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101 April 27th, 2014 GENERAL HOSPITAL: Sonny and Ava Have “Crypt Sex”!

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At the end of last week’s episodes of General Hospital, the ABC soap opera kicked into high gear as May Sweeps is upon us! And talk about dancing on someone’s grave, err, crypt!

The set up had Sonny Corinthos (Maurice Benard) who inappropriately attended AJ’s funeral at the request of son Michael (Chad Duell), still overcome with guilt for shooting Michael’s bio-father and his cover-up.  After Sonny tells Michael he is not going to go back inside to the Quartermaines post-funeral, because it is just not right to do to Monica (that’s for sure!),  Sonny ventures into the Quartermaine crypts/mausoleum where all of the dead Q’s are housed.

Ava (Maura West)), who had ran off after mistaking Morgan comforting daughter Kiki (Kristen Alderson) at the Q’s as something more, also lands inside the Quartermaine mausoleum, and sees Sonny is there too! That sets the stage for some very dark and heavy emotional purging of by these two about their misdeeds and their troubled lives!

And if you want to see two actors at their finest, look no further than the amazing work of Daytime Emmy winners, Maurice Benard and Maura West in these scenes.  Viewers knew it was a long time coming that somehow Sonny and Ava would end up having sex, but when and what would precipitate it was the question!  And in their self loathing, and trying to escape the evil deeds they have done to others, Sonny and Ava begin to have sex in the crypt!

After their moment of escape from their messed-up lives, and trying to reinforce to each other that this act will never happen again by stating Ava loves Morgan (Bryan Craig) and Sonny loves Olivia (Lisa LoCicero), who should stumble upon them in the crypt but Morgan who figures out what just went on!   His father had sex with his “girlfriend”!  Morgan heads out to tell Olivia! Later, Sonny shows up at the Metro Court right before Morgan is going to spill the beans!  We fade to black and now will have to wait till tomorrow to see what happens!

So, what did you think of Sonny and Ava’s crypt sex? What did you think of the performances of Maurice Benard and Maura West? Let us know!

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  1. jimh(leave it to beaver) says:

    Sonny and Ava’s crypt sex was disgusting…i was hoping A.J.’s ghost wouldve appeared and puked Lila’s Pickled Relish all over daytimes nasty pigs!!!

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    Timmm replied

    It was tasteless. GH should be ashamed of themselves. Sonny killed this man, lied to his one son and then deceived his other son by sleeping with Ava THEN cheating on Olivia who happens to be Dante’s mother. Sonny has been watching Victor Newman over at Y&R. Where does this character find redemption? Is Sonny leaving?

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    I believe Sonny is on the verge of a nervous breakdown as his crime filled past is about to catch up with him…i hope!!!

    Elite Advisors replied

    I agree regarding Sonny…as I have also heard Maurice B is possibly taking a 6 months Leave of Absence? Anyone else hear that…the ONLY good thing about Sonny off the canvas is that I would not have to watch Olivia!

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    If this is true…it means Sonny will be caught for killing A.J….i still believe Sonny will be sent to a mental hospital instead of prison!!!

  2. Mema says:

    These two fine actors were brilliant. The act was disgusting, the acting…superb!!

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    Melissa replied

    I don’t think MB was anything special, and Sonny disgusts me. To do this to your own son is the lowest of the low. And I’m beyond pissed that my favorite character Ava was made to succumb to the supposed “charms” of this vile, disgusting pig of a character, yet again a kickass female has to be paired with this soul-sucking pond scum. It’s the worst possible thing that could happen to her as a character. She’s now forever ruined. There is no coming back from crypt sex with your boyfriend’s father. Ava didn’t need to feel guilty over her crimes, I liked it better when she was telling to him to suck it up and get over it.

    That being said, Maura West was incredibly brilliant, and her outstanding and gutsy performance of Ava makes me unable to quit watching. She deserves all the Emmy’s.

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    FAS replied

    Agreed.

  3. Cathy Borruso says:

    You knew that was coming both amazing actors♥★♥

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    KansasGuest replied

    It was so naughty it was gooooood! The fact that both characters had no compunction about indulging their basest desires in a mausoleum on the very day AJ was buried there just emphasized how self-centered both of them are. LOVED IT!

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  4. Mark says:

    Ava and sonny are pigs but how great is bryan craig? He is
    So talented I bet he wins an emmy

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    Timmm replied

    Bryan did very well but he is being recasted.

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    Mark replied

    No he isn’t get your stories straight

    FAS replied

    Is he really being recast?

    Joe replied

    WHAT!!! If so thats the final straw!

    KansasGuest replied

    After the crypt sex, Morgan’s discovery surprised me the most. They didn’t draw it out, or have him suspect something for months. They just cut right to the chase, and had Morgan be the one to see both ultra-selfish characters for what they are. Guess it takes one to know one! Great work by Craig, who from day one has been holding his own against some of daytime’s best actors.

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    FAS replied

    @kansasguest. I’m not sure I follow you. Draw what out? Suspect what for months? …that Ava and Sonny were partners-in-crime?…or that they were sexually involved? I think the crypt sex was their very first yucky, carnal encounter….the thought makes me cringe….with Sonny???? OMG…I’d rather die! Nonetheless, you are right in assuming that Morgan’s presence was specifically designed, by the writers, to find them in this compromising situation. Finally Morgan will be done with Ava…and perhaps his father.

    Patrick replied

    there were three noteworthy parts : Fridays Epi

    #1. Morgan is good to watch… he’s not confused about how much he Loves… and or cares about Ava… no matter what we think…. and he displayed that perfectly… It’s so much better watching Morgan… over Michael

    #2. Ava and Sonny have “cringeworthy” sex…. I don’t know about that… I think we all knew it was bound to happen…. I ‘ve liked the dance.. these two have partaken… up to this ep…. Sonny : needs a good woman… by his side… I don’t think it’s Olivia… but… it’s his son Morgans’… say what one will… about Ava… she’s the starlet of the hour….

    I don’t know how to press for MB’ Sonny… as it seems pretty mixed that it’s 50/50 leave and take what one can of Sonny… the answer is always in, he needs a good leading Lady – this dalliance with Ava… is bubbling over… and it’s kinda like… this is it… time for… both, Sonny and Luke… to make it happen.. and it’s sink or swim

    #3. I’ve posted this before… BUT… why not give, Olivia and Duke a chance… a shot at furthering a relationship for either or. they sit on the sidelines… “waiting” for Sonny and Anna… BOTH so busy…. commish’ing it or MOB’ing it… these two are cute together… back to Olivia and Duke… they have a natural ease with one another… I like them… it’s romantic and could get passion’ista

    it was one of the best GH eps in a long time… just proved… what Serial IS:

    NOW… if only GH would share with the audience… the one actor.. who could generate enough buzz and further story…. and that’s Carlos… has has this innate ability to do his thing… and intermix intermingle with the cast and stand out

    KUDOS to GH… it’s been a long long long time… for the production to put some thing(s) together

    Mark replied

    I agree with you about Olivia she is annoying sometimes but I think that is due to lack of story sitting on the sidelines doesn’t do her any good

    Timmm replied

    Mark, unless your his agent, your replying to my comment from your heart and not info that you have yourself. I dont work for ABC. I read it from a reputable online source. I think he is a good actor but what they have planned for him they would probably need someone a little older and more capable of acting next to Maurice Benard.

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    Mark replied

    He does hold up next to Maurice and there is nothing online or in the soaps mags about a recast with the latter filled with gossip and pictures about bryan and how popular he is and his relationship with Kelly/Britt so as I said get your stories straight

    Timmm replied

    You win Mark, I’m not in Bryan’s fan club. As I said, he is a good actor. I heard that the story being written for him and Sonny is going to be intense and the source online said thats why they heard Bryan was being recasted. I dont really care as much as I would hope that a recast would be in order for Nathan. [Toy soldier] I’m just saying. Havent heard anything.

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  5. Diane says:

    That scene was totally unnecessary and total disrespect for the deceased.

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    GH50 replied

    It was total disrespect for the history of GH and the great Quartermaine family. TIIC think that they scored a victory because people are talking about it. we’ll see. The old adage that all publicity is good publicity isn’t really true.

    You can’t sustain a daytime serial with constant stunts, gimmicks and shock value designed to get attention or get a mention on The Soup. TIIC fail to understand that The Soup makes fun of schlock. It’s not a compliment to be singled out there.

    The quality shows like Game of Thrones, House of Cards and Breaking Bad are a totally different genre and have far fewer episodes. The people who write and produce them are far more talented as well, that’s just a fact.Trying to be edgy and take elements from these shows is not a sustainable model for any daytime serial. These guys are off the rails. The ratings are trending down and for good reason.

    ABC really needs to wake up. If the ratings continued upward and they were in the 3.5 million viewer range, then you could say they’re doing something right. But they’ve lost all momentum, have lost hundreds of thousand of viewers from the Dec-Feb averages and have had three straight weeks of decline when Y&R and B&B are holding steady. That should tell you something.

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    Max replied

    Completely agree, it was disrespect for the show, AJ and all Quartermaines. I started watching GH again after AMC and OLTL were abandoned by the network. It seemed good for a while, but I feel it’s being dragged down by ABC’s philosophy of sex and violence equals ratings. What ever happened to love and good dramatic writing? They might as well move GH to ABC’s shallow evening lineup.

    KansasGuest replied

    Disagree. Daily ratings may go up & down like a roller coaster. But, the year-to-year comparison has ALL the soaps increasing their numbers over last year by the thousands. Now that measurement includes the 2013 Nurses’ Ball, when GH ratings really started heading upward.

    GH50 replied

    Sorry KansasGuest, but talking about year to year comparisons sounds knowledgeable but it is not the measurement. It’s not that simple. And anyway,GH ratings today compared to last year are up less than 100,000 which is not impressive.
    Ratings do go up day to day. They change week to week and month to month as well. The standard is not year to year. There are shorter trends that are indicative and important. GH was well over 3 million viewers on average and consistemtly Dec-Feb. Some of that was weather related, but if you take out the highs, they were still holding at 3-3.1 million. For the past two months they are averaging hundreds of thousand less viewers. They were able to get people interested and they lost them. The trend is down. Not day to day. The trend for the past two months.

    Also look at the raw numbers. Y&R and B&B may go up and down, but their bottom core audiences are about 4.5 million and 3.5 million respectively. Those are profitable shows that deliver a consistent core audience. That’s what advertisers are looking for. GH’s raw numbers are well below 3 million and there is no upward momentum.

    Timmm replied

    If I were the family of John Ingle I would immediately DEMMAND that GH stop using his picture. If Ron and Frank are going to pee all over the legacy of the Quartermaines and the legacy of GH, I would not be comfortable having my dad’s picture flashed up on the screen over at ELQ knowing that they are going to have two thugs screwing in my families Mausoleum!

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    Shay replied

    It would be ever so cool if that portrait of old “PickleEddie” just suddenly, and without explanation, crashed to the floor one of these days while in FLuke and Tracy’s presence……

  6. Mary SF says:

    Well considering they are both in crime families and both have murdered people I didn’t expect them to have any ethics about being unfaithful to their partners or care about honoring the dead and refrain from having sex in a crypt—- What I object to is I don’t buy their torture souls– if they had a conscience they wouldn’t go around killing people like they would an ant at a picnic that was annoying them. But the silver lining is I can’t wait for Sonny to find out he slept with the woman who killed Connie– if that doesn’t send him off the deep end once and for all I don’t know what will.

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    FAS replied

    Oh, yeah, Mary SF…what sweet irony.
    To add to what you so eloquently verbalized; these two have no souls to be tortured…and, if they did, they would bite the bullet and stop! Instead Ava keeps on threatening Carlos with Sabrina and Sonny turns the tables by telling Morgan that Olivia would be hurt if she knew the truth. This criminal is so smooth…but, aren’t they all?!

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  7. Charday says:

    Just another reason I cannot stand the Sonny character. How repulsive–having sex in the Quartermaine crypt over the dead body of AJ that Sonny murdered. I’m glad Morgan caught them and hope he tells everyone.

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    GRANTLOVER!! replied

    Totally Agree with you on all. Always hated sonny since day 1, Olivia deserves better so does Morgan. While were at it can’t stand Kiki either.

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    k/kay replied

    @Grantlover don’t have too much concern for Olivia this is the woman who laid down with the man who shot their son at point blank range and cousin Connie’s body was not cold yet! Not one couple to root for on this show and in one episode last week concerning Luke RC got his wish and ruined the legacy of Luke & Laura.

    Chenise replied

    The role of Sonny as the “ethical” family man who’d do anything for his kids, but yet doesn’t think killing people for a living says something about one’s character, has gotten way too tiring. He betrayed Michael by killing AJ. He’s now slept with his other son’s girffriend. Would love to see this character go on sabbatical for a few years via a locked cell.

    And the scene of Ava expressing how torn she is every day about things she’s done. Great acting for a few seconds there, but doesn’t fit with her role. Her conscious is sorely lacking. Julian at least shows some heart when it comes to Sam and Alexis and his grandson. I hope he ends up breaking away from the mob and that the writers let him find some happiness with them. Unfortunately, writers don’t like to see happiness sustained for any length of time.

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    Charday replied

    k/kay, you’re so right. I thought it was odd to bring up the Luke/Laura rape/seduction mess.

  8. Sarah says:

    Ive been waiting for this hookup but definitely didnt expect it to happen in the Q’s crypt!!! Wonderful performances by Maurice, Maura n Bryan!!! Cant wait to see what happens next!!!

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    Tsuds replied

    It was awesome.. and produced great! Great background music and active.. Bravo GH again.. Bravooooo

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    Ces replied

    I’m with you Sarah!! I’m hoping this will be the end of that boring drip Olivia! Then let the sh*t hit the fan when Sonny finds out Ava killed Connie.

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  9. Shay says:

    That tacky, torrid tomb tango will undoubtedly rank in soap opera history as the most depraved and disgusting act ever seen in daytime drama. (Or in other a words, a job truly well done to Ron C. and Company!) Let’s have a show of hands….how many out there needed to take a really long hot shower after witnessing that deplorable deviancy?

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    su0000 replied

    For the ones who ”got it” for what it really was, there was no disgust, it was awesome!!
    It was true to what it was and why it was and written true to character..
    In it’s own physiologic way it was beautiful..

    It goes way beyond the sex, it went where it would go..

    It was done with perfection..

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    Shay replied

    What you don’t “get” is that it is not “what” transpired that “disgusts” most of us, but WHERE it took place! Civilized people do not denigrate an individual’s final resting place in such a degenerate manner, and to praise that boorish behavior as if it were some profound, provocative piece of performance art totally misses that point! I personally don’t care what Ava and Sonny do to or with each other….they richly deserve to keep company given their multitude of mortal sins. But to imply that those who don’t share your enchantment with the “beauty” of their seedy seduction scene are somehow not enlightened enough to appreciate its sophisticated nuances is just downright insulting…and incorrect. What we do “get” is that under the circumstances that grossly inappropriate display of debauchery was an appalling affront to common decency and good taste.

    PatF replied

    Sex in a crypt could never be called “beautiful”. WT…?

    FAS replied

    What is physiologic? You mean physiologically? What does physiology have to do with it? Do you mean physically? If you do, it was depravity in the true sense of the word…but not surprising considering who the contortionists were. ….?..desecrating, not only sacred ground, but also the dead. Shay says it all…you go girl !!!’

  10. Shay says:

    Please tell me that Morgan and Olivia don’t end up having their own horizontal pity party when Sonny’s boy drops this bombshell revelation on her….you know Ms. Falconieri does have a history of cavorting with the “young’uns!”

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    FAS replied

    Now, Shay…that’s funny…you bad girl…lol

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    Shay replied

    Don’t know if you ever were treated to Olivia’s cruise on the “SS Cougar” with Johnny Zacchara, but if so, you know what I mean! (If not, ask “Nonna”….she can fill you in on all the deets!) Let’s just say she was cooking up a lot more than her famous lasagna with the much-younger “MobPrince!” LOL…After that she moved on to Heather’s first-born, Steven Larrrrrrrs….and though there was less of an age-difference,he always seemed to feed off of her “motherly-vibe.” I guess that was only natural given his issues with that nutjob of a maternal figure who birthed him!!!!!

  11. gloria says:

    I thought the sex in the crypt was disgusting, even Sonny would be more respectful of the dead . It was disrespectful for the previous characters of GH which we all loved. I have watching 50 years and wish they would cut out the Ava/Sonny storyline and Luke. What’s up with him, he was always Sonny’s friend. If he has a split personality then reveal so we know the real Luke is there somewhere.I feel sorry for Tracey.

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    Ms. Jackson replied

    Luke doesn’t have a split personality, that isn’t Luke. It someone with a mask. Like how Faison wore the Duke mask and tricked Anna. I think it’s Jerry wearing the Luke mask. That’s why they’ve been calling him Fluke (Fake Luke).

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  12. andrew hass says:

    I knew Morgan and Sonny were going to have sex eventually but i didn’t expect Morgan to find out so quickly.I’m wondering if the show’s plan is for Sonny to lose everything he cares about and watch him try to get it back.Plus i’m wondering if Ava is going to get pregnant and not know who the father.Plus Sonny i’m sure will eventually find out Ava killed Connie and want her dead but if Ava is pregnant that could stop Sonny from killing her.

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    Kevin replied

    EW! I think you meant Sonny & AVA

    LOL…

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    Ms. Jackson replied

    LOL. I’m sure he meant Sonny and Ava lol but I laughed when I read it too.

    FAS replied

    You guys…I’m laughing so hard, my eight-year-old little sister thinks I’ve lost it! This is Comedy Central.

    davlestev1 replied

    uhhh i HOPE Morgan and Sonny NEVER EVER HAVE SEX…what were you watching..the back of your EYELID FANTASY???

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Morgan and Sonny having sex…dont you mean Ava and Sonny…lol!!! As for Ava becoming preggars i thought that might happen too but do we really need another storyline involving a baby…lol!!! Ava can always threaten to expose Sonny for killing A.J. if he finds out about her killing Connie but it most likely wont happen that way…me too think a baby yet again is on the way!!!

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    Chenise replied

    Let’s just hope Ava is too old to get pregnant…

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    aria replied

    morgan and sonny? what, what were you watching, lol, major typo i’m guessing, or your totally watching somethng different then we are. regardless, it was gross, GH is turning into B&B and Y&R were father and son, share the same women, or brothers (morgan and michael with kiki) carly already slept with her mothers husband, and olivia didn’t even wait for poor kate to be dead over a year at least before hooking up with sonny who’s also been with alexis, who then married his brother Ric,oh god, i can go on an on, then there was liz with lucky and nick, liz with jason then a j, then carly with jason and then a j, sam hooked up with rick while he was married to alexis, then remember courtney with both jason and a j, damn, i prematurely insulted the b&b and y&r, damn, i going to hell. ok, well, here’s my other point then, so Sonny feels guilty about betraying Michael, but not Morgan, hmmmmm, so this is the mobster with the heart of gold, because doesn’t matter that he kills people, we al know he “loves” his children and would never hurt them, hahahahahaha, thats funny.

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    k/kay replied

    Hey come on folks it was a typo give the guy a break!!

  13. Brenda says:

    Nasty. Seemed like a FU to the Qs and the fans who love them. I watched Thur. and Fri. for the first time in weeks. Going back on hiatus.

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  14. su0000 says:

    I loved it!!
    It was soap sex at its’ best..
    Seems some do not ”get it”

    Both Sonny and Ava were written true to their character, it was an honest look at both Sonny and Ava..
    Both killers, both struggling with guilt and ‘fear..

    Their sex moment was as it would be..
    Empty, HOT, meaningless, pure sex, to make both feel better while rolling in their own disgust, , a bonding of two very lost souls.

    To ”get it” one would know their sex was not suppose to be normal,
    it was release, despise, a powerful need that blocked out all responsibility, respect, and not a thought of consequences.. It was pure sharing of fear and need to release..

    It was done brilliantly !!!
    an outstanding performance, from beginning to end including Sonny’s pain after when he sat in the background..

    BRAVO to all !! Well done ..

    I ”got it” …. :)

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    Rose replied

    It might have been all of those things, and some of us other than you got it. It’s just that the writers have so darkened GH that even loyal viewers might jump off the bandwagon. When you look at ABC right now, Scandal and Revenge are brutal. Unfortunately there seems to be an appetite for this…Criminal Minds, House Of Cards, Breaking Bad, and just the news generally. Now this type of cruelty has crept into GH, which was supposed to be a bit of escape from “real life.” Combine the crypt sex with the car accident, yet again, at probably the same curve in the road, and kids lives on the line again, even I think I’m done.

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    FAS replied

    Is this what an audience expects today? Really? The macabre and disturbing storylines have always been the staple in books, movies and TV. The difference is, it was done with taste. I am part of this generation, but I am neither a nerd nor a prude, however I do know where the line should be drawn. Writers of soaps, in my opinion , take too many liberties. But, what really bothers me more is that we, the viewers, are to swallow whatever we are fed….well, I don’t like brussel sprouts.

    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Nope…you dont get why some of us complain…we didnt have any problem with Ava and Sonny having sex…it was because it was in the crypt which is tacky and disgusting…your generation may not think so which is furthur proof of moral decay in our current society….so youre ok with it and i get it!!! GH is still an entertaining soap and ill agree with you about that but most of the time there is too much gloom and doom which turns a lot of people away…more love in the afternoon is sorely missing here!!!

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    Shay replied

    Here, here, jimh! You hit the nail on the head….the issue was not with these two corrupted consenting adults doing their “thing”…..it was where they chose to conduct the appalling personal business. This insanely inappropriate incident of behaving badly is but the latest in a long line of truly tasteless tidbits we’ve been treated to on GH, with Luke’s salacious stalking of Kiki, coke-snorting and drug-dealing being other prime examples of truly cringe-worthy degeneracy disguised as entertainment. What is so amusing about the sexual harassment of a young girl at the hands of a leering old letch or the spreading (with no compunction) of the surging scourge on society that narcotics have become? These ick factor plotlines simply illustrate how we have lost the culture war….the goal of “defining deviancy down” has been accomplished to such an extent that we who retain some notion of old-fashioned decency are now looked upon as the ones with the problem.

    FAS replied

    Jimh, Shay..trust me, not all youth accepts this kind of behavior….we can differentiate between right or wrong. Anyone can go astray, but personally? I love that ‘old fashioned decency’…within limits…..lol…methinks that the younger cast of GH acts more rationally than its more mature counterparts…they have become the adults.

    FAS replied

    Sonny having sex was sex at its best? Wow!

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Fas, i didnt mean to make it sound like all youth…some of my young relatives seen the episode and thought having them make out in a crypt was in poor taste!!!

    Shay replied

    FAS….There is no question that the meager mentalities miring GH in its moral morass do not emanate from the millennials….the messed-up minds that so proudly presented that “mausoleum mambo” madness clearly came from the over-40 set, making it all the more despicable! Quite frankly, I could never imagine the likes of Morgan, Michael, Kiki, TopCop, heck, even Molly or TJ (okay, maybe Rafe….he’s REALLY creepy steeped in all that emo angst…JK!…) participating in such appalling activities. Nope. Sadly, it’s the so-called “adults” (FLuke, Sonny, Ava, etc.) who are the ones savoring in such spectacularly sickening scenarios at the behest of their equally mature (?) and shameless showrunners. Personally, I have always adhered to the notion that the virtues of class and propriety possess neither an age requirement nor a limit-both are priceless and timeless commodities. So if I gave the impression that I blame the moral decay we are witnessing in entertainment/life in general on today’s youth, then I do apologize! Nothing could be further from the truth–it’s the place of elder generations to lead by example and that’s where the most egregious failings have occurred.Being the grateful beneficiary of a proper upbringing, I can attest that it’s the best inoculate against losing one’s bearings in the face of life’s more unsavory aspects…it served me quite well during my youth in the epic 80′s and narly 90′s, and I’ve absolutely no doubt that you have been equally blessed in that respect by your family from “Nonna” on down. This was never an case of assigning fault based upon birthdate, but one of a total lack of common sense and decency from those most definitely old enough to know better….they have no excuses for such lapses of bad taste and poor judgment.

    smoochie replied

    My goodness- You proud about “getting it” that you had to make another case for yourself to add to your earlier comment about “getting it” – trying to make other people feel less than. Really? I feel embarrassed for you.
    You’ve tried to make this flimsy, gauche, distasteful, poorly acted, awkwardly executed, disconnected ,no chemistry happening vehicle that might give MB a way out while he makes the one and only big screen film he’ll ever star or be in,( he and his wife producing) into some deep, psychological (which I think you made up a new word for it- dare I say “physiologic” archetypal journey, that no one but you and perhaps a few other like minded “critical thinkers” along with you “got”.
    If you want to delve more deeply, seems like the writers may be trying to create a classic (Shakespearean) tragedy with the character of Sonny being the protagonist, (I’m giving the writers more credit than they deserve) and if so, they’ve chosen a character that is no hero in anyone’s eyes, has more than one fatal flaw so it really wouldn’t work as a tragedy when he experiences his final downfall albeit it would make a good exit from the show.

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  15. Robert says:

    I feel bad for the character of Sonny, he is being written into a corner with this, the betrayal of Oliva’s love for him plus the murder of A.J. I can’t imagine there is a way to come back from the train wreck.

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  16. Dan says:

    Yes, it was disgusting. Of course it was. That’s the whole idea. It’s part of the ongoing unraveling of the Sonny character, and symbolizes how low he’s fallen, and what happens when a guilty conscience catches up to you.

    I thought Maurice Benard and Maura West were brilliant in the scenes leading up to the sex, portraying that both Sonny and Ava have hit rock bottom. And kind of like that night many years ago, when Sonny and Carly hooked up for the first time, desperate people with nothing to lose sometimes find their way into each other’s arms.

    I’ll be interested to see the fall out.

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    Ces replied

    I agree Dan!

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    su0000 replied

    Ava and Sonny would be an awesome dark couple..
    They would feed off of each others quilt and fear ..

    Never a dull moment to be had.. And the sex would be powerful..
    They would be a true out of the box soap couple..

    Ces replied

    totally su0000!!! Olivia is just a passing thing for Sonny because GH didn’t know what to do with her character. She should have left the show instead of Connie because she adds nothing & Maurice needs someone a lot deeper than Lisa’s boisterous acting style.

    FAS replied

    Sonny IS a passing thing…out of the box soap couple? Maybe Ava…Sonny? He will need a walking cane soon. He is a grandfather…. OMG…he is so gross !!!! Do you honestly think Ava is attracted to an old man? After tasting young blood? What you saw was in-the-moment -raw- sex ….nothing else…..but, because they are so twisted, they will probably do it again. It is a fallacy for the writers to expect us to think that such an aging man as Sonny , whose sexual prowess is waning , could possibly keep Saccubus’s sexually demanding body satisfied. …I really don’t care….just stay away from Nathan, Ava…lol.

    andrew hass replied

    Sonny and Ava having sex also reminded me of when Sonny and Carly first had sex all those years ago in certain ways.Plus it was not something Sonny and Ava planned to do and i think they both regretted it immediately afterwards.Plus i can’t wait to see Julian’s reaction when he finds out his sister has literally slept with the enemy now.So Ava and Sonny having sex could have repercussions across the canvas for months to come.

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  17. Scott (ATWT Fan) says:

    Maura West was beautiful in these scenes. She exudes sexuality, all while in the midst of an emotional rollercoaster. However, these scenes were tact and tasteless. Having sex in a crypt was beyond disrecpectful to the dead, fictional or not. I would’ve hoped that Ron had at least a shred of respect for those who are no longer giving in the Port Charles realm, but I guess that’d be asking him too much.

    However, still not loving Sonny after all of these years. I hope this is the show’s way of writing him out. Plus, there is zero chemistry with Ava, because MB just cannot connection.

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    Shay replied

    Absolutely, Scott! And to those who high-fived this sleazy symbolic desecration of AJ’s burial chamber, I ask how any decent person could condone doing likewise to the lovely and gracious Lila Quartermaine (who was goodness personified….) not to mention her other deceased family members. Not only did that egregious escapade show a total lack of respect for the entire legacy clan, but a special disregard for the still-grieving survivors, Michael and Monica.

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    k/kay replied

    I wish they could compare to Beverlee Mckinsey, my dear friend Victoria Wyndham they are not fit to kiss their boots!!!

    Shay replied

    @k/kay…The “grand dames” of yesteryear’s daytime dramas may have been wild, wicked witches on wheels, but they still maintained their sense of decorum because, first and foremost, they were LADIES!!! Their example offers much to be gleaned and emulated by today’s soap actresses…..

  18. Timmm says:

    Yeah, you cannot believe now that Sonny is torn for lying to Michael when he is having sex with an “Enemy” on Michael’s dad’s grave, basically! But, Sonny is a mobster and if they want to write him more that way than a family man or someone who donates money to GH, then do it. Make him an SOB on wheels! If Maurice is going to retire, send him out in a blaze of shame! [Dont kill him, though]

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  19. PatF says:

    Silly and contrived. So not necessary.

    But this seems to be in line with Cartoony’s writing for shock value.

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    4everDAYS replied

    All those Y&R ghost stories must have mistakenly led you here. Are you the crypt keeper?

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    PatF replied

    Oh ghostly God, no.

    Never.

    Just couldn’t believe another Cartoony moment I read about.

  20. Alan says:

    Here we go again…

    Shame on Ron Carlivati for doing what a writer does — being creative and taking chances — instead of writing cookie cutter plots centered around Saint Jason and his infinite awesomeness.

    I sometimes think GH fans won’t be happy until Jill Farren Phelps and Guza return to finish this show off once and for all.

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    mfarris70 replied

    Hear hear! I’m totally with you. See my comment below…

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    Dan replied

    Exactly Alan, well said!

    If Guza and Farren-Phelps were still at GH, well hell, they wouldn’t be cause GH would dead and buried by now, just like the other soaps that ABC killed. I’m certainly not a fan of every story that FV and RC have been telling, there are some hits and some misses, just like any TV show. But I would take them any day of the week over the previous regime. Not even a question in my mind.

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    andrew hass replied

    I like that Carlivati is GH”s head writer because he takes chances and takes the stories and characters in unexpected directions.Plus maybe Maurice Benard who plays Sonny likes what the show is having his character doing because he likes being challenged as an actor.

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  21. mfarris70 says:

    I don’t get why so many people want everyone to be nice, all the bad guys to go to jail and for everyone to live happily ever after. That’s not how life is and there would be no story to tell. People do bad things all the time.

    The mausoleum sex was beyond gross and inappropriate– that’s the point! Sonny is at the lowest point he’s ever been in his life. I thought Maurice Bernard and Maura West were dazzling in this crazy, can’t-stop-looking-even-though-I-shouldn’t scene.

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    FAS replied

    I agree. Kudos to Maura, not Maurice. I did not look because I always look away when Sonny is on the scene…cannot help myself…creepy. I complemented Ava’s acting (pre the gross sex) soon after. She was great. I understand there needs to be good and evil in every story…One cannot appreciate good without evil…I get that…I ddon’t think anyone is disputing that. However, those of us with morals , at any age, have a problem with this particular sex scene. My nonna actually left the room and said a million Hail Marys.lol. And, this from a woman who is so open-minded and cool, who still wears stilettos. I don’t know what to make of it, mfarris70. Why were we subjected to this..?….perhaps, as one of the posters said, it was to show how low those two characters have fallen…how sordid their mindset. I am sure the writers will soon make it clear for us.

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  22. dmr says:

    So much for Sonny always putting his children first and loving them so much, huh? His last redeeming quality (his love for his children) diminished. Let’s see what Carly says about this, as I am sick and tired of hearing her justify keeping Michael away from the Quartermaine’s and how Sonny was a better father figure than AJ, etc. I really wish the writers paid more attention to Sean Kanan’s return and made a real effort to redeem AJ and resurrect the Quartermaines!

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  23. anonymous says:

    When was courtney with jason? Before she was with nicholas and gave birth to spencer? Sonny should think about his other sons, you know the cop who will have to arrest him when they find out he shot aj and who will be mad at him for sleeping with ava jerome and hurting his mother!!! morgan who saw his father the father he’s defended to other people so many times sleeping with the woman he thinks of as his girlfriend. Why did the writers have micheal ask sonny to come to ajs’ funeral? He didn’t know it would upset his grandmother? AJs’ ghost wouldn’t want sonny at his funeral. Proof to me that something is wrong with sonnys’ medicine. Always knew something wrong with sonny. The idea of two people even if they’re fictional people being at the gravesite or crypt of someone elses’ family and they were enemies to that person too!!! what were the writers thinking?

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  24. Elite Advisors says:

    Not excited about those scenes…I didn’t see the build up… and I didn’t see the chemistry at all…. actually it seemed uncomfortable….Dark yes…wrong yes…. sexy NO! Sonny needs new meds….

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  25. Jeff says:

    It was great; both Maura West and Maurice Bernard gave powerhouse performances!!

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  26. k/kay says:

    I have watched soaps on and off my whole life never day to day because of work etc but I am in total shock what people find for entertainment give me the old days of love and romance. RC has some problems he is of the age shock value is his recipe and if you like that style go for it I myself do not care for it masks sex without love babies that are not wanted campy style stories etc. With that being said I do not have to watch so good luck to all of you who enjoy this story telling I do not! Douglas Marland, Agnes Nixon, Bill Bell etc they were story tellers the rest are smoke & mirrors.

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    Mary SF replied

    We are kindred spirits on this point — sadly so many think daytime dramas are supposed to be more like prime time dramas, but the two are completely different things. Daytime drama bread and butter was always romance, with a bit intrigue and real life tragedy thrown into the mix– and as these shows drifted away from their foundations in attempt to be current and trendy they cut off their nose to spite their face—

    Good storytelling does not need to be shocking to be compelling. Good story telling has always been about expressing universal themes of the heart that every one can relate to. Yes the shock creates buzz but in the long term, the stories that were told in the sixties, seventies are still stories that can be told today, stories about falling in love, not just hooking up; stories about making a relationship work,not just leaving on a whim; stories about working together against the obstacles; not just heartbreak for heartbreak sake— those themes never go out of style. I bet someone could take scripts from the soaps of yesterday, update some of the references in them and they would still work.

    Unfortunately we live in a culture of junk food not only for the body, but for the mind, and so I don’t think writers today have the patience to think out a well crafted story, why cook all day when you can go to McDonalds? —and soap writers go to the “McDonalds” of soap writing a lot these days and for those us who remember what a gourmet meal ( a good story) tastes like, a soggy burger and cold fries ( stunt writing) never feels as satisfying.

    So I feel your pain and share it— and some days I do wonder why I am watching this stuff when I could be reading a good book and give my imagination and heart a proper feeding.

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    jimh(leave it to beaver) replied

    Having watch soaps since 1964 i agree with you 100%. Those stories back then can still be done today and still be entertaining! Very well said Mary…this is the best comment on soaps ive read so far in these threads…nice job!!!

  27. Rose says:

    The more I think about it, what has Ron added to the GH? He did resurrect the Nurses Ball, and has been coasting on that goodwill for a year. He added some good actors . And there have been some fun moments…mainly Obrecht. But there are also the questionable story lines from Robin being here and there in a wink, Obrecht becoming head of the hospital, the whole Franco story, even though I have loved Roger since OLTL, and now the funeral and crypt sex. He has also killed off A.J., possibly the last chance for the Quartermaine-core family to right itself …and then spit on his funeral. I realize our favorite shows have to evolve to be relevant and interesting, but leave the “special effects” and lowering- down of the threshold of taste to elsewhere. And let’s try to get back to good story-telling.

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  28. mjm says:

    How quickly everyone forgets. Ava slept with her daughters husband on his wedding night. Ava would have no qualms sleeping with anyone, anytime. Sonny, we always knew that he would sleep with anyone.
    The crypt though, that was like peeing on someones grave. It was a ‘yes we killed you and would do it again,’.

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  29. smoochie says:

    I think the GH writers are trying to flesh out a new comedy-drama series called Sex in the Crypt (y?) starring the worst actors in the business. So when we have to “release” our anxiety and our deep, dare I say it “physiologic” angst , we tune in so we can become one with the people having the sex in the crypt -no thinking, just sheer unadulterated , cryptic-fornication- Perhaps in one episode Superman and Lois will be the starring characters and Supie wont be able to perform because he will be surrounded by you know Crypton . Most of the time we’ll be able to view people getting their Crypt on. And then they all get busted for it. We will also get blow by blow decryption from the those who are trying to rest in peace. oh the horror

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  30. smoochie says:

    Crypton was meant to be Cryptonite

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