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161 April 13th, 2018 General Hospital’s Roger Howarth Delivers Power Performance Of The Week!

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This week on General Hospital, Roger Howarth was front and center in scenes where viewers and Franco got to the bottom of his horrific childhood past.

After Franco took Jim Harvey(Greg Evigan) out of the trunk of his car and into his art studio, it was showdown time for a story that had been building for months.  Why did Franco push little Drew down the stairs? Harvey persists saying that Franco’s DNA makes him hurt people, but Franco says that is not it.  He was protecting Drew from Jim.  Then, Jim goes on to say that his mother, Betsy was weak and so she sent Drew away because of fear Franco would hurt him. But that is yet another web of lies spun by Harvey.

Franco flashes back to his past and the gifts that Harvey would bring him, and that he recalled he started bringing those for Drew, too.  Franco finally says that Jim molested him time and time again, and he was going to start doing the same thing to Drew.

With a gun pointed at him and nowhere to turn, Franco is able to get Jim to write down all the names of the other children he abused over the years.  Unfortunately, the statute of limitations has expired for Franco to have Harvey prosecuted for crimes agains him, but he promises now to kill Jim.  As Jim begs for his life, saying the other victims deserve to hear him admit what he did, and then brings up Liz, it distracts Franco for a millisecond and Jim and Franco fight for the gun which slides across the floor.  As Jim decides to silence Franco once and for all and chokes him, a shot is fired, and Harvey goes down.  It is Drew (Billy Miller)  to the rescue.

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In a heart-tugging moment between Billy Miller and Roger Howarth, the two “brothers” hold on to each other as it has all became clear what happened in their past, and that Franco did do good, by protecting Drew from the horrors of a child molester.  Later, after Franco is admitted to the hospital for observation overnight, he tells Liz (Rebecca Herbst) what happened, only the audience does not hear what he said.

When Franco meets with Kevin (Jon Lindstrom) at Kevin’s office in the hospital, he shares the details about Harvey, and admits that. “He came to my room night after night.”  Kevin soon comes to the realization that Jim sexually molested Franco.  Then. Franco says he knew it was wrong.  Franco is in tears as Kevin says, “He’s to blame. Not you. Never you,”  But now, Franco wonders if he’s a danger to Elizabeth’s young boys. Kevin does admit that it is true that some abusers go on to abuse, but most do not.  Kevin makes a confession to Franco that he also had a traumatic childhood past with his mother.

Finally, Kevin asks Franco if he has ever looked at Elizabeth’s boys inappropriately. Franco says he has not.  When talking about his past crimes, Kevin tells Franco that it was because of his brain tumor.  Eventually, Liz and Franco go home together, as Franco now tries to move forward with his life.

Whether you like, or don’t like, how the story of Franco has played out in what appears to be part of redemption storyline, one thing was clear, Roger Howarth delivered a masterful performance as only he could throughout this week’s episodes of GH.  That is why he is On-Air On-Soaps choice for the Power Performance of the Week!  In addition, you have to give props to Greg Evigan who brought Jim Harvey to life in such a perfect way, and of course, to Billy Miller for his subtle and touching performance as Franco’s “brother” with whom, if it wasn’t for Franco, would have also been abused.

So, what did you think of Roger Howarth’s performance as Franco faces the truth that he was molested as a child by Harvey? Share your thoughts via the comment section below.

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  1. Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco says:

    Performances were good, hope to move on from this-sooner the better. Young and Restless has been on fire and can’t wait for today’s cliffhanger Friday. Wish Gh would pick up the pace and focus on characters besides Peter August. Wish Dr. Bensch would hook up with Nelle-I think they are soulmates. Love Anna, hate this story.

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    Harry replied

    Phyllis, as far as I am concerned, Amelia deserves performance of the year. She was convincing as a formerly confident woman who suddenly finds herself in an abusive relationship.
    What they did right was that they paid fidelity to character development as well as to the dictations of reality. That’s why it resonated with viewers, that’s why it was so damn powerful. Also, a nod to Thad who was able to play the woman abuser with nuance and complexity. He was not drawn as some one dimensional, mustache twirling villain, but rather a man who let his failures morph him into someone else. I also loved Sharon getting the women to circle the wagons in an effort to give Victoria unconditional support. Now here’s a soap which not only respects its characters, it respects the female characters allowing them to have their own identities, their own journeys which is not predicated upon what is going on with the man in their lives. This is something which GH is failing at miserably.
    I am sorry for veering off topic but see no blog on this subject and honestly, I am not that thrilled with GH right now.
    So well, bravo to Roger. His redemption story line has been completed and it’s finally over.

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Hey Harry- I have so been wanting to discuss exact same-GH is failing for me right now-was exciting and fast-paced when Jason first returned-wasn’t that excited about his return but that crashing through the ceiling was great! Agree with everything you said about Y&R- love seeing Sharon getting and being well and finding her way. Love Thad-would have liked to see him one more time without clothes before they killed him-but great music, writing, direction, acting-even Victor is excellent in his hospital bed. Great soap!

    Harry replied

    I concur, Phyllis and PS. I don’t think JT is dead.

    Celia replied

    Funny you should say JT isn’t dead, Harry. I was thinking the same thing. Phyllis ( Gina) said the ‘body’ was already cold. Within minutes? It takes a while for the body to get cold and hours for rigor mortis to occur.
    Actually, as I stated on the other thread, I read that Reed kills his father.
    I bet that when the women go upstairs, the ‘Body’ will be gone.

    Harry replied

    Celia, I was thinking that JT has a heart condition which was caused by lightening striking him when he was a teenager. This heart condition could be the reason why the women felt no pulse.
    On another note, what annoys me so much about Phyllis is she acts like a know-it-all when she really is a know-nothing. Her making the other women feel that they cannot report JT’s “death” to the police was absurd. She said it would make them all be accessories to murder. Um, NO! Nikki whacked JT on the head with the fire poker to make him stop abusing her daughter. Sharon and Phyllis were witnesses to the event. Phyllis convinces them that the best route would be a cover up and a disposal of the body–now that does make them accessories after the fact. I hated how they didn’t call 911 but of course, if our soap characters all did what they are supposed to do we’d have no stories.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I had no idead Victor was having an affair-that is correct isn’t it? The beautiful woman who picked him up at the hospital today is his lover??? Loved how Nikki gave her the stank eye! But she is having an affair with the young stallion-Marco is it? No relation to Marco Dane, sadly. Wow. I really am impressed how this show really is just one thing after another and then something else-hard to turn away from as when I do I miss something important. I thought Victor just awesome with no words-really excellent-and now Neil back and looks like Hil has a bun in the oven-wow!!

    Celia replied

    Hi, Harry,
    Sorry for the delayed response. I always respond to whomever replies to me. However, some comments do not make it to my inbox, while they do appear here. So, sometimes I miss them.
    Yes, I agree. I thought Phyllis’ judgment was more than a little awry….must be her old deceitful mind starting to work overtime again. Remember those days? Phyllis the manipulator, albeit I loved Michelle. Gina? Not so much in this role. Plus, she’s supposed to be, at least, ten years or so years older than Billy….ahhh well.
    She has no clue how the law works. Her reasoning was that Nikki, Sharon, and herself had a bout with the law….that’s neither here nor there; not when there were four of them witnessing what happened…beside the fact that Victoria has spoken about JT’s abuse to the therapist. Most women don’t even do that….and going to the police is the last thing battered women do. Victoria did slap him, yes….but it was a natural reaction…..no excuse for him to go ballistic…he was physically stronger, and as such he had the upper hand…..forgive the play-on words. LOL
    To a normal, composed man, I would think it would have been of no consequence, considering it probably did no harm except to exacerbate JT’ brutal behavior. And, the control. Let’s not forget the control, or lack thereof. How dare SHE hit HIM?! It’s classic behavior, Harrry….depicted to perfection by the writers.
    I, also, agree about JT and your deduction about his heart problem….I hadn’t thought of it, but makes so much sense.
    It’s too bad, Harry, because I am still trying to figure out why Thad was brought back just to be reduced to such a pitiful, unscrupulous, raging bull.

    Celia replied

    @Phyllis.
    LOL…Nikki’s boy toy is, Arturo, Phyllis.
    No one knew Victor was having an affair…new development, I guess, yrt to know the purpose.
    Remember when Victor was in jail and was dallying with the prison doctor? How does he do it? The regular way?
    Wow!!!! He must have Viagra on speed dial.
    I find this neither credible nor palatable. And, I don’t understand the need to prop up Victor sexually. Beside the fact that even Viagra does not energize a body from head to toe….need to work at it.
    Doesn’t Victor have a heart problem? Did he not have a heart transplant? Colleen’s heart? Does he not need to take care? Sex is a workout!! Not so good for an old man with a transplanted heart.
    You go, Victor….more power to you…

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Harry and Celia-no FOP-fans of Phyllis??? Hmmm. Perhaps after Nikki did the deed-and I’m not talking about Arturo-and started telling everyone what to do-Sharon should have picked up the poker and whacked Phyllis-is that what you are desirous of?

    lin replied

    Love your comment about Dr. Bensch and Nelle. I think Jim Harvey would have been perfect as well.

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    dmr replied

    Nepotism is running full speed ahead at General Hospital. I can’t watch Peter August. Oh wait, he is on every day, which means, I can’t watch General Hospital. I don’t like the actor, character, storyline, or he is interacting with-so, no thank you.

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    He was not on today and it was a pretty good show. I don’t care for him either.

    Celia replied

    Ditto, dmr. Creeptown for me with this guy. He always has this perplexed look on his face. Does he wear a toupee? Between his hair and Julian’s…..I don’t know.
    I think I said this before….I’m waiting for Carly to cheat on Sonny with Petey. I wonder if Sonny would divorce her for the umpteenth time, and then take her back? LOL.

    Shay replied

    I hear you, dmr! After another viewing hiatus, I finally tuned in Friday/Monday to see Robert Scorpio and Tristan Rogers (and Finola Hughes’ Anna…) did not disappoint! None too thrilled to have him playing the gramps role in this outing, since the emphasis should be on adventure and the mystery of Anna’s secret son, but it was still a true thrill to behold that Aussie accent, twinkling eyes and devil-may-care attitude once again! Hope Scorpio sticks around for a long while!

    dmr replied

    Phyllis, I caught a few minutes of the show while on lunch. I will watch the show if the episode does not revolve around Peter. Although, I am also sick to death of this “Nelle” storyline.
    Celia, Peter does always look perplexed. I don’t think he wears a toupee. Not sure if you caught Laura and Wes on “The Kitchen?” As much as I can’t stand his character/acting, he appeared to be a nice guy. Laura, on the other hand, was a very rude guest, IMO. She wouldn’t try anything they offered her, and had a rude comment for every snack they suggested. She was not very hospitable-very awkward, and not sure why they even made an appearance.
    Shay, love Tristan-hate the storyline (it revolves around Peter, of course)!

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    If he manages to get Lulu killed off, then I can learn to love Peter August. The Nelle story is so odd to me. The actress is beautiful and very talented-I like her-I think- but the story and her actions- this show can be excellent at times- and I guess that is why I keep tuning in and hoping. I just saw a picture Bobbie tweeted about rehearsals for the Nurses Ball-I did not recognize half the faces in the pic- although I know they bring in extra dancers and so forth. I really don’t care about the ball this year-I want the other stories resolved and to move on-really, totally move on. I love Anna-watching this latest hunt for Heiny- is icky. I did not watch the show when Carly #2 was on -but I do love her and the character Kim-and love her with Julian. I forgive Julian for all past crimes and love his little bar and grill and could sit and stare at his pretty face all day. But I know they will break this up and reunite him with Alexis- and that is ok too. Not really into Ava and Griffin-really could do without him entirely and good Ava is boring Ava.

  2. ck says:

    It was seeing Roger at his best. He is a powerful actor, and did a flawless job. I hope to see more of him bring is incredible acting skills to task. I also look forward to see Franco develop a relationship with Drew and the two become ‘true’ brothers. There would be a lot to explore and give more depth to each of the characters.

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    Soaphound replied

    Yes, ck, that’s what I want. A true friendship with Drew rather than between Drew and Jason would be the ultimate irony. Since Jason and Sam are not capable of forgiveness, except for Sonny, this will be a real bone of contention. Thank heaven RH finally has some material he can run with. He and Billy are great together and have a real rhythm in their scenes.

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    brian replied

    Yes, agreed, and they can leave “Stone Cold” out in the cold, lol.

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    Harry replied

    Steve Burton’s return really boasted the sagging ratings.
    It’s okay to praise your favorites, but I have never understood the propensity to bash another actor while in the process. Burton is a strong strong actor who can convey emotions without chewing up all the scenery. You can love Howarth, Miller and Burton at the same time—one does not negate the other.

    rebecca1 replied

    Harry; no one mentioned Steve Burton here. They mentioned “Jason/Stone Cold.”

    And, why is it you have no such indignation when “someone” bashes the female character/actress I shall not name. So much worse than whatever it is you think you saw in these few posts.

    Timmm replied

    Steve is playing A ROLE!

    brian replied

    big thanks to rebecca1 and timmm

    i felt quite bashed by and very misunderstood by harry’s take on my post. it is 100% character driven, as it would be nice see franko and drew become friends since jason will never give forgiveness to franko, and hope that the abuse that franko took to protect drew creates a bond, that may even allow sam to at least offer understanding of what drove franko during his attack on her.

    my post was not about the actors in these roles at all. i do not know any of the actors personally, and to make such comments about any actors personal life’s, would be slanderous ! i guess thou, many people do do this, and we now life in a world sadly driven by social media. i always, respectfully keep my comments to story line, and would never attack an actor for a role they are playing.

    Harry replied

    Brian, I am sorry. I didn’t mean you but was thinking of the fans out there who are bashing Burton on social media out of misguided loyalty to Miller.
    I guess the placement of my comment looked like I was addressing you. I basically went off-topic which I tend to do too much.

    rebecca1 replied

    You’re welcome, Brian. Harry might have jumped the gun; if he sees this he’ll probably tell you so.

    I agree with all you’ve written. I, too, would love to see Franco and Drew bond. They’ve already started to. I hope the writers don’t go backward on this though I don’t know how or why they would. Their childhood history and subsequent discovery of it should create a lifetime friendship (and they are cousins, to boot!)

    Best… :)

    Harry replied

    Oh hell, is Michael Fairman TRYING to torture me? (just kidding, Fairman, I know you’re a busy, busy man and please know, I love ya).
    But my response and apology to Brian is still not showing up. Brian, I am so sorry. It really did look like I was attacking you for nothing. I hate to look like Alibi Ike, but the truth is I sometimes comment on this forum while walking my slightly hysterical lab using my I Phone. Even on a good day, I am a Luddite, but me trying to multi task on a cell phone is like an ant trying to move that rubber tree plant. Here’s what happened–as I was walking my dog looking at my phone’s alerts, I thought I was in on a conversation pertaining to how cruel soap fans can be to Burton and Miller on Twitter. The following conversation occurred on a prior Fairman blog about Billy Miller contributing to a charity for child abuse. That is what I thought I was responding to.
    Again, I am sorry. Now I am going to attempt to move that rubber tree plant.

    brian replied

    Thanks Harry. All is good, Let’s continue to enjoy our soap GH !

  3. Mary says:

    It was so realistic that in several moments I forgot it was a soap opera and had to snap back to reality. I think I cried through the entire show because I had more used tissues in my hand than I had clean ones in the box.

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  4. Sophie says:

    Due to GH’s horrible pacing it took forever to get to the meat of the story but the culmination has been truly engrossing TV. Roger’s performance was spellbinding & the best story GH has done in forever. Roger Howarth is one of the best in the business & he hit it out of the park. Becky Herbst & Jon Lindstrom have also been wonderful.
    As far as redemption goes, IMO Franco has been redeemed in my eyes for a very long time. He is filled with remorse for his crimes, he’s actively sought help & he’s turned his life around. Give me a character like that over GH’s Mob thugs who never change, never feel remorse & literally reek of sanctimony & hypocrisy.

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    Paula Page replied

    I completely agree.

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    Gwen replied

    You are absolutely right. Forget Drew and Jason. Drew and Franco should be like brothers. I wanted Drew with Sam but I think he can be happy without her.

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  5. Satan says:

    No… no he didn’t.

    Frodd redemption attempt #666. Failed like all the others. He still is a useless character who has no valid place on GH.

    If the writers wanted to tell the story of an adult coming to terms with the reality of being abused as a child, they could have just as easily written the story for Drew – especially since it’s previously been reported that Billy Miller has been involved in some advocacy for such issues anyway.

    And while Jim Harvey being a creepy pedo pervert isn’t exactly a shock, he’s also the same guy who wanted to rig a man made earth quake so he could pull off a Koch brothers inspired takeover of an entire neighborhood to turn it into a gas fracking wasteland??

    Come on, they couldn’t write TWO sleazebags?? Because now with PedoJim dead, how are they going to get to the bottom of his planet destroying crimes??

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    Harry replied

    Satan, I do agree. I think the story would have resonated more had Jim Harvey been a realistic pedophile. Pedophiles don’t generally do not cause earthquakes as the result of illegal fracking. Pedophiles, do not dress up as doctors so they can go in and kill off a patient in order to shut them up. Pedophiles do not kidnap mothers and children to use them as hostages.
    Pedophiles blend in with society, they have an air of feigned normalcy around them–that’s what makes them so dangerous.
    Turning Jim Harvey into an over-the-top unrealistic, cartoon-like villain diminishes this important and crucial real life issue.

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    Harry replied

    excuse the double negatives, I am in a negative mood I guess.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Don’t be a NegaNelle, Harry. Spring is in the air-or will be by May I hope. xoxx

    rebecca1 replied

    Disagree. Drew didn’t need redemption; Franco did. As much as you hate Franco, and that’s your choice, story-wise it made sense for this to be Franco’s story.

    It doesn’t matter whether Roger should have been Franco from the beginning; it doesn’t matter if it was wrong of them to cast this part again. They did. And the character has been purposely changed since Roger took over.

    “Franco” has shown over and over again since the tumor was removed that he is innately good. He’s done nothing criminal since then (unlike Sonny who DIDN’T have a tumor thus an excuse) and it’s Franco’s journey from criminal past, troubled past to salvation. (And I don’t mean that in a religious sense but in a self-sense; understanding WHY he did the things he did and learning to forgive himself so he can carry on a normal life.) We’ve only seen good in him since he returned: saving Carly from Heather, taking a bullet for her, loving and helping lil Jake, caring for Kiki, adoring Elizabeth, protecting Nina when in the relationship. And, now, we learn that as a child he was the “protector” too. Subjecting himself to abuse while saving his “brother” from the same fate. Great, soapy, poignant story. And as you guys know, I LOVE Franco!

    Drew didn’t need an abuse background. He’s already been kidnapped, his identity stolen, didn’t know he was, became “Jake,” became “Jason” loved and at this point in time, lost and is a man, too, in search of himself. There was nothing in his behavior to indicate any childhood abuse and no need for that story to have been his.

    As for Harvey, I don’t care if he was, in addition to being a pedophile, a criminal “land developer.” But, he DID pass as normal, Harry. Finding out he was shady doesn’t mean he couldn’t be a child molester. One doesn’t negate the other and obviously he’d gotten away with it all these years; even Ned thought he was on the up and up.

    Worked for me.

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    Abruzzfan replied

    Well said – Rebecca! I completely agree!

  6. chriss_inak says:

    It was a powerful set of scenes for sure. Roger is one of my favorite actors, and tho I could never understand why they brought him back as Franco (which story line with James Franco I despised) I began to enjoy the journey after he got hooked up with Nina. I hope we can move on now tho. Let Franco and Elizabeth move on to some other stories–Develop a relationship slowly with Drew (Franco needs friends). And give Roger an EMMY!!!!

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    rebecca1 replied

    Yes!

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  7. Mary SF says:

    It took forever to get to the point of the story, but once there I was blown away by the drama and the performances. Although I thought Jim abused the boys I was surprised they went with sexual abuse– most soaps steer clear of it and doing one that focused on male child sexual abuse was another leap forward— it was realistic and sensitively portrayed– and Roger has a good shot at an Emmy next year and so does Greg–that last scene of his was so powerful—- Every time I am about to give up on GH they pull a rabbit out of their hat and give me a story line that reminds me why I love soaps

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    rebecca1 replied

    Great post, Mary SF.

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  8. Jimh says:

    He was fine but i still dont care much for Franco…and on GH if its not Nina its Sonnyville…

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    Violet Lemm replied

    It would be truly sunny, if they found the dancing balloon woman another gig. There must be a used car dealer somewhere in P.C in need of someone of her caliber.

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  9. Timmm says:

    Thank you Michael Fairman. I was getting worried!

    Roger has made me forget how much I hate Franco and love Roger Howarth! The tumor was one excuse but the abuse from Jim tells a whole different story of why Franco was Franco before the Franco we are now supposed to love!

    Roger and Jon were great in their therapy sessions. I actually forgot I was watching a soap at times!

    I only wish they could have found a way to keep Greg Evigan. What an actor and what a change for him to play an evil bastard! He was so good!

    I just wish Drew wouldnt have shot Harvey and the three of them could have had their final scenes together, and THEN after Jim lunges after the two boys, Drew has to kill him.

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  10. Rodd says:

    This story is so uncomfortable but so relevant. Child sex abuse is getting a lot of attention (at least in my area) from the media and anything that will help people open up about it, educate themselves on how to help those involved or how to prevent this from ever happening to someone they know, then I say “Bravo!”

    GH, Roger, Greg, Rebecca, Billy, Jon and the lady who’s playing Betsy, are all doing a great job! I sit and have a tough time watching this, but cannot deny the brilliant performances. They touched on so many aspects of this horrible topic. Hope they continue the good work because there are so many other beats to play out.

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    Harry replied

    Ditzy (Betsy) got on my last nerve.
    I hope now that is all over Ditzy goes back to her tree house where she can munch on granola and smoke grass all day.

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    Patrick replied

    I was so bothered by that – it’s not like she didn’t “know” that her adult sons were out of the “clutches” of the evil incarnate Jim Harvey, at that time

    boffo. out of the gate. i’m attracted to Roger Howarth.. the actor.. his person i’m digging getting

    thanks

    .

    Timmm replied

    She seemed like a bad character out of a skit from SNL!

    Shay replied

    @Harry…..All because the showrunners wouldn’t spring for an appearance by the much missed Heather Webber who tells much better tall tales than Betsy ever could! Nothing ever got past GH’s all-knowing legacy nutjob, so you can bet Betsy’s sweet granola bars that Heather was long ago aware of Jim Harvey’s sick proclivities and probably made some money via his previous buisness schemes in return for her silence….that’s just the way she rolls!

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I hate her so. Was really hoping Franco was going to smother her with a pillow. We are way overdue for a sacrifice-and she will do-very nicely.
    I lived with a Betsy family one summer. The mom was divorced with 5 kids and extremely overweight and not prettiest gal. She started dating a scout master-I believe that was his job-he was a higher up in scouts- whatever-he also had some money to wine and dine her and she ate it up on a spoon. She loved dining out and the attention and when he suggested they purchase a house together, she went right ahead. Geuss him wanting the master bedroom for himself and her youngest son didn’t ring any bells. All these details I am describing she told me herself, slowly over time. She never really accepted any responsibility or blame-and I think what bothered her most after his arrest-which was for some other victim outside her family- she missed the dining out and attention. I don’t think he ever served any real time for his molestations-and come on-scout leader! Scary. This was probably 35 years ago- a lot easier then to avoid detection and prosecution and no sex-offender registries. I felt some sympathy for the mom- but all her kids were way messed up and she could not see that and chose not to see how she invited the monster in and set up a home with him-albeit in her own seperate bedroom? Hello? Yeah, I don’t like Betsy and want her to suffer.

  11. MB says:

    It’s “clear” that Roger gave a masterful performance? Clear? Really? I don’t think so and neither do plenty of other people. The guy couldn’t even muster a watery eye in Kevin’s office, let alone a tear. Not that you have to cry, but he sure looked like he was trying, lol!

    Not only is there this constant narrative of Howarth the great actor but the one of whether you like the story, or really the character, you have to give Roger props, it has nothing to do with him. Guess what, a lot of people don’t like Franco because of Roger’s performance.

    From the day he showed up with blonde hair, prancing around the Haunted Star and the Q mansion, his version of Franco has been a joke. His “style” of twitching, stuttering, blinking, snarking, chewing food, all these things that some manufacture a great actor narrative out of, is far from great acting (and it seems all the casting directors and producers in Hollywood agree) and has been totally inappropriate for the character and has undermined any attempt to redeem or accept him. So now he’s the victim of molestation; who wouldn’t feel sorry for him now? A lot of people.

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    Sheri replied

    While there may be “a lot of people who don’t like Franco because of Roger”, rest assured there are many more who DO like Franco BECAUSE of Roger.
    James Franco played a dark, demented Franco who granted, had a brain tumor, but there was nothing about James that made me think there was any humor, compassion, love in him. His Franco was written as nonredeemable, and he had no intention of staying long enough on GH to flesh out the character. It’s obvious you didn’t care for the actor or the story, but don’t make the assumption that you are correct in your opinion. Everyone has an opinion.

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    MB replied

    Sheri, lol! Yes everyone has an opinion, I shouldn’t assume I am correct, but you state your opinion as fact. “rest assured there are many more who DO like Franco BECAUSE of Roger.” OK sure.

    Yes, James Franco’s Franco was written nonredeemable and Roger’s Franco is on five years and story after story of redemption because he hasn’t been able to pull it off. The writing for his Franco, unlike the original, has been there for redemption, but Roger’s snarky schtick has undermined it at every turn. So now the writers have gone to the abused child who saved another child, who couldn’t be sympathetic with to that, even if you have to put up with all the embarrassing scenery chewing?

    And no James Franco had no intention of staying around, he’s an in demand actor, he doesn’t need to rely on Frank Valentini for a steady paycheck.

    Timmm replied

    I think most people like or respect Roger’s talent as an actor. The character of Franco should have stayed dead! Roger should have been brought on as a Quartermaine from day one. Not Jason or AJ, a lost Q! Matter of fact, they should kill off Franco and bring Roger back as a totally different character. Everyone wins!

    Shay replied

    @Sheri…And there are also many people who don’t like Franco simply because of Franco! This was a repulsive character, period! Trying to reinvent him as a warm and fuzzy misunderstood jokester with a good heart (ala RoHo) who was driven to perpetrating his hideous crimewave because of a brain tumor, child molestation, global warming, whatever, still doesn’t excuse or negate the fact that it actually happened, and numerous victims were traumatized by his heinous actions. All the revisionist history in the world cannot change that…especially for those of us who originally witnessed it and were appalled by the sick, twisted nature of his behavior as portrayed by James Franco.

    Boes replied

    Well said.

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    Patrick replied

    THIS

    is important : “… his version of Franco has been a joke. His “style” of twitching, stuttering, blinking, snarking, chewing food, all these things that some manufacture a great actor narrative out of ”

    PLUS : all the leeway given HIM from Frank Valentini…. ALL THE LEEWAY allotted a pet… Frank Valentini agenda… and PROPPED like no other

    ENOUGH of this crapola

    tell me the subject matter is important… another “prop” used to sidebar Frank and Roger agenda. give significance to and the rest will follow

    SICK of the agenda … Roger Howarth, Michael Easton, Chad Duell, Steve Burton, being led by Laura Wright and Maurice Benard, Wes Ramsey. CRAP . stink on shit

    this is NO Bravo Performance. HOW THEY ( GH Writers ) culminated and THINK they’ve ended the story and brought closure… is roger going to get it ? is roger redemptive.

    expletive… in your face Frank Valentini… your agenda is noted

    you think you have so many zingers going… all in the direct affect of your dullard

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    Patrick replied

    Michael Easton : March 13, 2012

    Roger Howarth: May 29, 2013 ( as Franco )

    FRANK VELENTINI : what is the effin problem with you ?

    YOU : are the problem laying waste to GH.

    these two have been ON – and – ON for OVER 5 years.

    can you imagine if this was a vet and or a long tenured employee.. think Tyler Christopher… and you couldn’t cut it

    you waste so much time.. in two forgettable characters . they mean nothing to the canvas.

    you feature the dullest couples.. because you think they look good together

    you need to be fired

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    Timmm replied

    Thats it Patrick, Frank has made this his show! If you read next weeks spoilers, 3/4 of the actors in the spoilers are from Frank’s stable! It sucks!

    Shay replied

    @Patrick….Add to that nearly four years and counting—-May 1, 2014—of Michelle Stafford’s Nina…another grand soap get gone awry, propped by countless characters old and new and still possessing no discernible purpose on the GH canvas but to chew scenery and take the spotlight from other more deserving characters!

    rebecca1 replied

    MB

    You’re completely “angry” when you speak about Franco/Roger. Not just on this page but the other. Clearly, the character and the actor isn’t working for you.

    No one can say “most” like or dislike. But I’ll tell you, as Sheri told you, that MANY of us love Roger, the way he’s made the role of Franco his own and “Franco” as he is now portrayed.

    He’s not being “propped!” It’s ridiculous already. They gave Franco a backstory. It was needed since he wasn’t going to be an occasional crazy ala Helena or Faison coming around to terrorize people. Yes, that’s what he was SUPPOSED to be when they cast James Franco and the character was only written for an arc. But that changed. As a viewer, we go with the changes because we’re not writing the story. The story is Franco acted as he did because the tumor controlled impulse, morality and behavior. It was removed; thus we get the REAL Franco, the boy that saved his “brother”, the boy that was so capable of love and the need to protect that he sacrificed himself to save “Andrew.” That fits in perfectly with who Franco’s been since he had the tumor removed. Troubled? Yes. Confused? Yes. Defensive? Yes. Now that he’s unraveled his past he’ll hopefully be able to be the man that the little boy would have become if he hadn’t had the tumor or the abuse.

    You can buy it or not. We all decide whether a story/character is working for us or not. But to those of us who are loving it and Roger’s portrayal, it’s a great story, we love the character, we love Franco and Liz and we’re loving Franco and Drew.

    You can rage about it but it’s not going to change the facts.

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    Harry replied

    Rebecca:

    I feel like I am always picking on you but please know it comes from a place of unconditional acceptance. I mean, I am really comfortable picking on you! How is that for a back handed compliment?
    I just wanted to say that I think I am following MB on Twitter and from what I have seen, he/she is a really good person. MB is an animal rescuer and is constantly trying to rescue mistreated dogs and cats. I don’t share his/her disdain for Roger as Franco anymore than I share my dear friends’ unmitigated love for this man/character. Honestly, I don’t get either side. Mostly, I feel nothing but apathy for the Franco character. I don’t think anyone can argue the fact that it was a huge mistake to make Howarth this character. After all, Franco is the end result of James Franco’s mental masturbation. I don’t mean to be vulgar but that pretty much sums it up–Franco was never meant to be a permanent character and giving Howarth this role was a passive-aggressive response on the part of the EP’s in regard to the whole Prospect Park mess. I just don’t see how any one can quibble with what I just stated as this is the truth of the matter. The end result of what I just stated was five years of damage control writing, five years of redemptive story lines and five years of history revisionism and viewers suffered because of it. I do think it cost GH viewers as the ratings plunged in accordance with the aforementioned damage control writing.
    That said, I am ready to let go of this whole Franco mess. Roger really did an amazing job pulling it together near the end of this story arc and the damage control writing really tied it up ever so neatly.
    So I am ready to move on.

    rebecca1 replied

    Harry; I think you and I have a love/hate relationship! LOL! (you know I never “hate” you; you just get on my last nerve!!!!) hahahahhaah…I’m cracking myself up over here. My beautiful lil girl cat woke me up at 4am and I wasn’t able to fall back to sleep. Delirium has set in…

    I have nothing against MB. Don’t know why you felt a need to defend him/her. However, several messages regarding Franco expressed is a bit…:

    See MB’s first sentence way above this thread:

    “t’s “clear” that Roger gave a masterful performance? Clear? Really? I don’t think so and neither do plenty of other people”….

    It’s anger like that that I was reacting to. I think all viewers have strong opinions of characters; can’t help it when you get so hooked in. And you know that I certainly get that!

    But I told you once before when someone else stated about a character (not sure which one) “the character isn’t working for us” or “the character is a fail and isn’t working” that I think we should add a “for me” or “for many.” I think when we defend our opinions on such we need to know it may not be working for you or “others” but not to imply that it’s an across-the board-feeling. Then YOU felt the need, once again, to tell me it’s implied. I don’t think so. I think some feel that a character is universally (within the soap world) disliked and if a viewer defends a character than he/she is the odd man out. It’s just all so subjective…

    On another note, you also felt the need (!!!! what’s UP with you and me!!! you were so “defensive” when I disagreed with you on, LOL, MANY topics and instead of debating me or reiterating/explaining your opinion you jumped at me and said, “I don’t take my soaps as seriously as you…blah, blah, blah, “I just watch to escape” (something like that) I was like, (so Valley Girl of me) but I was like, “Wha?????” WHAT is he tawkin’ bout!” You go off on your opinion all the time and take people to task on certain things. So, still waiting for that apology. But I digress…

    Regarding your other post to me, I do think there is more Drew bashing from Jason fans; you said you thought it both sides. From what I’ve seen Billy Miller has taken the biggest hit. Even you have called him “dough boy.” (By the way, I think he’s lost weight and I wouldn’t mind being his rolling pin. So crude but oh-so clever, yes?) Ahem. Point is there’s a lot of, shall we say, aggression coming out of the diehard “JaSam” choir.

    I like Jason AND Drew; sing both their praises.

    Now go bark at someone else! ;)

  12. Mister Media says:

    Bravo to Roger Howarth and Billy Miller for their performances. Now that Franco has learned this horrible secret it would be amazing to see him reach out to Michael Corinthos, whose prison rape he arranged when he had a brain tumor. It would be nearly hypocritical if he did not, but most of all, if written well it could be an amazing series of scenes – a victim of sexual abuse reaching out to someone whose own sexual abuse he was responsible for. Come on GH, do it! Long live GH!

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    Rebecca1 replied

    Hi Mister Media…It was established a long time ago that Franco didn’t arrange Michael’s rape. He instructed that freak prisoner to scare Michael ax a means to hurt Jason, since he knew how close Jason and Michael were. But he never told the guy to rape him. Unfortunately setting that guy on Michael resulted in that heinous act even though that wasn’t Franco’s intention.

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    Mister Media replied

    Thanks for the clarification. I still hear some characters mention this among Franco’s transgressions, but perhaps they don’t know the whole story. I think there’s still enough of a connection between the two events to merit a scene or two.

    Rebecca1 replied

    You’re welcome. I think some viewers literally don’t know while some still insist he ordered the rape. Others refuse to believe his tumor caused his anti-social, violent tendencies. It’s been established several times that the location of the tumor was on the part of the brain that controls behavior, morality, etc. When Franco doubted himself the othe day in Kevin’s office Kevin explained it to him again. Only way they could really redeem the character. I think they did a great job and I agree with you. Kudos to Roger. He’s been fantastic in depicting a broken man. Billy, too, as you said, has done a great job

    I think it would be great if Franco reaches out go Michael at some point. Not sure how receptive he’d be since Sonny, Carly and Jason will probably hold on to their hatred for him.

    Harry replied

    Rebecca, sorry to quibble with you, but yes, Franco (then played by James Franco) did in fact orchestrate the rape of young, virginal Michael. If not for Franco, it would never have happened. Please, let us not allow the fans to rewrite history–it’s bad enough the writers are doing so.

    Satan replied

    And right there is the first (among many reasons) reason that I cannot stand Frodd, and the propping of this useless character..

    The convenient DVDs and/or brain tumor supposedly absolving him of all of his previous sins.

    I’m the Devil. I literally have millions of people down here in Hell who have used every excuse imaginable to justify the sins they have committed. Most of them are more creative than brain tumors and DVDs which suddenly materialized out of nowhere, but they don’t work.Those folks are still in Hell, because they’re still guilty of what they did.

    Franco was very much behind the prison rape of Michael. And while it was never explicitly said on the show, he probably was also behind bribing the sleazy judge who sent Michael to prison on a bogus charge in the first place. What would be the point of arranging for a convict to rape somebody, if you didn’t have a guarantee that the victim would be incarcerated at all?

    Michael was completely justified in bashing Claudia’s skull in when she was trying to kill his mother and steal his newborn baby sister. No sane judge would have ever convicted him for doing so, but a bribed judge probably would. The fact that the same judge was dating Michael’s grandmother Monica made the whole thing even more sickening, but that’s beside the point.

    About the only crime of Franco’s that was ever ambiguous was whether or not he actually raped Sam when she was on her honeymoon with Jason. We never actually saw that happen, though the scene was deliberately set to make Jason think so, and Sam (being drugged) could never be sure either way. But it was still kidnapping and assault (grabbing a naked woman in the shower and drugging her) even if no actual rape occurred. No DVD and no brain tumor is going to keep Frodd out of Hell, that I can guarantee you.

    rebecca1 replied

    Harry and Sat…

    First: Harry. I replied to you but it “didn’t make the cut” so please read my reply to

    Satan:

    First, LOL, since you refuse to drop your alter personality (are you really Abigail? DOOL? Ring a bell?) I digress…

    It amazes me when a viewer refuses to go along with the “truth” in a story. We can judge each other; we don’t have to believe what “real” people say or the excuses they give, but we’re watching a fictional character created by the writers who have now given Franco a backstory. It truly doesn’t matter what you THINK he did when he was played by James Franco. “Franco”, at that time, was meant to be a contained story arc. We all knew they were going to redeem the character once he was being played by Roger, or Roger wouldn’t have an ongoing role!

    Putting that aside, unless you can point to dialogue or a youtube video, something, anything, where we hear Franco order Michael’s rape, then all it was at the time was speculation. Franco (then) was a lunatic. A creative, murderous, genius. A twisted soul who was obsessed with Jason and baited him with mind games.

    If he wanted to rape Sam he would have; could have. He didn’t. It was purposely filmed in such a way that you could see Franco relishing the thought of how this would torture Jason. He was interested in filming it just right; staging it. He set it up to look like he raped her and got the response he was hoping for. The writers don’t even have to change history for that; it always seemed like he staged it.

    As for Michael? Again, you’re speculating. We never heard any “order.” And when Roger took over the role the first thing he did as “Franco” was explain with his “show and tell” dvd’s that he ordered the prisoner to protect Michael from other prisoners. Is that credible? Perhaps. Maybe now that we know Franco was molested as a child his subliminal kicked in instinctively and he didn’t want a teenage boy assaulted in that way. Or, maybe he wanted to keep Michael around to use against Jason and he couldn’t do that if Michael was destroyed emotionally.

    Now, to play “devil’s” advocate, let’s say you’re right. Let’s say the writers did have Franco order the rape. The point is, obviously, we go where the writers take us. It doesn’t matter what they implied years ago; they’ve now (as in since Roger took over the role) made it clear Franco DID NOT have Michael raped. So, are we going to argue with the writers who created a fictional character? In the story, as it stands, Franco didn’t order the rape. So when people say, “how can Liz let a rapist be around her boys, how can Liz (who was raped) be in love with Franco, how can Liz, be with someone who…

    She can, because in the story as it stands he DIDN’T do those things. And the things he did, as per the writing, he did because of the tumor! LOL! I don’t know how you can dispute a writer’s story. They’re not recounting actual history.

    What drives me crazy is when Carly keeps insisting AJ pushed her down the stairs and that’s why she lost her baby. You can actually watch the scene on youtube and see AJ grab her arm because she was taunting him, and when she pulled back her arm from him in a huff, she fell back and down the stairs. So, THAT drives me nuts because we can actually go back and “review the tapes” so to speak and see it for ourselves.

    IF there’s a scene that literally depicts Franco ordered the rape obviously I’m wrong. I don’t think there is. And, IF there is, at this point it doesn’t matter. There’s no point in hating a character for what he did if the writers say he didn’t do it.

    This gets crazier and crazier but I think you get my drift.

    Harry? Did you get all that? ;)

    Harry replied

    Rebecca, what I resent is being told we didn’t see what we saw. I do not like being told that what we experienced as viewers did not in fact, happen.
    We know Franco orchestrated the rape of 18 year old Michael, who was a virgin at the time. I remember being disgusted and disturbed by this very dark turn of events. Later, damage control writing merges with history revisionism in an effort to give Franco a character make over. That’s what I resent.
    Yes, Carly jerked backwards in the heat of the moment–AJ did not push her. Carly told everyone at the time that AJ pushed her and viewers knew that was not the case. Carly still maintains this. But that was not a case of history revisionism– that was a case of two different perceptions of reality.

    rebecca1 replied

    Harry? Really? You think Carly had a different “perception” of reality. Since you say you don’t like being told what we didn’t see, you can clearly see that Carly jerked her arm away from AJ and fell backward. There is no difference in perception. Someone grabbing another’s arm is not the same as “pushing” which is what she keeps saying he did. I literally looked at the scene on youube very recently.

    I’ll repeat what I said above; please refer me to the scene where we were told definitely that Franco (played by James Franco) ordered the rape. I don’t believe there is one. What I do remember is the prisoner who DID commit the rape say, “Franco says hello.” That came out of the rapists mouth. Still, no proof why Franco sent him there. All we do know is what Franco as Roger said and showed on the DVD. Was there one when it was played by James? Did the writers alter it/history? Seems to me they had leeway and they went with it. So, as it stands today, Franco didn’t order the rape.

    As I also said, even if that’s how it stands in the current incarnation, if you can point me to a video of the show at that time where we hear Franco ordering it, well then, there it is. I’m open to it if you point me there.

  13. Steve says:

    No matter how good Roger’s performance ever is, there’s no redemption story for this character that possibly interests me.

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    Jenn replied

    Okay Steve.

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    Boes replied

    Exactly.

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    Patrick replied

    it wasn’t a good performance.

    WHY did he not finish off with Jim Harvey @the hospital parking lot ?

    the drawn out affect… RH Franco WIMPED OUT.

    I thoroughly enjoyed Greg Evigan performance. well done.

    his stammering keeping his thoughts to himself because he didn’t trust Liz. OKEY DOKEY give me an effin break

    it’s almost like NOW their is this haled aura of OKEY DOKEY it’s in the bag… BS

    DAG collect my paycheck and mind the blinders and go along. it’s just a job

    mUCK the writing.. and the EP value

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    Patrick replied

    it’s almost like NOW their is this haled aura

    it’s almost like NOW their is this Haloed auro

    halo and charm this nut cause he’s in the whole … arena of doesn’t give a damn

    rebecca1 replied

    He didn’t want to just blow Harvey away in the parking lot. He wanted a written confession on all the other children he’d abused and he wanted the satifsfacton of looking him in the face and telling him he knew what he’d done to him; he wanted the satisfaction of telling Harvey he was going to kill him for it.

    As for not trusting Liz, I would assume it’s not easy to blurt out that you just found out you were sexually molested over and over again as a child. The way he finally told her at the end, in the hospital scene, was, for me, beautiful.

    rebecca1 replied

    Hi Mister Media (lol; so funny when we address each other by some of these “creative” names!)

    I want to correct something I told you. I originally recalled Franco sent in the prisoner to “scare” Michael (but not to rape him). I now recall what I explained to Harry, that Franco (as Roger) had a DVD which he showed to the Quartermaine’s that proved he didn’t order the rape, but rather sent the prisoner to protect Michael. The prisoner then went and did what he did. Either way, the writers have exonerated Franco from the rape although many were led to believe that he ordered it. (Just wanted to be consistent in my answer.

    Shay replied

    Amen, Steve!

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Long time no word from you, dear. I know it has been hard to get on here, but climb every mountain, ford every stream-post your thoughts and feelings, then we’ll have ice cream!

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Serious abandonment issues, Missy! Loved Mama’s family when it was on Carol Burnett show and Mama was way more mean and spiteful. My mother hated when these came on- I loved it and knew it was her mother and a bit of her as well- even at my tender age. Mommie Dearest. RIP.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Perhaps Peter August is not Faison’s son-but believes he is? I mean they twist and change things so much it would not surprise me if Faison’s other son is still unknown to us.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Just read your shout out to Heather Webber. Cancel the nurses ball and let her escape and I would be delighted. Or let her crash it and really have a ball. Who did Steven Lars murder and why? Isn’t he due for a parole-it has been several years-perhaps he has a brain tumor as well-he is Franco’s half-brother. Give Heather a tumor and free her-I miss her. Also miss Kathleen Gati and have the feeling we will not be seeing her at the ball, either. Also Madelyn-Donna Mills-she won an Emmy for her last short stint-does she not deserve another visit to Port Charles?

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I don’t care what anyone says about Melania-I love her outfits-total Erica Kane and a stunning State Din-Din. I can not get over Macron. I could possibly find him the most fascinating man alive. I don’t know about his political views-all I know is
    he exudes an irresistible appeal. Heading to Hollywood today, my darling Vera Donovan-you are welcome on any of my travels, but somehow, I know that a carpool cross-country in the Pontiac and Emmy’s tailgate party-not your cup of tea. Have a lovely day.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Hey, Shaynaia Twain-riddle me this: when did pantyhose, stockings, nylons-all just pretty much totally disappear? When, how and why? So now, it is considered fashionable, and correct to wear a dress and heels to any occasion, with bare legs-that is the norm and style now? Even in winter and formal events? I have many a fond memory of those little eggs with the control tops inside. Memories. Misty watercolor.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    You know, when I crawled back here several weeks ago-was utterly depressed. I have a long way to go, but am feeling much better. So appreciative of you, seriously. I am sick of politics too and of same old same old. When I saw what I wrote to you about our remaking Little House was posted on here-I was giddy and gleeful. I read and re-read it-and yes I would love to be able to correct and edit my errors-and also perhaps spend more time in fleshing out the details. What I am trying to say is, I think I am really enjoying writing. But no fun if nobody else reads it and gives a response. I think I have become a crack-addict to this site and our conversations and others as well. But I also fear too much Phyllis not good and people get sick of me and wish I would go away.
    I am not tooting my own horn-am being totally honest with you and await your response. Anyway, I read the Prairie snippets and laugh out loud-does that indicate a psychiatric condition? I don’t know, but I am getting much more pleasure from creating our reboots and so forth-than I am from watching tv and eating-which I think is good. I don’t have any grand aspirations-nor delusions of grandeur-be brutally honest-I know you can-something for me to pursue or put down the crack pipe, Judy? Maybe a blog or something-really not sure and perhaps I am wrong about the whole thing. Let me know.

  14. megan says:

    Great analysis of the scenes, I completely agree with Fairman’s assessment, Howarth deserves the power performance this week though Billy Miller was terrific also, subtle yet powerful. There are those fans who will never like the Franco character or accept any attempt at his redemption, and I think that is fine. At this stage he needs no redemption, the show should move on from his past. RoHo has proven his place on the show, this week again he showed why he is one of the best actors in the business, and for every fan that doesn’t like his character, many more do. Franco is popular, Friz is popular, RoHo is going nowhere. I am thrilled for that because of these kinds of powerful performances. RoHo makes you believe he is experiencing the story, not just acting it. And I love the possibilities of a friendship with Drew, they have fantastic chemistry.

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    rebecca1 replied

    Excellent post, megan! I agree with every word you wrote (so much so that if your name wasn’t attached to it I’d think it was mine! ;) )

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    megan replied

    Thanks! I was very moved by those scenes, and I think more and more of us are happy to see a Franco now freed to move on to new story, and from his past—or at least not tethered to it over and over.

    Patrick replied

    ^^^ I completely agree… ( which surprised me ) how the truth was finally understood by Liz. as the scene fades with Liz head on his lap and we see Drew . cut

    I hope the “brotherhood” is not drawn out… if Franco got his backbone out of this. all the better. just some new direction already. I don’t think “Jason” will be running a trio with Drew or Franco. GH needs that divisive dynamic

  15. su0000 says:

    BRAVO BRAVO !!!
    Roger, you are phenomenal da`man, , great performance! great portrayal !

    lol poor Franco :(
    OK- I see the haters as cud-chewers LOL
    the cow regurgitates previously consumed food and masticates it a second time. Franco hate, it’s literally chewing on the same thing over and over again.
    Luckily for the cow, the food is digested at some point (but Franco haters keep puking it up and pushing the hate then puking it up again, never-ending chewing of the cud..
    —- said with love :)

    Some have need to talk about their hate of Franco at the mention of him, and by doing so then they are stuck and are a Ruminator. lol
    ((Ruminators have a problem with moving on ((and can’t stop talking hate about poor Franco. )) hate-mongering (for poor Franco.)
    Anyways;
    Franco is the the best-est one !!
    A unique strong sweet man, a man that during the past 5? years has fought his demons to find his true self.
    A character I want to hug .. Love Franco !!

    Roll on Franco & Drew !!

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    rebecca1 replied

    agree completely, su0000! well said!

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  16. Jenn says:

    This was the reason to watch GH the last two weeks! Bravo to all the actors for doing such an amazing job with a sensitive subject. I hooe we get more Billy & Roger scenes. They’re gold!

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  17. Maria says:

    Roger gave a powerful and heartbreaking performance as he recounted the abuse. When he said he would go to bed at night, closing his eyes and try so hard to disappear and then remember he couldn’t. Just broke my heart. How many children are facing those same devils night after night. His description of how Uncle Jim would pat the bed twice just about did me in.

    Whether or not you like Franco, Roger is a powerful actor who always delivers.

    Kudos to Billy Miller, Becky Herbst and Jon Lindstrom for their strong performances too.

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  18. k/kay says:

    Sorry if you are talking about this week as much as I absolutely hate the destruction of Jt on Y&R nobody brought it better then those two and I tell you bless their hearts to know that they are going thru rough times off camera they were just awesome professionals on screen it was indeed tough for me to watch I know MY had his reasons but still sad I adored JT and his romance with Colleen but it was a story that needed to be told three of my sisters and my mom know abuse and it is very sad.

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    It is a story that needs to be told-again and again and it is sad. I agree Y&R totally knocked it out of the park-all involved-writing, acting. etc.

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    Shay replied

    No abandonment intended, my dear Ms. DeMarco…Seems my ”climbing and fording” attempts failed to reach your inbox…No matter, I shall continue to endeavor, especially with the promise of ice cream…by the way, I prefer gelato these days…how about you???? But seriously, I’m sorry Eunice’s familial ordeals didn’t make for happy viewing in your household. My own mother adored the inspired insanity of Carol’s crazy characters….for us, watching them was nothing less than an hilarious bonding experience! As for our mutually-beloved Anna, there has been some talk that her “son” may not be the actual fruit of Faison’s loins but sprung from those of her ensuite showerman, Scorpio! Given I simply don’t like Peter, Peter Shakespeare Reader no matter his paternity, I certainly hope that twist is not forthcoming…having him ultimately revealed as the “Faux Heinrik” would be much preferable.

    Shay replied

    Glad you caught the Heather-mention, Phyllis! Personally, any storyline which puts her legendary badness back on the mean streets of Port Charles is okay by me, but if the showrunners insist upon presenting the moldy old NB once again, then Dr. O. should forcibly hijack the event and present a one-woman show…All Dr. O—-All the time! It would be epic…a true showcase of Kathleen Gati’s immense talents! And yes, her sis Magda needs a return engagement, as well, That “Swiss Sib” duo was inspired madness…so many superb possibilities for high-camp drama!!!! Oh, and Britt should be included the mix, too…Westbourne Women Rule!

    Shay replied

    @Phyllis…Yes, my dear………I do believe the pleasures of posting here can become a trifle addictive, as does immersing one’s self in retro tv programming! Perhaps a change to something more current would do you good? Don’t forget to tune into “Call the Midwife” tonight…just two episodes to go on the most recent season, although you can easily catch up on the previous series online…I promise the last few of this present batch delivers some real melodrama…get your box of tissues ready! And next week’s finale is a great vehicle for our beloved Judy Parfitt’s “Sister Monica Joan,” so make sure not to miss it! I’ve already viewed the entire lot, since they were previously telecast in the UK a month or so ago, so I can highly recommend them!

    Celia replied

    JT’s angst and hate has always been directed toward Victor because of Colleen….you are soooo right, Kay. I will go as far as to say that he did not work for Paul and Cricket in the name of justice. It was in the name of Colleen—-he was driven by revenge.
    And, inasmuch as JT professed his love for Victoria, and convinced himself of said love, subconsciously, he ‘loved’ and used Victoria to get to Victor, as I said from the onset.
    Perhaps his vendetta for Victor brought about his change in demeanor …….something so turbulent does fester, psychologically, in one’s mind and emotions…..he became a violent, wife-beater ….I guess he never got over Colleen.

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Actually, this show has been most excellent and highly entertaining and suspense and humor and-really loving it and think all concerned-actors, writers-everyone-has and is doing a great job and I want to acknowledge and thank them. Have a great weekend, Celia!

    Celia replied

    @Phyllis.
    Oh, yes, Ms DeMarco…..most definitely!!!!! Y&R’s stories are relevant, poignant and real…
    The presentation has been excellent, albeit Phyllis’ amateur sleuthing was sort of ridiculous.
    The ‘dumping’ of JT’s body idea was soooo not-thought-through. I wonder if the writers are trying to make dummies out of women.
    It was self-defense, with witnesses…..Nevertheless, I do believe JT is alive. Reed will find him and kill him ‘again’ when JT tries to kill Victoria.
    Thank you, Phyllis…..enjoy your weekend, as well. Smiles, my friend.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Hello, dear. I always wondered if Victor had diddled the lady doc- the one scene where they were dressing, I believe-I at first thought perhaps it was after a physical exam. Mmmhmm. I love the surprises! I always liked Crackerjacks-but more often than not, bitterly disappointed in the toy surprise. Did you get my baguette pizza recipe-it really is delish.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    If you can get ahold of I want to Live with Susan Hayward- I believe she won an oscar for her performance-love it. Also Bette Davis in The Star and Joan Crawford in Mildred Pierce.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    From the other page- Kelly was Stitch’s sister- Meredith Baxter their mom and Max-his evil spawn son. They still have not replaced the GCAC manager since Kelly left. I did apply for the job and never heard back. Gloria would be excellent at that job-and with convenient access to guest rooms would surely please many a weary travelin’ man. I don’t see my baguette recipe. French or Sourdough- love the ones from Trader Joe’s and they freeze great, too! Brown lean ground beef-add garlic, onions, peppers, mushrooms-whatever you like add jar of pasta sauce-you want a thick chunky consistency -salt pepper basil oregano a little thyme good too. heat that through well spoon onto baguettes sliced in half on baking sheet top with shredded Mozzarella or Italian blend -more cheese is always better bake about 10 mins-not too long keep eye on it finish under broiler quickly to get a good melt on cheese cut serve with tossed salad. Excellent. Quick, Easy.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Barbara Graham was the name of the woman Susan Hayward portrayed in “I Want to Live” -finally remembered it. Based on a true story, although many say that Hayward’s version of “Bloody Babs”-as the press referred to her at the time-was a kinder, gentler Babs, perhaps not even really involved in the actual murder-when in truth, Babs was a sociopathic daughter of a prostitute, who turned to drugs and prostitution herself. Read the Wikipedia on her- soap-tour-de-force. Babs and her accomplices-who were also executed-Babs knocked on Mabel Monihan’s door to gain entry in order to rob her. Babs took a turn at pistol-whipping Mabel herself. Love Babs to visit Port Charles.

  19. Quinn says:

    Just give the Emmy to Roger Howarth. Seriously.
    Also, bravo to all the actors in this story who were simply brilliant. Billy Miller, Greg Evigan, Rebecca Herbst, Jon Lindstrom and Deborah Strang.
    I appreciated the longer scenes (6 minutes!) during the Harvey & Franco confrontation instead of the usual choppy 45 seconds scenes on GH. It reminds me of soaps from 25 years ago.

    I think one of the screencaps was taken by Jenn.

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  20. Boes says:

    Oh please. Show will sink to any level, any at all, to make this character relevant, use anything at all to explain away how repellent Franco is, always was and always will be.

    Bull fark on this latest pathetic and offensive attempt.

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  21. rpm says:

    While he is always good the gh favortism reeks yet again my fave is days but the perfornance of the week goes to Amelia Heinle on young and restless and major shout to Sharon Case MST and is Tognoni finally becoming Phyliss friday young and the restless was flawless

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  22. KAROL MAHLE says:

    I LOVED IT, HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB.

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  23. JK says:

    ROGER HOWARTH WAS TERRIFIC!!!!!!!!!! WHETHER YOU LIKE THE STORYLINE OR NOT, HE IS ONE HELL OF AN ACTOR!!!!!!

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  24. Kevin says:

    I am amused reading the above posts.

    I think the writing team created great material to flesh out a once one dimensional baddie. They have provided insight and layers to the character while shedding light on a sad social issue. The actors involved ALL have done a fantastic job bringing the story to life.

    None was more vested than Roger Howarth – kudos! Regardless the complaints of others, I believe the Franco character’s redemption can be accomplished despite any humorous shtick or interesting quirky traits he brings to the role.

    Not everyone has to agree. But the writers also don’t have all the GH characters in agreement about Franco’s redemption, either. And that, I think, keeps life and the storyline interesting. This microcosm of postings is proof of that – THANKS GH!

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    rebecca1 replied

    great post, Kevin.

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    JK replied

    WELL SAID!!

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  25. jeanine girard says:

    Terrific heartfelt performances from all involved here. While aspects of the storyline were disjointed, there is no denying there were some very moving performances.
    I’d like to see Franco take a step back before he moves back in with Liz & family. Drew and Franco are the best couple on the show, love to see them bonding while healing.
    Unless I missed it, was there any type of public service announcement, preferably with Roger with where those in that situation can go for help? If they did not, that would be a big miss (in my opinion).

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  26. rose says:

    I have never liked the Franco character, especially James Franco’s version. They are mostly all ugly stories, and I still can’t see him with Liz. But I have to give credit to Roger for doing a great job along with Greg Evigan to what I hope raps up the abused child story. Now let’s get back to good old fashioned soaps with love and adventure in the afternoon if ABC and GH even knows how to do this anymore.

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    Allen Saint James replied

    Gh would probably make a bit of a comeback if they return to form Action Love and adventure. The stakes were so high back then and the need to find out the next piece of a puzzle kept u tuning in Day after day.

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    Violet Lemm replied

    Rose, do you mean stories of domestic violence, children and parents against each other, mental issues, families tearing each other apart, murder and mayhem, bringing people back from the dead, etc.,etc. If its love and adventure you want, without the above, you’ll never find it on a soap opera, and never on one I’ve ever seen in over sixty years. I remember the shows of only 15 minutes with stuff to make your blood run cold. I guess I missed the wished for shows, you are speaking of.
    I do agree with Roger and Greg’s performance. Roger is amazing, as always, never lets the fans down. I could not believe G.E’s acting in this role, after seeing him years ago, with his buddy “bear”.

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    rose replied

    Hi Violet…You have a really good point about soaps not always being love and adventure. I wasn’t a daily viewer of OLTL but didn’t Erica have to battle her mental problem of good Vicky and alter ego bad Vicky? And wasn’t there a really bad dude as part of the mix? And guns being used in all soaps currently to solve problems. Except for so called mob boss Sonny, why? The rest aren’t criminals. Not very responsible in lieu of what’s been happening in real life.

    But GH has been my soap of choice over the years, and at least when there were the issues you mentioned they didn’t seem so heavy, and at times could have a sense of humor in them. Especially if Lucy was involved. And it’s not just the wished for shows I’m speaking of or missing…there’s plenty in real life that fall into the same categories.

    But lately GH is layered with not just one, or two, or three “serious,” downer stories, but several all at once, and not with the tone of earlier years GH.

    Waiting for happier writing.

    Shay replied

    So then, we have Rose and Violet present and accounted for….where the heck are Hyacinth and Daisy???? Surely they cannot be far behind…perhaps they are delayed by some outlandish escapade they’ve fallen into with Richard and Onslow?

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    rose replied

    Hi Shay…Guess you lost me on all of the names. Who are they ? Have been thinking of you re: things British. I’ve been watching “Suits” since the beginning. Now they are writing Meghan off the show as she heads off to her new “adventure.” I know, I know, not the adventure you like. The Queen had her 92nd birthday this weekend. I mentioned in another post…it was coincidental (to me) that it was the same day of Barbara Bush’s funeral. Two women who seemed to have things in common, and dare I say it…about the same age. And Kate had a baby boy today. Now we have to wait for his name. Beautiful day here for a change. :)

    Shay replied

    @Rose…Hello again! I was referring to the beloved Britcom called “Keeping Up Appearances,” which I thought had been run to death on every PBS station in this country over the past few decades. It featured a social climbing woman named Hyacinth Bucket (which she pronounced as “bouquet” because she thought it sounded more “upper crust!”…) and her decidedly peculiar family which featured three sisters, all of whom had floral-based monikers. Dame Patricia Routledge, who is the wonderful actress who also portrayed “Hetty Wainthropp” in a mystery program that featured on PBS some time back, as well, portrayed the lead character and she played the snooty matron to the hilt. It was just a fun, harmless series in which hilarity often ensued as Hyacinth’s schemes for social superiority always went horribly awry. Check it out…the supporting cast is superb, too! As for the Duchess of Cambridge, well done!…May she continue to prodigiously reproduce so as to push the hopeless Hazza further down the pecking order to the throne…However, how she manages to don stilettos, walk out the front doors and down the front stairs of the Lindo Wing with newborn firmly in hand just hours after its delivery is beyond me…I give her props just for that feat alone! And yes, it will be interesting to find out what the latest royal tot is named…would like to see “Phillip” included in the mix, because I get a kick out of that old rascal, the Duke of Edinburgh, just as I do with numerous other no-nonsense types that comprise the “Greatest Generation.’ It’s sad to see so many of them leaving us, and that includes the former first lady…I always applauded her literacy efforts that her equally impressive daughter-in-law continued, and I supported both Presidents Bush 41 and 43 back in the day, but if I am to be honest, just as with Her Majesty, I was left extremely disappointed over some of the more recent comments and actions attributed to each of these women for whom I once harbored the utmost of admiration. Out of respect, I won’t expound further, let’s just say that where I could once trust my elders to uphold certain standards and historical traditions found in both American and British society, I am increasingly finding that to be a thing of the past. If you cannot look to distinguished individuals such as these to put their foot down regarding such matters, then who, I ask??? Anyway, Rose, do look into “Keeping Up Appearances,” along with “One Foot in the Grave” and “The Thin Blue Line.” All are prime examples of wickedly witty humor based upon the most absurd situations one could possibly imagine taking place “across the pond!” (Or not….) Take care!

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    rose replied

    Shay…Thanks for reminding me about “Keeping Up Appearances.” It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but one of my favorites. Then there was another character I found funny…Hyacinth’s sister Rose (trust me, we are nothing alike). And of course there’s “Are You Being Served.” By the way, I worked for the PBS and NPR stations in Columbus, Ohio. One of my favorite jobs.

    As for those who don’t always meet our expectations, I just figure no person is ever 100% in our eyes, and I could name several, but out of respect I too will let it go.

    And the new baby boy…just hope he can have his own name that hasn’t been too overused by those before him over the years. And doesn’t carry the baggage of some of his predecessors who did less than honorable things. So definitely not Henry.

    Shay replied

    Most definitely NOT Henry, Rose…Upon that much we can agree! (Always wondered what Di was thinking when she chose that one? Personally, I sense it was her husband’s idea…he’s always had a rather offbeat vibe about him… ) Probably would be best if Edward, Richard, Albert-Victor and even Charles, were overlooked as well, given their namesakes’ places in England’s gory history. So, you worked at one time for PBS? That must have been very interesting…I’ve long loved their foreign programming and musical offerings…As for Hyacinth’s “Rose,” trust me, I would never have pegged you as being anything like her…nonetheless, she certainly was colorful, eh? Oddly enough, the second actress who portrayed her, and was best known for the role, was a devout Christian who gave bible readings and church sermons….go figure! Hah….Yes, “Are You Being Served?” is another legendary Britcom classic…sad to think nearly the entire cast has now gone to that great department store in the sky…Today’s comedic offerings from across the pond just don’t seem to have the same wit and finesse that the oldies do. Besides “Miranda,” the only recent one I would even recommend is “Vicious.” (And it was just that! OMG! But funny…) Speaking of that show, its American producer, Gary Janetti, has taken to Instagram with a wicked spin on the Royals…he zings them like nobody’s business in the guise of Prince George…it’s pretty hilarious, and he’s especially ruthless when it comes to Sparkles…people wait with bated breath each and every day for his latest burns…he has quite a following that seems to be growing by leaps and bounds!!!! Anyway, just checked to see if there’s any word yet on the new royal tyke’s name….seems “Alexander” is being hinted as the possible choice. Nice one…

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    rose replied

    Shay…Before I respond just have to start with “Breaking Comment”…As of Wednesday, are Alexis and Finn taking their wounded nerves to the next level? I’m sure you have something to say about this. :) )

    “Yes” PBS was interesting and stimulating. One of my favorite places to work. It was the central Ohio affilate licensed to Ohio State University and still includes NPR, local news and a great classical music station. I was a development Officer, a position that brought in money for programming, not unlike an advertising rep for publications in the commercial world.

    I do like Alexander. Maybe we will find out today.

    Shay replied

    And Rose, I shall start with “Breaking News”…..”Prince Louis!” How very….French! I do understand this choice’s historical significance, as linked to the late “Uncle Dickie” Mountbatten, but liked a lot of other rumored names better! Does make me wonder if India Hicks, his granddaughter and a junior bridesmaid at the wedding of Lady Diana Spencer and Prince Charles, will be one of the designated godmothers to this latest royal baby, since it sort of brings the familial connection full circle…just a thought. Anyway, I also unfortunately caught Alexis taking her latest flying leap ala Finn and thought basta, basta….how I hope that most tasteless of tussles will be the last….Quite frankly, the only term that comes to my mind when I see those two engaged in their cringeworthy activities is not “friends with benefits,” but rather the decidedly inelegant one that begins with an “f” and ends with buddies…please, no more! As for your PBS past, sounds super…by the way, do enjoy MhzInternational programming in your neck of the woods, too? Love their foreign mystery shows…breathtaking locales, intriguing stories and beautiful casts! Oh, and loved your thoughts about London that you shared with the lovely Phyllis, although, alas, I think its best days are behind it…too dangerous these days….Oxford Street is always having insane incidents reported in the dailies….such a shame for the legendary Selfridges! (Hey, did you like the opulent three-season miniseries about Harry Gordon and his famous, groundbreaking department store? It made such a great companion piece for “Downton Abbey!” How I miss those two superb programs…nothing current can really compare….)

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    rose replied

    Not impressed with Louis. I know there is history in the name, but we’ll probably be hearing”Louie Louie” in celebration for the next while. Never watched or hear of MhzInternational. Hunted it up…sounds like interesting programming. Yes I liked Harry in Selfridges. Sad ending, but that sometimes happens to those who want to fly to close to the sun. An even though Oxford Street’s best may be behind it, I’m sure the stores I mentioned are still head and shoulders in elegance and selection than the Walmart world we are increasingly being left with. A few years ago I took me granddaughter on a London/Paris trip. While in London we “stumbled” on something to do one evening…the Broadway play “Wicked” was playing there. What an incredible production.

    Shay replied

    @Rose…..I think despite the good intentions, “Louis” rather went down like a lead balloon! But it is what it is….along with the accompanying “Arthur Charles!” Quite frankly, I wonder why they stopped with just the three names? In previous generations of royals, one could always depend upon at least four, if not five successive monikers…I like that!!! The more, the merrier, I say! At any rate, I hope you get the opportunity to check out Mhz…it offers a fine selection of international series from which to choose…all subtitled in English, but from many different countries of origin…I love it! Speaking of “Mr. Selfridge,” I noticed it is going to be repeated beginning this week…I think I may take another gander! Yes, his store is once again amongst the cream of the crop…it has enjoyed a resurgence in recent years due to new Canadian ownership…but you are so right about the sad state of American retailing. One of my favorite things about travelling to various locales as a child was the fact that everything was so unfamiliar….the stores, restaurants, local cuisine and lingo….it was always such an adventure! Now too much of life is so homogenized, no matter where one goes things are so alike …very disappointing! By the way, I had the pleasure of performing at your statehouse a number of times as a young teen…and explored the downtown Columbus area in the process. I vividly recall both the flagship Lazarus and original Limited locations. The latter especially appealed…I still have some of the beautiful Italian-made sweaters they once carried before going mass market and dying out. A real shame! Unfortunately, shopping is no longer an event in this country…even my favorite upscale destination mall with lots of designer boutiques, as well as Nordstrom and Saks anchors, has become a no-go-zone in recent years due to one highly-publicized undesirable incident after another….it’s no longer a viable venue to even consider, so the rap that the internet takes for the demise of the industry is really only part of the story….and to think, so much of my leisure time was once dedicated to browsing, lunching and shopping. I truly miss that relaxing, luxurious experience which has all but been relegated to the past….but better safe than sorry! Anyway, I also wanted to add that I saw your post on “tea” and would suggest that next time you are perusing the cookbook section in your favorite reading source, look for the one entitled “Claridge’s”….it features all of this London landmark’s iconic cuisine, including their legendary teatime treats! Looks scrumptious!

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  27. Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco says:

    For anyone following the Alzheimer’s storylines on GH or Y&R- highly recommend watching 60 minutes that aired 4/22. It chronicles a married couple-the wife has the illness and they have gone back every year for like 10 years I believe and it is utterly heart-wrenching and brings to light many issues that need to be discussed with family members. Check the CBS website to view the story- and grab the tissues.

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    rose replied

    Hi PhyllisFD…I missed the 60 Minutes story, but will try to see a replay of it. However I did see a followup up to it on CBS Morning today where they showed clips from 60 M, and the doctor was interviewed.
    You are so right…heart-wrenching amongst other things.

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Hello Rose, PhyllisFD reminds me of Mayberry RFD, which is where I think I truly belong. You should be able to see a replay of the entire story on the website and it is free. Yes it is heart-wrenching-both the stories on Y&R and GH are, and have brought me to tears. But this on 60 minutes a real-life story-he used to be NYPD- brought to his knees. Let me know if you see it and what you think. Thanks, Rose.

    rebecca1 replied

    Rose; perhaps you shouldn’t tune in. Haven’t you been saying you are kinda full of heavy stories. I would think a real life one would be even more difficult to watch. Why tune in? Check out Will & Grace instead; so much happier!

    rose replied

    PhyllisFD (I like your Mayberry reference) & Rebecca1…I’ve lived in Toronto “the good” off and on so what happened yesterday with the white van has made me rethnk reviewing the 60 Minutes alzheimer story. Just viewing the CBS News clip got the point across, combined with GH and Y&R. So I’ll probably not watch it, and sorta follow Rebecca’s advice…probably not Will & Grace but maybe Good Witch on Hallmark channel. I’m not ignoring some of the more difficult stories. Just taking a time out for a while, and watching my diet of bad news and it’s frequency to be better for the heavy stuff.

    But getting back to the white van…this type of sickness, hate, anger, or whatever has no borders either. And it’s just one thing after another. Gotta make you think how easy globalization, social media, and too much aiming low instead of high has fed into this. But too late now, Pandora’s box is open.

    As for GH yesterday. Feel bad for Mike, but he has obviously got to be watched more closely for everyones sake including his own. Ava…as Avery’s mother can’t fault her for wanting more time with her daughter and fearing for her safety. But I can fault her on how she spoke about Mike in front of him. Then there’s the holier than thou Sonny and Carly…enoughs been said about them so I won’t add my dislike when it comes to Avery.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Dear Rose, Just want to say that I always enjoy reading your posts. Always well-written, kind and thoughtful. Appreciate you, much.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Speaking of flowers- has anyone seen that Corpse Flower blooming in Tucson? You can google it and there is a live feed- it really is a site to behold-any the setting-with flowers and butterflies and hummingbirds-most delightful. Rarely blooms- up to ten years-and supposedly a most foul bouquet-but I would love to visit and get a good sniff myself.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    The white van- a whole subculture of bitter, angry men is it “incils”? Forced celibacy. Sick and disgusting and while I often find the two entertaining in fictional drama-this-not in the slightest. These losers need to point their tiny, crooked-shall we say fingers-at themselves. Take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror-then get a shrink and peek at the sepsis inside-and fix it. If i am not desireable-I blame myself-and work on correcting whatever it may be. To think that there are communites of these pigs that commiserate-get off the internet and into the gym-and I say that to myself as well-and whatever the mentality or I don’t know where this springs from or how long this has been brewing-but it is an insipid vile concoction. Misogony and self-pity twisted into a mindset of violence and rape. I can’t buy everything I want-so should I steal it- or perhaps work for it or have more realistic expectations?

    Shay replied

    Per your Melania comments, my dear Phyllis….YES! She is fabulous, a fashion goddess galore! Nobody, but nobody, owns stilettos like she does…and sunglasses, too! I so wanted to comment on that killer white suit and hat combo of yesterday, but thought better of it, given I didn’t want to create an opening for another major political ding-dong, even though you speak the truth purely from a style point-of-view! (I actually have a black hat like that, but rarely wear it because I find these days it attracts the wrong sort of attention and I try to stay low profile in public, but I’ve always loved a striking chapeau….) The LBD ensemble at the Bush funeral was equally stunnning…classy, simple, pure elegance! (Although I have to ask why some members of the family were strutting around in attire that looked far more apropos for a cocktail bar as opposed to a church service….) At any rate, it’s high time this fantastic FLOTUS gets the magazine covers she was born to grace!!!!!!!

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    We may tussle on this one-and feel free to toss me under the bus-still going to love you.
    Today is Alexis’ real-life birthday. Happy Birthday, dear.
    Say what you will about Alexis Davis-at least she has claimed all of her children by all of their assorted fathers. And I believe that she at least liked all of those men at the time the deed was done. Unlike Anna, who know we know was more than happy to sleep with the enemy-whom I have never found attractive-in the slightest. Then she schemed and lied and denied-and of course, cried, which she is a master at and kudos for that. And I love her despite her nefarious matings and hidden secret babies. And if-after all of this unglorious mess-they try and pin it on the sister-well– love twists and turns but at some point it just becomes a huge knotted mess and I am not inclined to participate.
    I don’t find any of what Alexis is given to be compelling. I have never gotten into super-couplings and ships and demanding that so and so be kept with him or her or whatever. More often than not, they marry a couple and then make them very boring and they are then back-burnered until one of them cheats or tries to kill the other. I would love to see a couple that remains interesting and stable and yet stable and loving. Are there any? I don’t find Lulu- I just don’t like the character at all. Love Dante, love to see him dump her and maybe even turn bad and follow in daddy’s footsteps.
    Alexis is in her early sixties- I think she looks fantastic-very attractive and in great shape and sexy. I could possibly resent her for this. I know she will reunite with Julian and has a huge psycho fanbase demanding and awaiting this. I like him with Kim. Prefer him with me-and all I ask for is a chance to see if there is chemistry-and my character is delighted to use chemistry to insure it does. Might as well give me herpes and kill me off-it was a thrilling ride, indeed. Or lock me up with Heather and make us enemies who then become besties.
    So I have to give credit to Alexis- who is nominated for another Emmy-and that, too, nothing to sneeze at-my mantel holds only dust, plants and a bitter harvest of squalid doo-dads.
    I have no issues with her diddling the town- I find the dearth of deceitful, cheating, frenzied matings-quite unsatisfying-as am I. Since my own well has gone dry and desiccated-I yearn to drink from the tainted waters I thirst for. It is quite reassuring, somehow, to know that these things adults do behind closed doors-or in planes, trains and automobiles-still go on-without me.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    My signature scent is Corpseflower #5.

    Shay replied

    P..S. Thank you, my dear Phyllis, for the gracious invitation to your roadtrip to Hollyweird, but as you have already suspected, I must decline…the whole tailgating and carpooling things are not my scene….(However, I do have a certain nostalgia for Pontiacs since my first two cars in high school were spanking new, loaded Grand Prix models…they were gorgeous and served me quite well!) But I wish you a safe and euphoric trip to the Emmys, “Milady!”…Oh, do say hello to Peter Parking Lot if you happen to run into him during your celebration in his natural milieu, but don’t do anything I wouldn’t do! (Okay, I won’t hold you to the last part, I know you’re just a girl who can’t say no!)

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Your mystique and low-profile-I’m quite sure you are akin to Valerie Plame-is that her name. No worries, I would never out you, don’t need any details as I don’t want anything amiss in our corresponding bliss. Neither of these messages were in my inbox and would have missed them entirely. You really must Twiitter. Make up a name-get a yahoo or gmail email- and you not only can tweet me- you can find the latest facts, pics, and many who share your exact political views. I think you would enjoy it. I know I would. Anyone who can teach themselves several foreign languages and come to another country and rise to the top- regardless of their party-or politics-I mean come on. I think she is smart and beautiful and is doing her very best and she is stunning.
    I have said no. Going on three years, now. I want more and want to feel better about myself and keep better company. No cocktails or anything else, either. Food is an issue, but I am addressing that and am making changes. Maybe I will, indeed, make it after all. Love you much, appreciate you, your kindness, humor, support and friendship. Have a great weekend.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I liked Patty and Cathy-also the hillbilly cousin who came to town and tried to oust Cathy. To think that Patty was being molested during the run of the show by her sick freak managers-The Rosses-and he demanded a producer credit on the show. Loved her lifelong friendship with show dad William Schallert-who was in just about every other tv show there was up until his death in 2016.
    Her romance with Desi Arnaz Jr-and Lucy pulling her full-on Hollywood weight to break that up. Now, I am still going to investigate the whole pantyhose nylon thing-still don’t understand the rationale or exactly when and why.
    Prairie dresses making a comeback- and I am down with our reboot of Little House. Our version will be more tailored towards adults-I don’t mind playing Harriet Oleson. I think I might enjoy the role. But my Harriet has a much studlier, hunky, younger, muscular- Nels Oleson. My Nels is not an attempted adulterer and wouldn’t think of cheating. He is obsessed with me and has had his way in canned goods, and fabrics. Also by the river, in the schoolhouse after hours, and-oh you get the idea. I am also open to playing the lonely spinster postmistress who is infatuated with Mr. Edwards. Again- over the river and through the woods we go. Deedle-dee-dee!!

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Back to the Prairie- I would appreciate if there is any way we can incorporate indoor plumbing- or at least have it available in our individual trailers. Not a fan of the outhouse. I am also open to Carolyn Ingalls- but my Carolyn is a dystopian hand-maid- and I have not seen the show nor really sure what dystopian is-but love the word. Charles is mean and controlling-and I am buck-toothed and passive-aggressive and one of our daughters is biracial.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    The next two weeks were a time I will never forget. First, Harriet insisted I stuff my face with anything and everything in the store or from the restaurant. She paid helpers to take care of Charles and the children and farm, and loaded a wagon of food and supplies to be delivered as well. I was pretty much at the Oleson’s day and night as we planned to the last detail and practiced our private magic show. Neither Nellie or I cared for the cramped confines of our compartments. Nels made the needed adjustments with a variety of tools.
    Nellie told Peter she was planning a big second honeymoon night of surprises for him and he was so happy to hear this he was on cloud 9.
    Finally, the big night was upon us.
    Harriet and Nels spent the evening at Nellie’s Inn, and Nellie and Peter had the Olsen’s comfortable home to themselves. Well, themselves and me stuffed in a box upstairs. After what seemed like an eternity, Nellie came into the bedroom to get into her compartment, and Peter waited downstairs until she would summon him.
    Peter was more than willing to participate in a little magic. Nellie directed the show, while I merely served as her surrogate. Once the show was over, Nellie sent Peter downstairs and I climbed out the window and down a tree and went home. We had to repeat the performance three more times before we had success. I was pregnant, and it was Peter’s.

    Shay replied

    Oh, Phyllis, the low-profile, private mystique suits me, plus I simply cannot make myself a slave to the siren call of Twitter…I don’t even have the proper time to visit here most days, although you are certainly keeping me on my toes in that respect! As for politics, I’m pretty tired of them at this point…I do keep apprised through a number of means each day and will comment on certain matters if properly piqued, but I also like to compartmentalize and just let them go in favor of the myriad of tantalizing subjects you have managed to introduce to each and every conversation here in “Fairmanville!” By the way, I commend you for your focus on “me time.” I just suggested to CeeCee that Alexis needs to do likewise….it would do her a world of wonder….As a person who emphasizes leading a healthy lifestyle, I applaud your more recent disciplined approach…it’s obviously fueling your creativity and sense of well-being…you go, girl! (Which is what I say with appreciative awe to Melania, as well!!!) In terms of your query about hosiery? I also do not understand the bare-legged trend…I always cover up…usually with some nice black Wolford tights in the winter and a sheerer black cantrece number for the warmer months….given my wardrobe is about 95% black, it works! So, I concur that Rose would be a delightful tea-sipping companion…shall we add CeeCee to the party mix and make it a foursome??? Lastly, I was devastated to discover that my ode to herbes de provence that I directed to you on the Patty McCormack thread failed to pass muster….did you per chance receive it in your inbox? I do so hope…it was a cracking good one and in addition to offering some substantive culinary chat, also posited a fine scenario for this substitute Monica that I thought was quite doable…Hmmm….there really wasn’t anything in there that should have offended, honestly!!!….At any rate, you have a wondrrful weekend, too, “Milady”…I do believe Spring has finally sprung…at least that’s what my sinus headache is presently signaling to me….time for a brief lie-down….probably not strapping on the dancing shoes tonight! Later!

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I don’t know what deep, dark well that last little outburst sprung from-oh ye of unresolved childhood issues. Oh my. It really has taken years. I had a real moment of truth in my forties-that it was actually ok-perhaps even healthy, to say what you actually liked or did not. Always prior hoping in silence and then being disappointed and silent.
    I spent many hours last night following the creative arts Emmys and it was not something I will do again-especially since one can read a recap of the entire event right here in less than a few minutes.
    I went to youtube and saw Vera-I am going to buy the DVD. I am sure there must be clips from VOTD as well. Susan Hayward-who stepped in after Judy Garland was given the role, panicked and hid in her dressing room-then ran off and stole some of the Travilla gowns designed for her. Judy, judy. Love the bizarre lip-synced number “My tree” Hayward does in the dolls-oh and the commercials Anne Wells- the prim and proper girl from New England- Wellesley grad, I believe-could be wrong on that- but she becomes the internationally famous Gillian Girl. Barbara Parkins.
    Your character- Miriam Polar. Love it.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Looks like the outburst was edited out. Thank goodness for an editor-I catch numerous errors in my rantings I wish I could correct. A delete feature would delight. Patty’s ex hubby, John Astin-I thought he had died years ago-but he is alive and well and still teaching drama in Baltimore.
    Back to the Prairie- The town will have more development-a full-service lounge-and jail, of course. I think I am really leaning towards Caroline-I don’t know how she spelled her name. Thinking my husband Charles goes blind-perhaps caused by my own indiscretions-and that way he has no room to question why none of his numerous offspring resemble him in the slightest-and his inherent frustrations lead to a more dystopian environment for me, and of course, the acting out with the numerous strangers who wander in and out to assist with milking the cows. Awaiting your casting decisions-are you Nellie, darling? Perhaps one of my daughters who doesn’t care for me or the scent of lemon verbena?

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I must insist you bring your considerable skills to the roll of Nellie. She runs the restaurant and rooms for rent above. She can be unhappily married, serve rancid treats with glee, and bitter and scheming. She has a hidden back hallway where she is able to hide and peep into the goings-on in her rooms. We are not at all on friendly terms, and you continue to devalue my supposed inferior brown eggs. I have no problem advising you are lucky to have any of my eggs and grand, violent catfights. Brutal hair-pulling and my horseteeth spring to life upon your delicate porcelain flesh. This goes on for sometime-yet we very slowly nuance into common ground, and mutual respect. One day, by the river, as you wash your delicates, you are pulled into the rapids by an alligator-this may be Minnesota, but we add snakes, alligators- plenty of wild creatures that frequently attack-plagues, pestilence-
    I selflessly dive in -perhaps with a sharp knife-better yet with my full-frontal chompers-and attack and kill the alligator and swim you to safety. The sun is out and perhaps the little ditty from deliverance-or the theme from Young and Restless-plays softly in the background-as we play softly in the foreground. Hugging and kissing and delighting. Eating the sweet candies you have pilfered from mummie’s store. We swim and frolic unclothed in the river. And then your husband arrives.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    If we are picked-up for a second season, it resumes at the river, with your husband pulling you out. Our frolicking and affection was provocative-yet totally innocent and you and your husband show your gratitude for my rescuing you-by taking me to the big city, where my teeth are filed down considerably and I am able to close my mouth. Could possibly be diagnosed with rabies and treated-and then off to the blcacksmith for a pair of new shoes. A lovely time, and we become friends and do our laundry by the river together and discuss our lives and the goings on in the town. Despite you and your family being rich and succesful, you are bored with the prairie and yearn for more-and take me to your secret place so that I, too, may get an eyeful.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I just realized that in the river scene at season one’s end- we were fully clothed. Also, things may be bizarre, but in this show, they make sense. The snakes and alligators and crocodiles were part of a travelling circus in a prior episode. Without giving the episode details away, all the animals escaped.
    Season two’s focus is on our growing friendship, and my peeping in on the dry goods salesman wearing petticoats and sashaying about his room. Next thing I know, a very sharp #2 pencil is poked right into my eye. Nellie beats the living daylights out of him, relieves him of his goods and cash-and boots him out onto the street in his pretty petticoats.
    Nellie gets the wagon, and we begin the long journey into the city. The doctor is able to save my eye-at least in an alcohol-filled glass jar. I select a black eye patch and it remains on-perhaps with the exceptions of sweeps periods and holidays.
    On the trip back I notice Nellie’s beard coming in. In her haste to save my eye, she neglected to pack a razor. She brings a wagon to a halt and pulls up her skirt. Now it all made sense. Certainly-at least-why Nellie was so cranky. And why her mother had always spoiled her so.
    Nellie was a hermaphrodite. If that, even. All she sported was a tiny little -picture one of the chewy, fruity movie theater candies-Dots-and that was Nelly. A tiny, dot. Neither chewy or fruity-but good enough to pee from. The poor dear. No wonder she was unhappy. And her marriage– oh, it had cetainly been consummated-via an elaborate smoke-and-mirrors , exhausting routine in several layers of bedclothes. Nellie’s husband was knock-knock-knocking on her backdoor. Ouch.
    And she desperatley wanted a child. As did he.
    Then it came to me. This would certainly not be a time when Nellie thought my eggs were inferior.

    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    I guess if I am to tell my story, it behooves me-to even put that word to paper–unbridles much pain and ambivalance.
    I wasn’t particularly forthcoming regarding my fascination with the abandoned circus wagons.
    You see, I spent many a year touring myself. Perhaps I could have taken some superficial pride in having been a name act and major draw. But just to mouth the name Horsephina-Horsephina, the amazing equine woman-I become unbridled.
    I don’t remember much about my parents. Except that at a very young age they responded with horror and dismay as my teeth and feet outpaced the growth of the rest of my body. My hair and nails as well. I was walking at one year’s old-and at a full gallup shortly thereafter.
    A good deal I can’t or don’t want to remember. He said he was my uncle, but I do remember cash changing hands-and a goat and two chickens. I had my own small caged wagon-basically a rolling jail.
    I was angry and hurt and resisted. I learned quickly to do as I was trained or feel the sharp crack of the whip as it tore my skin.
    It didn’t take much time before I had a monkey on my back.
    Oh-I wasn’t addicted to drugs. It was an actually monkey, who rode my like a pony as he played tiny cymbals in his hands. I learned to despise him as well-as he considered himself at a much higher level in the circus hierarchy.
    Once I became a star, I was mean and spiteful to him-often stealing his peanuts. I surely wasn’t treated like a star-unless you consider the occasional apple or orange I was tossed at me. I was expected to catch them with my teeth and it became popular in the act-along with Gomez the monkey on my back as I whinnied and nayed and galluped while he took my reins. He could be quite vicious himself-and lived to use his tiny horsewhip on my neck and back.
    When my star faded, Charles Ingalls stepped up to fetch me for a bargain. He considered it a shewd move. Not only a wife-someone to bear his children-but first and foremost, a reliable plow for his crops. I didn’t mind the plowing-my legs were long, strong and well-muscled, and I enjoyed the fresh air and exercise. What I didn’t enjoy were the other duties Charles forced me to perform.

    Shay replied

    On second thought, Phyllis, I’m going with the Barbara Parkins role…I think Anne Welles works best por moi! Plus, I always found the actress to be so lovely and dignified….watched her in many a film and tv series——a very enjoyable class act, indeed! Sooo…that’s settled…you must search for another Miriam! At any rate, other than in book form, I wasn’t a “Little House on the Prairie” aficionada….Probably because I never bought into the carefully-crafted image of Michael Landon as this honorable, fatherly figure….and I was right, as the truth later emerged! (Double dittos for Big Daddy Pudding Pops…so glad someone finally exposed his amiable, Jello-loving paternal panto for the total sham it was….) As for The Patty Duke Show, I only caught enough episodes to get the flavor of the program….missed out on the hick cousin…..but totally agree about William Schallert…seemed like such a dear, decent man and he had an enduring Hollywood career, God Bless Him! Yes, I recall reading about the whole Desi Jr. dating debacle…and how everyone was convinced that Patty’s son Sean was his progeny…there seemed to be quite a resemblance, too, although such proved not to be the case, yet despite that, they still have a great relationship…don’t you love a happy ending? (Isn’t John Astin all into Edgar Allan Poe these days? Explains his Baltimore connection…) At any rate, you are most entitled to celebrate anyone’s birthday of your choosing, “Milady!”…Both CeeCee and you don’t find the character of Alexis nearly as objectionable as do I, and I would certainly not take either of you to task for it, even though I don’t view her in the same favorable light. But we do concur that this is not a compelling woman….quite frankly, she bores me to death, and her insatiable sexual appetite probably has as much to do with the sheer monotony of her trainwreck life as simply an overactive libido. My main problem with her is the choice of repeatedly unsuitable boinking buddies….why must they all be mainly criminal, younger men with so little in common to this supposed legal genius? It appears to be an ongoing, ego-boosting agenda to push Alexis as the ultimate viable, desirable love interest who is like catnip to dangerous dudes, even though I cannot fathom why they would be attracted to her exhausting neuroses and highly difficult nature…for me, she only snags these guys because she’s easy, not glamorous, interesting or sophisticated like an Erica Kane type whose allure always held her suitors in thrall…..That is the sort of soap siren I want to watch, not a pathetic lovelorn floozy who cannot get her act together, and repeatedly makes the same mistakes over and over again with similarly unsavory males! I especially do not care to see her reunited with Julian…whose only real link to her was as an anonymous co-babymaker in the backseat of a car forty years ago! No real backstory of substance there upon which to base their ludicrous fairy tale…hence he is just fine being “in like Charlie” with Kim….and should she happen to be a raving lunatic beneath her breezy, calm exterior, then all the better! In all sincerity, I have often pondered who could make a successful match with Alexis, and frequently have come up empty….I do think that she would have been a perfect romantic dupe for Jim Harvey to conceal his actual dastardly proclivities, but unless he is alive, well and lurking behind the scenes of GH as you have maintained, then that ship has already sailed! I have also considered Scotty as a prospective cohort, since they are in the same line of work and share the same embarrassing, bumbling quality about them…plus, he’s age-appropriate, which would be a nice change of pace! Of course, he may also be shuffling off to Buffalo or other parts unknown, so there goes that possibility, too! As long as she’s not with Finn anymore, I’ll be satisfied…their dynamic was just too “off” for my taste…In terms of Anna, you made some very valid points, my dear Phyllis, but I place the blame on the writers for sinking her character in this moral-relativity purgatory…that is not the smart and clever Divine Devane who enraptured us decades ago…I’m just not having it! All one needs do is look back at her sensual ocean-romp with Robert and one cannot imagine her dallying with the likes of the insane Faison, spyjob or no spyjob, let alone carrying his devil’s spawn. No siree, Bob! Finally, on the subject of Nellie O.? Sorry, I can’t go for that. no can do!..Definitely not my cup of tea…prairie life is not for me, in addition to the fact that the actress who portrayed that right little miss had a truly harrowing experience with her real-life creep of a brother! Yuck, yuck, triple yuck!!!!! Until next time….

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    Phyllis Fontaine DeMarco replied

    Oh my. My mind is still in Minnesota, obviously. You have made many excellent and highly amusing points and provided insights unbeknownst to me. I knew you were Anne Wells from the get-go. Lee Grant tweeted out her best wishes to all at the Daytime Emmys and I checked to make sure it was not you.

    Shay replied

    @Phyllis……I actually like a light “lemon verbena” fragrance for the summer months. L’Occitane makes a lovely one, as does ”Le Couvent de Minimines!” (Same company…..) Just saying….

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  28. Violet Lemm says:

    @ Rose. I think Shay is referring to all the “flower girls” from Downtown Abby. I have so enjoyed Suits, which will end this week, final two hour show, culminating with the wedding. Of course Megan will be walking down the royal isle with her bonny Prince Harry next month. FYI, they are doing a spinoff with the woman that previously owned the practice, and I hope to see some familiar faces.

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    rose replied

    Thanks Violet. What a nice thing to say. Re: “Suits,” I did prefer it when Jessica/Gina Torres was running the firm. A little trivia. I don’t know if you watch “Lucifer” but the actress who plays Linda, the psychologist is also playing Sheila, Louis Litt’s love, in “Suits.” So lets get ready for the 2 hr. Meghan sendoff finale!

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    rebecca1 replied

    rose, I didn’t know you watched Lucifer! I love that show! The actress, Rachel Harrais, who plays Linda, the psychologist was also the friend/personal assistant on the Kirstie Alley show, Fat Actress about ten years ago. She was hilarious.

    rose replied

    Violet…OMGoodness, Can’t believe it but there was a power outage in my area just when Mike said “I Do.” I know I can read recaps, but will have to look for reruns to see the final goodbyes. Hope Jessica’s Chicago story continues in some form. But I rather she was back in New York. Plus, you don’t get into a car, in the middle of the night, based on the no-touch word of the enforcer to the Chicago mayo.r, :) )

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    Shay replied

    @Rose….Believe you me, there is a wide swath of the UK population praying that the same thing will occur on May 19th! Doesn’t necessarily have to be a power outage….any excuse will do, be it by natural, spontaneous happenstance or divinely-inspired deux ex machina……

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