus on the same characters? Then my favorite, Laura continues her story off screen being driven around unconscious? Really? Now they plan to bring more characters from AMC and OLTL?”

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    rebecca1 replied

    Dragging stories out, to some extent, is basic soap opera formula. It was only with the advent of budget cuts and soaps being cancelled that they “sped” up stories so viewers wouldn’t be left hanging in the event of cancellation.

    While I, too, sometimes get impatient to know where it all leads…the stories need to unfold, to simmer before they boil, ahem…otherwise we’d need new stories each week or every two, the writers would have to churn out that much more new material and we wouldn’t be as invested as we are…tuning in…to find out where it all leads. And, yes, some viewers turn out and off, but many hang in there because that’s what keeps us coming back.

    As to the comparison with Laura “being driven around off-camera” well, yes, she wasn’t the story. We knew they just wanted her to miss the vote…there was no indication she’d be in any permanent harm and Olivia has no grudge against her. So, it made sense to focus with the ongoing stories where we’re (supposedly) more involved and where the story has conflict and resolution. Works for me.

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    Celia replied

    True, soaps do drag out. It’s a staple. But, some of them do go on forever.
    Nonetheless, what really gets to me the most is when a story bears no fruit. I can sort of withstand the longevity of a storyline if there’s a worthwhile ending.

    rebecca1 replied

    Agree, CeeCee.

  9. JK says:

    PLEASE LET ALL THESE CURRENT STORIES BE OVER REAL S O O N!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. Aria says:

    Olivia Jerome has been a weak villain, very dissatisfied, I mean I’ve always thought of Julian as a weasel, yet for him to be afraid of Olivia makes no sense, how did she become in charge of the mob? Why is she wanting to buy gh? Are hospitals that cheap to buy? Surely she’s not that loaded with money, there’s just no way, again why is Sam the center of this storyline? I’m not surprise she’s the victim in it, she always gotta get rescue by jason.

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    Steve replied

    Your point about Sam being the center of this story is spot on. There’s more to this story. SPOILER ALERT: Some have speculated that Julian dies saving Sam. That would kind of make sense of the focus on Sam.

    Sadly, it appears we are going to get shortchanged when it comes to scenes with Olivia J and other characters. Anna should play a key role, as well as Robin and Lucy (who Olivia blamed for her father’s death.) I would love to be proved wrong on this.

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    dmr replied

    Monotone Sam always seems to be the center of the damsel in distress storylines. It’s tiresome.

    JMER replied

    Julian should be afraid of Olivia because she’s unhinged, double mad, and he claims that he’s no longer a psychopath. Plus if Olivia has the mob behind her, which is NOT a far stretch if you know GH history at all, and Julian is mostly out of it at this point (??), that makes sense, so I’m OK with that part of it anyway.

    But I’m guessing we have almost no scenes with Anna/Griff/Robin (some are spoiled to be coming soon) because Olivia will come back for another arc with them otherwise this makes no sense. Then again, RC did the same exact thing with Julian giving him massive airtime with Sonny instead of his nemeses, Duke and Anna. We barely saw them onscreen together. Just the way Anna was sidelined with PV so she can’t truly confront Olivia seems like a strategy to either delay that scene ’til later in the year or skip it altogether on purpose rather than being a way to do a good medical story. I wish I was not so skeptical, but I’ve been watching on and off since 2012 so know how this can go. We have NO guardians of our show anymore; B&B has Brad, Days has Corday, and Y&R seems to have several people, but it has totally been corporatized, sadly enough.

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  11. Alan says:

    Let’s be real — if Sonny shooting her in the head when she was giving birth and her children being in danger over and over again as a result of his “career” wasn’t a deal breaker for Carly then Saint Sonny doing the nasty with Nelle ain’t gonna be nothing more than a speed bump for those two.

    How ridiculous is it that Alexis didn’t even blink at the news her sister-in-law who was presumably murdered by Julian was alive and well? When people coming back from the dead has that little impact you know it’s time to quit going to that storytelling well.

    As for Sam — oy. Why would a woman nine months pregnant think it was a good idea to try and climb up that bridge instead of walking toward a road? I’m just surprised she didn’t spend an episode for two “processing” what had happened to her.

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    JasonLovesGH replied

    Hilarious! I agree on all your points. :)

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    Steve replied

    Yes, the “back from the dead” plot is probably the most overused story. I can probably name at least 30 GH characters who were dead at one time.

    If this happened in real life, would the Social Security office have a method for declaring someone “undead”?

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    rebecca1 replied

    Alexis didn’t have time to blink at the news of Olivia Jerome being alive…she was concerned about Sam. The connection occurred instantly that Sam was with Olivia…and both she and Jason went into overdrive trying to find her.

    As for Sam’s attempted uphill climb…it did seem beyond risky and absurd but I’m assuming there was no road for her to walk…just some ditch she fell in to which is why Jason had to climb back up with her to get them out….

    Sonny & Carly. Annoying personified. (Though I am curious about Nell’s deal.)

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    dmr replied

    I’m laughing over your Carly and Sonny relationship synopsis-so true.

    I think it’s funny that everyone is shocked to learn that yet, again, someone is back from the dead! This time, walking around with the same face as they had almost 30 years ago, too-in open public!

    For someone that is supposed to be as street smart as Sam, why on earth would she try to escape by walking in front of her captor? She gave Olivia a head start practically, by not keeping all eyes on her while on the bridge. She got out of the car and walked ahead of her. Her street smart skills are about as lack luster as her P.I. skills.

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  12. rebecca1 says:

    I’m stickin’ to my story, literally and figuratively. Soaps aren’t public broadcasting or “literature.” They are what they are. I think GH is doing great. Curious to see where a few of the current stories go. Kudos to the writers for day in/day out storytelling.

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    Michelle replied

    I agree with you Rebecca. Even though I think some of stories may be weak sometimes, I’m still very grateful for the writing regime change in 2015. I definitely like the show better now than I did 2 years ago.

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    rebecca1 replied

    There are lots of us who enjoy the show, Michelle. LOL..they’re (excluding you and I and a few others) just not as vocal about it. And, besides, it’s more fun for some to pick things apart. LOL. I, too, have my critiques. But the pros far outweigh the cons…

    Abruzzfan replied

    I am also enjoying the show, Rebecca. I especially enjoyed the “saving the hospital” storyline with Finn saving the day. I always enjoy seeing the adventure stories with Sam and Jason front and center. I also enjoyed seeing Robyn and Anna together. I like seeing Valentin and Nina interact, as well. I am waiting for Nelle to get her comeupance (sp?)! Cheers!

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    rebecca1 replied

    One more “p” in the word…you were sooooo close! :)

    I agree, Abruzzfan. Love seeing Robin back…and the scenes between her and Anna are very realistic/touching. Valentin and Nina was a smart pairing considering Nina’s emotional state and longing for love/relationship/child. Two broken people, just as she and Franco were…though I think Nina’s come a very long way. Unlike a lot on this board, I like her. But I find his interest and feelings for Anna intriguing; it’s a good story.

    Nell’s confession better be good! :) I thought for so long she was either Carly’s sister or daughter…some type of blood relation since she was a perfect match for Jocelyn…but she is either NOT the kidney doner and lied about that too and therefore is free to be with Michael (as she won’t be related to him)…or she held off being romantic because she is related and just wanted a brother/sister bond. I like not knowing!

    Cheers back at ya!

    rebecca1 replied

    Ugh! I was sooooooo close, too! Donor; not doner!

    Rose replied

    Abruzzfan…I also liked seeing Finn step up to save GH. But now I’m looking forward to Hayden and Tracey ganging up on him to get him off his drug. They will make a formidable, and a little humorous, team working together to make his life h*ll until he gets clean.

    And I must says this is the first time for me that I like Kimberly back at GH. Love the scenes and natural interaction between her and Finola/Anna. Add Jason and Griffin.

    And Wow…The Nelle/Carly/Sonny/Michael confrontation scene was a tour de force (hope I said this right) of great acting. I’ve always been a bit of a hold out on Nelle, and wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. This Benson guy sounds like a real jerk and manipulator (not to excuse Carly, particularly her early days in Port Charles), and I hope eventually there may be a story for her and Michael. Not so easy to mend fences with the likes of Carly and Sonny though. Or forgiveness for Sonny.

    It will be interesting to see Nina and Valentin move through their honeymoon phase. Just don’t know if I see a real future for them. And he still has his bad baggage to answer for.

    I mostly like Sam and Jason. It’s just too bad that both actors have a very low key delivery which can make them seem dull. And Billy seems to have to clear his throat a lot.

    Abruzzfan replied

    Hi @Rose and @Rebecca – Not sure I am getting my reply to you? Anyways, I completely agree with you both.

    Rose – I also like to see Robyn/Anna/Jason/Griffen together, too. I love their chemistries.
    The Nelle confrontation was A-mazing! Laura/Sonny/Michael/Nelle – kudos!

    Rebecca – you were right it looks like Nelle is Carly’s half-sister.
    This is an interesting twist.

    As far as Jason & Sam – in real life some people speak with low and monotone voices – some people call that sexy? It doesn’t bother me. :) I love to see both Sam/Jason together on my screen anytime/anyday.

    TTY soon!

    Abruzzfan replied

    See response below

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  13. Newmanwins says:

    GH has been amazing these last two weeks.

    GH is firing on all cylinders lately…entertaining as hell.

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    rebecca1 replied

    Agree, Newmanwins. Welcome to the positive side! :)

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  14. k/kay says:

    How long are they going to continue to let Billy Miller sleep walk thru his scenes and continue to get paid? As for the storyline concerning Nell what is her storyline these writers don’t have any idea week to week what the story is? The birth scene yesterday well I was embarrassed for the show never knew you could give birth thru a pair of tight jeans. Sad!

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    Addison replied

    He does seem to wake up when in scenes with Curtis.
    I think Curtis it the emerging break out star. They need to write adventure stories which team up Curtis and Jason. They have more chemistry than Jason and Sam and Curtis and Jordan put together.
    I am not talking Brokeback Mountain, I am talking about a great bromance.
    We had this with Luke and Robert and the writers would be wise to exploit their great bromantic chemistry.

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    rebecca1 replied

    LOL, Harry. Brokeback Mountain…

    I also like Jason and Curtis together…moreso than Jason and Sonny! They’re tres amusing. However, I think they did a disservice to Curtis. Before he teamed up with Jason he was this extremely competent, very tough, sharp sleuth. Suddenly, he’s taken a backseat to Jason’s streets smarts…and is also more hesitant as in opening Olivia’s tomb and getting into the dumpster. He was portrayed “tougher” before he and Jason teamed up. Still, it’s to comedic effect and adds the levity that Su craves. ;) (Right, Su?)

  15. Lola says:

    Who has Laura?
    Where is Laura?
    Why is Laura missing?

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    Alan replied

    Why are you worried about Laura when Sonny and Carly could be breaking up for the ten millionth time? If they break up there won’t be a vow renewal ceremony! Priorities…!!!

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    Celia replied

    Why do people do this in the first place? I have been married for nine years and this vow renewal thingy never enters my mind. I don’t get it.
    I would think that a married couple renews its vows on a daily basis, just by saying, “I love you”.
    Sonny’s and Carly’s relationship is a joke. No matter how many times they remarry or renew their vows, caca always hits their proverbial fan.

    Steve replied

    Rudge is giving an unconscious Laura a sightseeing tour of Port Charles.

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    Shay replied

    I just hope it isn’t Stavros who has Laura….or worse yet, Fluke!

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    Suz tm replied

    God no, not Luke. She finally has a decent guy in Kevin.

    Shay replied

    @Lola….I think it’s Morgan Freeman….he’s “Driving Miss Laura…”

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  16. Rose says:

    I’m really enjoying my soaps right now.

    GH…Thought the “big reveal” between Carly and Sonny regarding Nelle was really well done. As was Jason and Sam bringing Scout into the world, and surviving until the ER got to them. Then there are the scenes between Nelle and Bobbie. It’s nice when they let good actors do their thing.

    Y&R…While I wasn’t around to see Catherine when she was alive, have been loving the flashbacks they have been using between her and Jess.

    B&B…Spectre is providing a nice change of pace and humor in the otherwise triangle, same-old, same-old formula. While I don’t think there is long term staying power for this story, it needed a bit of a shakeup.

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    rebecca1 replied

    There’s romance, Rose. Sally and Thomas…JJ and CoCo. But first they’ll probably have problems if Coco decides to go through with spying. I just want the truth to come out that Bill sabotaged the review! (I love Sally’s funky fashion sense!) I also love how picturesque B&B is. Really beautiful visually.

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    Abruzzfan replied

    Hi Rose – see my response to your below.

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  17. boes says:

    I have to give GH mad props. You think this show can’t get worse but against all odds, it manages to do just that.

    With any luck baby “Scout” will eat her way out of whatshername’s belly.

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    Alan replied

    “Scout.”

    Do people ever stop to think their kids are going to be stuck with these names for life?

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    Steve replied

    Edward will roll over in his grave if the latest Quartermaine heir is named “Scout Morgan”. If he thought “Brook Lynn” was a bit off, Scout is really out there.

  18. Alan says:

    Carly: How could you do it, Sonny? How could you sleep with the best personal assistant I’ve ever had?
    Sonny: WE WERE ON A BREAK…!

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    Kevin O. replied

    LOL!

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