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120 August 15th, 2013 Josh Griffith OUT as Headwriter for Y&R? Shelly Altman IN?

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Reports have been swirling all week long that a major change is coming at The Young and the Restless  and it has to do with a report originally from Highlight Hollywood thatJosh Griffith reportedly has resigned as head writer of the number one show and e-mailed his team that he is decided to exit over creative differences.  In addition, Griffith has reportedly posted comments on his Facebook page, including one that stated “a new adventure begins” that has since been deleted.

On the heels of that, CBS Soaps In Depth reveals that Shelly Altman (currently on the Y&R writing team) will be named Griffith’s successor and the scribe who steers the characters of Genoa City.   Altman previously has been at Another World, General Hospital and One Life to Live.   SID is also hearing that Jean Passanante, currently at GH and former As the World Turns head writer, who also wrote for One Life to Live at the end of its ABC run, could be he Altman’s new co-headwriter, or Tracy Thompson, a current staff writer at Y&R.

So if this is all becomes confirmation and not speculation, would you be glad that Josh Griffith is out as head writer of Y&R? What do you think about the choice of Shelly Altman, should she become the new  Y&R headwriter or co-head writer? Do you think Jean Passanante would be a good choice for the co-head writer position?  Who would you like to see writer Y&R? Weigh-in!

 

 

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  1. Krissy says:

    Horrible. Bring back Kay Alden and Jack Smith. They are the only ones who know Y&R. WTF are Steve Kent and Angelica McDaniel waiting for?

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    H Parson replied

    I agree, but even for Kay Alden & Jack Smith, the task of repairing the damage done by LML, MAB & JFP may be impossible.

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    lili replied

    Maybe not , but i believe they can fix most of characters if sony give them the time they need.

    Eliza replied

    I can’t imagine that will happen. JFP wants someone who will carry out HER vision not Bill Bells. Any writers that have a history with Y&R will want Y&R’s veteran actors/characters heavily involved in the stories. Maybe that was the “creative difference ” between Josh & Jill????

    I’m sure JFP’s new writers will be yes men (or yes women) that will make sure her favs are front & center in all the stories. I have a feeling JFP’s Y&R will be just like JFP’s GH.

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    clhosier replied

    Absolutely agree. Poor BB, rolling in his grave and embarrassed by JP’s reign of terror!

  2. greg says:

    Kay alden!!!!!!

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  3. Michael says:

    I was not at all surprised by this. But what bothers me the most is that Angelica McDaniel and Steve Kent have yet to move a finger to get rid of Jill Farren Phelps, who is really the source of all of the contempt for the direction that Y&R is headed in right now.

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    H Parson replied

    Angelica McDaniel & Steve Kent are with CBS & it’s Sony that’s calling the shots now (regarding creative control) .. not CBS.

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  4. jimh(leave it to beaver) says:

    GOOD…JFP needs to go next!!! But will the next writers or whoevers in charge get me back…???

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  5. Chris says:

    Josh leaving is marred by the possible replacements. Don’t know what Steve Kent at Sony is smoking or who pissed him off over the years but he’s every bit as destructive as the people he hires. Bill Bell was smart to train people throughout his career to take over when he needed to stop. He knew what he was doing but overzealous morons at the top had to pull their small dicks out and piss all over it. Jill Phelps needs to get her ass canned too.

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  6. Laurie McRae says:

    Personally, I’d like to know who the Y&R cast members would like to see as their new head writer! After all, they are the ones who have to bring it to life & make it believable!

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  7. Libby says:

    I am disturbed to see this shake-up at #YR. It has been obvious that all was not well BTS.

    I o not want to see a repeat of the upheaval at GH – happen with Bill Bell’s legacy of excellence. Still thankful MAB is gone – but I do not see Shelly Altman as an adequate replacement for Josh Griffith.

    THe show needs folks tied to #YR rich heritage. It has been a wonder to me that Bill Bell has a cadre of the best serial writers all assigned to his 30 min serial, #BB.

    I liked #GH under Phelps – Guza years for most part. However, #YR is adifferent kind of show with a different audience and heritage.

    I would like to see Brad Bell Co- EP both Bell Serials and bring over some of his most seasoned writers like Patrick Mulcahy, Kay Alden who understand what makes #YR special and unique to genre.

    Ideally, Bill Bell and Ed Scott would Co-EP at #YR. I do not want to see #YR fashioned into an older #GH model.

    We have few shows left. Each is unique in its own right. MAB was not good. But, JFP has not pulled it together – only torn it apart.

    As a serialized drama fan, I am tired of the drama and machinations behind the scenes at all the shows. Will the adults and professionals – please stand up.

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    Mary SF replied

    I think this is a case of too many cooks stirring the pot. In the early days of daytime dramas the creator of the soap was the producer and the head writer– there was a single consistent vision for a show. When a show is put together by committee and everyone has their own idea of what they think the audience wants it can become a zoo– we seen it before and are seeing it again. Let’s hope all the behind the scenes drama resolves itself in time– because a show that has a revolving door of talent, both in front and behind the camera, is not going to last in the long run.

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    Elizabeth replied

    We have definitely seen the zoo on General Hospital!

    Nancy replied

    Y&R is number 1 but is horrible beyond even being able to watch it. I knew the minute JFP arrived it would be even worse. “Bill Bell’s Legacy is gone forever.” Oh well the show should not be in 1st.

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    PatF replied

    As long as we continue to see our beloved YR characters, the show will stay number one.

    I’m fearful that Phelps will continue to force her vision on the show, and that the vets will disappear.

    lili replied

    Kay alden team.

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  8. Terri says:

    I’d prefer JFP to be out….She’s the one destroying the show.

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  9. Libby says:

    Respect Jean Passanante. Her place is with Carlivati at #GH now. #YR needs folks that know the Bill Bell legacy and model.

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  10. su0000 says:

    It is the theme of Y&R more than a writer..
    Y&R has no, none, chills, thrills, suspense etc,,
    It is always about 2 companies that are run by 2 families and ”mainly” revolves around marriage/personal problems.. BORING!

    Suspense, mystery, surprised etc is ‘not’ in Y&R..
    just personal problems.. blahhh

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    Mary SF replied

    No, No, No— if Y&R becomes another silly soap about spys and mad scientist and evil villains who try to take over the town– it will lose their real fan base– WOMEN who want to see relationship stories– love, romance, family dramas— if you don’t like those type of stories watch something else and stop trying to change what has work for over 40 years. MAB tried that gimmick to make the show about action plot stories that nearly ruin the show. It needs spicy up– yes, but relationship stories don’t have to be blah– daytime dramas have existed for a long time on those issues– just have to written the right way– they don’t have to be boring.

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    Elizabeth replied

    Totally agree with you. Unfortunately I would have the same opinion about GH. It used to have the spys and mad men, as well as the crime syndicates… BUT it also used to have intensity, depth, emotion, romance, angst, humor, the whole ball of wax.

    Now it is camp, waaay too many characters, cheese whiz,
    and new characters no one cares about. And, every time it starts to Improve (as in lately) they do something completely stupid like wreck a classic and beloved vet couple’s wedding (Felicia and Mac’s) by having it crashed by Richard SImmons!

    Nancy replied

    100% boring and barely watchable. Just plain stupid.

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  11. Mark in FLA says:

    If Mr Griffith is the reason that Y&R is unwatchable, I am glad he had the sense to “resign”.

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  12. Derrick says:

    Oh no…………………
    This is not good!

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  13. Lawrence says:

    Let me guess josh and Jill had a meeting. Jill wanted the show in one direction and josh wanted the show in another direction. Im not blaming Jill farren phelps or josh but hey both probably had. different visions for the show.

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  14. Dave says:

    What a disaster Jill Farren Phelps is! I started a petition to have her removed as the executive producer
    Please go and sign spread the word

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    JEM replied

    Dave….I cant really agree here. I am as aware of JFP‘s track record as anyone. However, here, I think she has stayed in the background and let the writers write. In this case, that has been a mistake. One thing her never are is boring, and this show, for the last year, has been akin to watching paint dry. That comes from the writing, not the production. We gotta give credit where drecit is due…JFP has not killed off a single veteran since her tenure began. And of all the initial firings when she took over, not one of those characters is missed. It was a bizarre and bloated cast with MAB at the helm. We just need a writer who will write some exciting storylines now!

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    Patrick replied

    there’s one character… who should have remained.

    Genevieve…. Genie Francis.

    especially, now… with the departed Jeanne Cooper, and exit of Michelle Stafford.

    Genevieve would have been so good, with her son… and Jack… and could have mixed in really well with Nikki, Victor, and Jill….

    Gosh! didn’t genie francis have wings…. flew… excelled in her profession in Genoa City.

    monica replied

    I agree with you dave. jill farren phelps needs to get fired. she is a soap killer. get rid of the bitch.

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    lili replied

    Bring back kay alden.

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  15. Tom says:

    Whoever is brought in to replace Griffith needs to dump the Rose storyline YESTERDAY. I was thrilled when they shuttered Restless Style–so, naturally, they replaced it with GC Buzz. Sigh. I want character-driven drama, not social networking-inspired bunk. We have enough of that in the real world already.

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    JEM replied

    They could have had SUCH an interesting storyline come out of Neil‘s alcoholism after Dru‘s death. He could have fathered a child who would now be six, instead, they brought in another mystery corpse. That makes 3 in the last year…Dr. Tim, then that Senator‘s hooker daughter, and now this. This show is HURTING for fresh ideas.

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  16. Angela says:

    And Jill Phelps begins her destruction of another show. Why does anyone trust this woman after what she almost did to GH. If they were really smart over at Y&R they would get rid if her sooner rather than later.

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  17. John says:

    Get rid of Phelps and hire Kay Alden as head writer and Ed Scott as EP !

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    Jill replied

    That is exactly what needs to happen. I said from the beginning that JFP shouldn’t have been hired. Did you see what she tried to do to GH?

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  18. Debra White says:

    Shouldn’t JFP be going with him? I want my original Y&R.

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  19. Robbyrob says:

    This news does so not surprise moi. As a rejuvenated fan of GH, under JFP’s replacements, I feel for the many fans of YR. I didn’t watch GH the whole decade Phelps was in charge. I loved Guza under Wendy Riche, the beloved EP of GH who was fired to have Phelps take the helm. Guza left to co-create Sunset Beach but when that was cancelled he was lured back to GH bug didn’t get along with Riche. Brian Frons, now in charge of ABC Daytime of course brought Guza back but didn’t like Riche. JFP loves things dark, gloomy, history be damned, and didn’t want to give any budgetary money to the vets at all. Hence, Guza/JFP killing off 10 iconic/still popular GH characters. The show barely recovered but it HAS. OK, everything is not perfect, but compared to what it was, GH is freakin Gone with the Wind everyday!

    Once I heard the news that JFP was now in charge of YR, I was very scared for the well being of the show. Every show Phelps has been in charge of has either been cancelled (GL, SB, OLTL, AW) or veryclose (GH). Her love of bringing on her friends in major and supporting roles and totally allowing the very essence of the show’s history be gutted are examples of the darkness this woman loves to emulate. It’s like she is embarrassed to helm a traditional soap. Most of you were hopeful things on YR would improve and would give her the benefit of the doubt. I don’t watch YR faithfully but I can tell from comments on Twitter and the soap sites, things aren’t looking good. Heck, even I know how big a star Michelle Stafford is and to lose her. I was equally mad that she basically stole Steve Burton from GH. GH certainly wasn’t going to turn itself sideways to accommodate Burtons travel schedule but best buddie Phelps certainly did!

    Yes, I’m bitter. Sony/CBS seem to be in her pocket and willing to gut another beloved show to see her twisted vision. I don’t understand the power she wields…I really don’t. I hope things don’t seem as rocky as what they seem to be now. Trust me, I want YR to thrive. I’m in your corner…and you need everyone to support each other to get her ousted.

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  20. k/kay says:

    Sharon Case I would start looking for work with Altman as Head Writer a big buddy of JFP you are going to the nut house forever. And you know what they are doing you a favor be like MS and get off the train!

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    Lew S replied

    YES!

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  21. Brian Dwoskin says:

    jean passente would be a good choice . shelley altman as well !! they both would do a good job

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    PatF replied

    OMG NO! They don’t know a damn thing about YR or the history of the show.

    No No No…

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  22. Barbara from Atlanta says:

    OMG. Please NO JEAN PASSANANTE!!!! That alleged writer was the head writer of As the World Turns in its inexcusably BAD final years. Based on what she gave us during that time, I doubt if she has the skill to write a grocery list!!!

    This news has done the impossible: I’m now thinking that Lynn Marie Latham and Maria Arena Bell weren’t so bad, after all.

    Please tell us that Passanante is getting nowhere near Y&R. (I don’t even want the woman delivering lunch to the crew!!!).

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    Rodd replied

    I agree.

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    Mary SF replied

    I agree– it was her Head Writer gig at Another World that destroyed it–it was starting to get back on track after they let her go- but it was too late and NBC pulled the plug. She might be a good dialogue writer for scenes, but I wouldn’t want her running these either.

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    I too must agree. There were other problems too, but the writing for the last few years of As the World Turns was dreadful in so many different ways that it was actually painful to watch many episodes.

    I was not a big LML fan while she was the headwriter, but in retrospect, it was less awful than what has come since.

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  23. Lew S says:

    I don’t think it was Josh. If anyone recalls his first interview before returning to Y&R, he said he wanted to return the characters and the stories back to it’s glory days. He indicated he wanted to rebuild the character of Sharon, but that didn’t happen. The poor woman is having talks with her dead daughter! This is JFP and the brass at CBS. I totally agree that Kay Alden needs to return as head writer and Ed Scott or BBradley Bell take over as the EP. That means the departure of every last recast and newbie under JFP!

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    k/kay replied

    Well Lew wish I could take credit for this statement but someone posted on Twitter that they were going to make the announcement that Steve Burton is now Headwriter. They of course were being funny. The reason I said what I said above was not because I dislike Sharon Case it is just she is a woman she has been on for 16 years and JFP likes to get rid of women. She has not been on twitter in two weeks and she is not asking people to watch the show and that we were going to like the outcome.

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    lili replied

    WE CAN DO IT IF WE ASK.

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  24. Mary SF says:

    Well I should be shock but I am not. It seems JFP track record is in tact. One can only hope Sony has enough sense to put two and two together and realize what the real issue is and correct the problem.

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    k/kay replied

    JFP literally slapped Lauralee Bell in the face she is talked about but never seen for gosh sakes her Dad created the show and she has never acted like a prima donna. It is shameful the woman is a snake .

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  25. SR says:

    I agree with the comments here. I too am asking that Jill zip helps be removed along with her friends. Bring Kay Alden& team to Y&R

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    lili replied

    Iam with you we need kay alden.

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  26. M. Gilbert says:

    I can’t stand what they have done to the Sharon character. They are making me dislike her. The whole Chelsea lie is also getting on my nerves.

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  27. George says:

    I hope he is resigning , they need a new head writer ASAP!! And they need to bring back the original music!!

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  28. Eileen Hargis says:

    I just want JFP to go!!!!!__

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    Donna replied

    You are not alone!

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  29. Scott (ATWT Fan) says:

    So sorry to see Y&R lose Josh, he was doing amazing with the show. NOT what I was expecting, especially since the cast loved working alongside him. I hope the new regime continues to excellence he brought back to the series.

    Also must note my disappointment in the “fans” of this show and their disgusting behavior. They whined and complained about Maria being at the helm and now are complaining at the two people who were still attempting to fix the years of messes made. You cannot consider yourself “fans” if all you do is bitch. How about some humble pie and a cork for your mouths?

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    Scott (ATWT Fan) replied

    And as for a good new headwriter, I’d love for Lorraine Broderick to jump on board. She’s a stellar writer. Would hate to see her depart DAYS, but she’s much more a headwriter than a side writer/script writer.

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    Patrick replied

    Fans’ of…. do amaze me… their recall…. their attention span…

    I honestly never kept track of who was headwriting what…

    if my two soaps are good… or bad… then that’s how it is.

    have to point out…. if Lorraine Broderick is writing for DAYS’ …. then so be it… she must remain… being in Salem is a pure treat.

  30. jp says:

    I hate to break this but it was just a matter of time before JFP would slowly begin to destroy your soap. As a long time OLTL fan, I watched how this woman completely ruined my show, did the same to GH, and led to the demise of another fav soap Another World. Josh G. is a good writer. He’s not the problem. She is.

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    Eileen Hargis replied

    Finally, another voice of reason. And its not bitching or whining to say out loud and publically that someone is detrimental to the survival of ur soap. This woman has left a bllodu trail behind her of wonderful soaps. She fires willynilly a brings in her posse,whether the r a good fit for the show or not! I refuse to sit on the sidelines and be quiet or rah rah a losing leader!

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    k/kay replied

    Yes sir everywhere she JFP has gone she has either been fired or forced into resigning. She should go first then see if an EP new that cared about the show could have helped with JG’s writing. JG was familiar with the show he had written for them before etc. I was hoping this headline would be JFP let go she oversees all of it and then when trouble looms she blames it on the writer. And what really makes me mad is it is us the fans that are screaming the actors you have no guts we will back you up you think this show will stay one the air if their was a mutiny all you vets start screaming!

  31. Rcraig says:

    JFP is the kiss of death to any show she has need associated with. How she remain in this business is beyond my comprehension. She totally F’d up GH when she was there now it’s her turn to F up YnR. Tat and feather the ho.

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  32. KELLY&MICHAEL FAN says:

    IS BOB GUZA NEXT TO COME

    GARIN WOLFE?

    IS STEVE BURTON HAPPY OVER THERE WITH THE GH GANG COMMING OVER THERE?

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  33. Jared says:

    I’m not sure what can fix Y&R. Bill Bell’s Y&R was so well constructed with huge events punctuating the lives of interesting, well developed characters. It was slow yet effective melodrama. Kay Alden and Jack Smith did an excellent job of continuing that look and style that Bill Bell had created and perfected. Under LML, MAB and JFP, the show has steadily fallen into disrepair. There seems to be no focus, direction or even true creativity. Characters we’ve long adored either aren’t seen or do not behave like themselves. Meanwhile, new faces we just don’t care about seem to take up much airtime.

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    lili replied

    Maybe we should sign a petition for Kay alden’s team.

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  34. JEM says:

    This is great news. No offense to Mr. Griffith, but since he took the helm almost a year ago, the only word to describe the show is BORING. The man seemed incapable of writing an actual story. New characters under his tenure are for the most part busts. A potential blockbuster from the past, the bombshell reveal of Summer‘s true paternity, has been mishandled and further used to destroy the character of Sharon. Days and weeks go by and literally NOTHING happens to advance the story. I hope the new writers, in tandem with EP JFP, cook up some attention getting stunt to mark their arrival. An explosion, a serial killer, a murder, a train wreck, a fire…ANYTHING to generate some interest and get rid of some dead weight.

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  35. JEM says:

    The show is overdue for a Crazy Patty rampage! It is never boring when she is on. I would credit that as being MAB‘s crowning glory! It was such a combination of awesome actress, killer backstory, good writing, chemistry among the vets, and so much more. Stacy Haiduk played that part in such a Little Girl Lost way that it was impossible to hate her. They could totally redeem Patty….give her a past of childhood abuse and a split personality…problem solved. We love us some Patty!

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  36. JEM says:

    I can COMPLETELY understand the JFP hostility. Under her watch, her shows had some of the most devastating blows in soap history (Maureen‘s death, Frankie‘s death, Drew‘s death, half the cast of GH‘s deaths). But on Y and R, she has not come in with a hatchet. I really think she is sitting back and just producing, and letting the writers write. Unfortunately, these writers have chosen to write NOTHING for the last year. There are no couples to root for, no coherent storylines, nothing to keep viewers tuning in. I honestly think JFP needs to take a MORE active role in this show, and get it out of its complacency. That might be an unpopular comment here, but come on….seriously, literally…get this show on the road!

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    Mary SF replied

    Actually I was surprised myself based on what her rep I thought stories would be way out there. Y&R has always been about the characters and it has always been one of slower paced shows– but this last year, since the new regime has taken over they went too far in the opposite direction– it was like they were too afraid of rocking the boat and stuck with really bland and safe stories. And when they finally had a great one going with Summer’s true father– they were too chicken to stick with it and had Sharon switch the results, so Nick wouldn’t be a bad guy after all, and Summer could be with Kyle some day, blah, blah, blah. The story would have been so much better if it had been true.
    So I agree the show need spicing up a bit, I really hope they don’t veer too far the other way, and we go back to baby switches and psychopaths murdering everyone in town. Soaps staples for years has been love, romance, with a hint of mystery and intrigue so I really don’t want them to get too far from that formula. It can be done–Bill Bell Sr did it for years– I think they should go back and look at those old shows and get a clue on how to write a good daytime drama.

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  37. Ali W. says:

    The only person who needs to, leave Y&R is Jill Phelps. She doesn’t know how, to write for soaps anymore. First when she started to, write for GH. It was good then it, started to go down the tubes. Over time. GET HER OFF ASAP. And let the original Y&R staff back. It’s not the same without them. I miss them. THEY NEED TO COME BACK, FAST. Before the same thing, happens to Y&R of happened to GH. They need to stay on, for a long time in the future. Not on the brink of cancellation. Like GH was. They were and still is the front runner, of all of the soaps. But over time they won’t be. WITH HER IN CHARGE. THAT’S WHY SHE NEEDS TO GO FAST. ASAP.

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  38. richard says:

    OMG somebody please go find Ed Scott and Kay Alden!!! I thinl Michelle Stafford saw this coming and decided to get out while the gettin was good!!!! Sharon Case needs to follow her as they have butchered Sharon!!!!!! JFP is horrible and a disgrace to daytime!!!!!!!!!!

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    lili replied

    I hope Kay alden’s team will come back. I recall Billy and Mack played by David Tom and AB. Kay knew how to pull out her story.

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  39. su0000 says:

    LOL geez such whiners..
    Jill Phelps is going nowhere..
    Y&R has 3-4 millions viewers and only a handful in here complaining..

    the ratings are high and mostly steady..
    Jill Phelps must be doing something right.

    True, I have yawned through the last year but then again Y&R has always been a sleeper, never much in the line of suspense, surprises, or thrills, just low key drama which is the Y&R trademark = blah ..
    So, all is well with Y&R lol ..

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    PatF replied

    The ratings have nothing to do with Phelps. It’s the writing and the history of the show.

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  40. Betty says:

    Doesn’t Phelps tell Griffin what to write? Do breakdowns or something? If so…..she .should be gone right along with him. No surprise Her butt was canned from GH.

    I wonder what Burton would do if Phelps gets the boot. She is his savior and mentor. She definitely has his back. He’ll lose that if she’s gone.

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  41. Matt P says:

    I know that this is probably the craziest idea ever but (in true soap opera form) what if JFP’s plan was to destroy Y&R after all? Say she signed on with all intentions to make Y&R number two in the ratings so that GH could be number one. Far fetched I know.

    Y&R is as everyone is saying: very boring! Let’s bring on Hollywood Heights actors as replacements, switch actors with GH, bring in male models and tell slow stories. There really hasn’t been a memorable story so far. The only time I felt connected and glued to the television was when Phylis and Sharon battled on the stair case. Everything else is yawn worthy.

    Go back to Y&R and William Bell’s roots! Find out what it was that made it number one in the first place. I think it would be great to bring back a new generation of The Brooks who have some sort of ties to Genoa City. Make Lily bad (since KC has voiced that she’s always wanted to play a bad girl). Bring back Sheila Carter in a way where she can stay in GC (maybe as a Sheila look a like who really is Sheila playing mind games with Lauren and Michael). Jabot vs Newman at the board room and not so much the bedroom.

    Give us something Y&R!

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    clhosier replied

    I would say if that was her goal then she deserves a raise as she is succeeding in watching this show unbearable. Who are half these boring ass people she has brought to the show anyway?

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  42. vicsze says:

    What JG & JFP have done to Sharon’s character is a disgrace. I expect that the backlash has been enormous & that things behind the scenes have been pretty tense. I just hope that whoever they install in that position actually does a good job. May be JFP is a major problem too?

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    Donna replied

    I agree. They need to repair Sharon’s character. Instead they keep making things worse. JFP is the problem. She needs to go.

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  43. rose says:

    I’m a new, casual Y&R viewer since ABC axed OLTL and AMC. I had been hearing about it for years, knew they were #1, but I was loyal to my ABC soaps, GH especially. And now I say casual viewer, because I can’t seem to get invested in it. But my sympathies to it’s loyal viewers over the years who are seeing it “lose it’s way.” Heaven knows, we had seen enough of this at GH until we got Ron, who at least is making an attempt to mix the new with the traditional.

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    Mary SF replied

    To be fair Y&R has always been a slower moving soap than say Days, or GH. I remember the running gag when I was in college (before VCRs, cable, or the web) we could miss a month or more of the show, come back, and they would still be on the same day on screen as it was when we left. It just seems to me over the last year story wise they have been playing it very safe–MAB’s stories were way out there, all over the place, so they went in the opposite direction and laid a big goose egg. I have been with this show a longtime, there is a very loyal and forgiving fan base. This shake up will either show it was the JFP or JG fault for the duller than usual stories of the last year.

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  44. PineValleyLover says:

    I think Shelly Altman would be ok. But im thinking maybe Marlene McPherson and Elizabeth Snyder from AMC would be good. They have done a good job with amc thus far and i know on days of our lives she went too over the top but amc is doing really great with down to earth storylines. So i volunteer them! Tell me what you think….

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    Jim replied

    Personally, I would love Y&R to bring back Kay Alden, Jack Smith, Sally Sussman Morina and Tom Casiello to the writing team, and have Ed Scott take over again as EP. While I do like Josh Griffith, his return has been a big fail, but I assume that’s mostly because Jill Farren Phelps hasn’t let him have full control over the stories he wanted to tell. THAT was the “irrevocable difference” between them. I’m not angry that Josh resigned, even though I do like him – in fact, this will probably be best for him; he doesnt have to put up with JFP anymore!

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    PatF replied

    It needs to be someone who knows the history of the show, and/or who cares about maintaining the integrity of the characters.

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  45. Lew S says:

    I don’t think people are whining. It is just love and support for the show. We know what Y&R was and can be once again under a great EP and writers. I think Josh Griffith could have accomplished this, if he didn’t have opposition. Hey, ratings are once again down for all of the network soaps, with a zillion of talk shows waiting in the wings. If there is a dip in the ratings, there is a reason = the fans aren’t happy. AMC, AW, GL, ATWT & OLTL were once high in the ratings; where are they now on network schedules?

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  46. clhosier says:

    Why is JP still there. Any star that wants to work for a great soap will continue to leave as long as soap destroyer JP is there. So many new characters (that aren’t working), and recasts, I don’t even recognize the show anymore.

    Amazing how many “creative differences” have happened since JP arrived. This soap is going downhill at lightening speed. Won’t be number one much longer!

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  47. Joe S says:

    Y&R needs to get back to it’s glory days. I would like to see David Shaughnessy, Jack Smith, Kay Alden, Tom Casiello, Paula Cwikly, Trent Jones, Joshua McCaffrey and may others tied to Y&R’s glory days come back. I am sad to see Josh Griffith go. I think JFP needs to go.

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    lili replied

    I Hope so , i really miss Kay alden”s team. She knows Bill Bell wish.

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    Jim replied

    I would love to see Kay Alden, Jack Smith, Sally Sussman Morina and Tom Casiello back as the writing team, and have Ed Scott or David Shaughnessy take over again as EP.

    While I do like Josh Griffith, his return has been a big fail, but I assume that’s mostly because Jill Farren Phelps hasn’t let him have full control over the stories he wanted to tell. THAT was the “irrevocable difference” between them.

    Truth be told, I’m not angry that Josh resigned, even though I do like him. This will probably end up being the best thing for him in the long run – he doesnt have to put up with JFP anymore!

  48. RICKIE says:

    Off with Jill Farren Phelps’ head! My lasting image of her is that pinched face of disdain when Bridget Dobson claimed the Emmy for “Santa Barbara” and addressed being locked out of the studio during her acceptance speech. Ever since then, I knew this woman was trouble — and I’ve been proven right time and time again.

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  49. George says:

    Please get, rid of JFP!

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  50. Donna says:

    The bigger question should be…why in the world is Jill Farren Phelps still there? Are they going to keep putting a Band-Aid on everything else and ignore the elephant in the room? JFP never should have been hired in the first place with her reputation as the soap killer. Tired of her friends that she keeps hiring too. Why did she get rid of Blake Hood, when he was perfect as Kyle? Oh yeah. She hired her good friend and fired Blake. She needs to go.

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  51. Eileen Hargis says:

    That was a joke, right? A MORE active role by Jill??? Any more activity on Jill’s part and Young and The Restless will be GONE! The only way to improve the show is for her to LEAVE!!!!

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  52. Eileen Hargis says:

    Now Im wondering IF there is anyone with big enough balls to fire her!!!!

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  53. harleee says:

    YIPPEEE!!!!!

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  54. Nikki says:

    FANTASTIC news about talentless Griffith hitting the bricks. Now how can we get soaps’ own black widow, Jill Farren Phelps, to follow suit?

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  55. Leah says:

    I won’t profess to know what JG did/dinot bring to Y&R. The same for all of the replacement names being thrown around. Bottom line, this genre has changed and what was 20, 30 years ago isn’t coming back.

    While Y&R has maintained 4.5m or better, its losing in its key demo (18-49) because some aren’t enthralled by women portrayed as needy and dumb! Where are the stronger women who will fight for themselves and their families?

    Soaps need to evolve while understanding that not ALL women are entertained by weak portrayals. Can a new head writer get that not all women are the same and write accordingly???

    Soaps future hinges on appealing to a larger demo – can they??

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  56. bc says:

    There needs to be more racial diversity among writers and exec producers of day soaps for there to be more racially diverse characters.

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  57. 4everdays says:

    Stop! DAYS needs to stay just as it is.

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    Patrick replied

    there are times….

    when I’d love to see more posts about DAYS’.

    at the same time… I don’t want any one… lambasting how bad it is either.

    so… I think… DAYS… can stay in the backgroud.. and/or forefront… with lil’ fanfare.

    it is a hoot how vested fans are with Soaps.

    just keep some room on the soap box for Salem’ites.

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  58. Ann says:

    Jean Passanante and Chris Gout-less destroyed ATWT so of course they keep getting more jobs. Soaps hire the same hacks over and over and wonder why fans grow tired of the same old crap.

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  59. Jim says:

    I’ve never been a huge GH fan, but I’ve started watching it when the dream-team of FV and RC took over. With the hirings of Maura West’s and William DeVry’s, my interest has only been fueled more, especially with everything else going on. However, despite me not actually watching the show, I’ve heard that during Phelps’ tenure, the show went through some very rough times, and Guza played up the mob way too much.

    I’ve been a loyal Y&R fan for years now, and the show hasn’t been good in a while. It’s been mediocre at best, and mostly everything MAB did was flimsy at best, but I think she truly cared about Y&R, even though her writing at times didn’t show it.

    JFP, on the other hand, only cares about transforming a show with such rich history into her latest on a long list of butcher jobs. Truth be told, the show began its downward fall during Lynn Marie Latham’s reign, and when MAB picked up the reigns, she sort of “saved it”. But then, her vision got blurred, and she became the next LML, with plot-driven crap, which produced 2 awful years for the show: 2011 and 2012

    When you mix the Diane Jenkins whodunit story of 2011 with Ricky’s death story and Phyllis’ 18-year old hit-and-run story of 2012, you get a fired EP and headwriter. MAB ruined the show by mid-2012, and with a bloated cast of needless characters and plot-driven stories that bend a dozen legacy characters to fit the scripts, it’s no wonder why she was fired.

    Jill and Josh were supposed to save the show, but in typical JFP fashion, she systematically destroyed the show I loved with her endless list of newbies and recasts. Josh is a good writer, and I feel that the only reason he didn’t shine the way we all expected is because of Jill Farren Phelps not letting him tell the stories he wanted to tell, the way he wanted them to be told.

    JFP is the one who needs to go, not Josh. He doesn’t deserve this kind of treatment after he worked so hard during the WGA strike several years back. If this sticks, I would love Kay Alden and Jack Smith to take over and bring Y&R back to what it was, but for that to happen, JFP needs to go, NOW!

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    lili replied

    I agree with you abot kay alden.

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  60. Joyce Peters says:

    I think that Jill F needs to go everyone I know does not like her work.

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  61. Jim says:

    Think about it. Jack’s pill abuse and detox story was absolutely amazing, and Peter Bergman delivered a stellar performance (which he should have been awarded a daytime emmy for), but other than that, nothing else over the past year has shined.

    The whole Congressmen Wheeler story was ridiculous, because we didn’t know ANY of the characters involved enough to care about them (Leslie, Tyler, Wheeler, Gus). Tyler, Wheeler and Gus were only introduced for the purpose of the storyline, so they meant nothing to us as viewers who really care about the veterans.

    Sure, Leslie has been on the show since 2010, but as nothing more than a recurring lawyer who only popped up when she was needed by someone in legal trouble. Not even a hint of a backstory was given when she was introduced, so why should we have cared about her when they decided to bring her to the forefront and slap Angell Conwell with a contract?

    Yes, it led to the shooting at the Newman Ranch, and Adam being “redeemed” in Victor’s eyes, but now Victor is mistrusting of Adam again (shocker!), and he’s been hit with false rape charges by Melanie Daniels… Who?! Why the hell should long time viewers care about yet another meaningless newbie? At least Erin Chambers is a decent actress (and she doesn’t have that stupid accent she had on GH as Siobhan McKenna, but she’s still a newbie!).

    And then, there’s this whole Rose/blogger mess of a storyline, which 22-year star Kristoff St. John doesn’t deserve because of it’s stupidity and complete ridiculousness. Are we actually supposed to believe that Neil hasn’t remembered until now of all times that he met someone right after Dru died named Rose, and by some mystical power, she’s the Rose that Gus knew too?! Is this Josh Griffith’s best attempt at intertwining stories together? If so, it’s failing, big time!

    On top of that, the same issue arises – why should we care?! We as viewers never knew Rose even existed, and the same goes for Hillary Curtis (add her to the newbie list as well, but this time it’s worse because Mishael Morgan is an awful actress).

    When you add everything up, there’s no wonder why Josh Griffith is out as head writer. All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided if not for all the newbies, the ridiculous storylines, and the proper use of veteran characters.

    The worst part is that all of this BS was at the cost of Genie Francis, Tristan Rogers, Stephen Nichols, Eileen Davidson, Marcy Rylan and most recently, Michelle Stafford. These six powerhouse actors and actresses make Angell Conwell, Redaric Williams, Mishael Morgan, Marco Dapper, Hartley Sawyer and Erin Chambers (as well as their characters) pale in comparison.

    If JFP stays on as EP, I will guarantee that Phyllis will be recast with someone from GH and OLTL’s pasts (i.e. Robin Christopher). Even though she’s a good actress, I can’t handle ANOTHER recast, and Michelle Stafford will always be the true Phyllis to me (and probably to Peter Bergman, too!)

    Remove JFP as EP, please! Save the show while you can!

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    Mary SF replied

    I am not supporting JFP, but to be fair Genie Francis, Tristan Rogers, and Stephen Nichols were all fairly new to Y&R canvas–newbies; yes the actors themselves were seasoned and had time to develop their acting skills, but they were new characters taking time away from Y&R characters so I wasn’t crying in my soup when they were let go.
    Eileen Davidson, was more a Sony decision they felt she would be a better fit over at Days. Michelle Stafford wanted to leave on her own– I am sure JFP might have played a role her choice, but in the end it was her choice they didn’t force her out.
    I agree one of JFP biggest blunders was taking Marcy Rylan off contract. They tried to correct the mistake by offering recurring status, but I don’t blame Marcy for looking for a better deal and GH gave it to her.
    As for recasts— it was MAB that SORAS Summer–not JFP. And I think she did the right thing by getting a more seasoned actress for the role than the one MAB had in there. I think the new Noah works better than the old– he actually looks like Josh Marrow, more believable as his son than the old guy his problem is they are giving him crappy stories.
    I always give recasts the benefit of doubt, because often the work better than the first person playing the role– ie MM as Adam was a recast, and I can’t imagine anyone better doing it now. Peter Bergman was a RECAST. Jess Walton a RECAST. So don’t be too hard on recasts– some times it is better than losing the character.
    But totally agree on the whole Lesley, Tyler and Neil story and this Rose thing– totally unbelievable. I think it was important to give Neil a story and to beef up the African American presence on the show—unfortunately it was the dumbest story ever written on the show– would have been better if they the blogger had been a pissed off Dru who thought Neil never did anything to find her after her fall and left her for dead–
    As for Dylan– I don’t mind him, but I think hooking him up with Chelsea was lame. This whole thing of her trying to pass off Adam’s kid as his is in this day and age laughable. Either Dylan is really dumb, or he is really just going along with it because he lost Avery and wanted the family he lost with her. And what happen to him being Sharon’s long lost brother? They should have gone there first, tied him strongly to another a legacy character instead a MAB’s creation of Chelsea.
    It is obvious you love this show and like many fans you don’t want to see it ruin by someone who doesn’t care about it like we do. But we need to be careful what we wish for, because we wanted MAB gone and look who we got instead? Although I can’t imagine someone worse than JFP as EP there could be.

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    Jim replied

    I agree with everything you said, especially the part about the blogger storyline – I was really hoping the blogger would be Dru and she would be brought back to the show, I’ve been waiting for Victoria Rowell to grace the screen again since 2007. They really dropped the ball having Hillary, a newbie who viewers really don’t care about, be the blogger.

    As for recasts, I fully agree with you’re view on them – I, too, am willing to give them a shot. I can’t imagine anyone else playing Adam the way Michael Muhney does, same with Jack and Jill. I actually don’t mind Melissa Ordway as Abby, but Hartley Sawyer as Kyle is a COMPLETELY different story – he does not fit the part AT ALL! Blake Hood was MUCH better, he actually looked like a 20something Jack!

    Hunter King and Robert Adamson are both from JFP’s other project Hollywood Heights, but I like their Y&R roles – they fit their parts and they have talent, I just wish Noah would get an actual storyline.

    As for beefing up the African American set, they did it completely wrong. You don’t just bring in a whole bunch of newbies (Leslie, Tyler, Hillary) and expect people to care about them when they have ties to no one else on the canvas, and the show was, in turn, forced to bring in MORE newbies to create a backstory for the Michaelson siblings (Rose, Gus, Wheeler). Meanwhile, Bryton McClure doesnt have a storyline, and he’s going on 10 years with Y&R.

    As far as Genie Francis, Tristan Rogers and Stephen Nichols are concerned, I know they aren’t exactly veteran characters, but at least their characters were intriguing. I never found myself bored out of my mind when I saw Genevieve or Colin on my screen, same with Tucker. I enjoyed all three of their characters MUCH more than I enjoy Leslie, Tyler, Kyle, Carmine, Hillary, Melanie, etc…

    You’re right, Eileen Davidson was needed more at DAYS, and she’s done a stellar job over there, but now she’s wrapped up her stint there, so hopefully Ashley can come back to GC and they can give her and Tracy a storyline together. As for Michelle Stafford, I already miss her a lot, but I’m hopeful that if Y&R does recast Phyllis, they will do so with a suitable actress (as I previously mentioned, I would like to see Robin Christopher in the role).

    But, honestly, the only way I will truly be happy is if the next recast at Y&R is with executive producers – JFP has to go before Y&R hits rock bottom, and by the way things are going now, it doesn’t look like it will take long for that to happen.

    k/kay replied

    The people they let go that was fine but now we make the Golden Boy SB front and center I hate when you bring a new character on and shove him down my throat. Instead of spray tans and body building maybe he might spend his money on an acting coach. Wait until he is thrown in the arena with Peter Bergman / PB will have him for lunch!

  62. Marie says:

    I would love to see Garin Wolf and Jean Passanante as co-headwriters. I think together they would be a powerful, experienced team.

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    Barbara replied

    I don’t anything about Wolf but I had my fill of Passanante from ATWT. The writing for that show while she was the head scribe was inexcusably bad (so poor that I wondered if Passanante and a few others were intentionally trying to have ATWT cancelled).

    The only writing that I think Passanante would be “powerful” to do: filling out the customer orders when she waits on them during her late night shift at the Waffle House. Based on what she gave us on ATWT, I think her writing skill stops at that level.

    I don’t understand the daytime serial industry. A lot of these people (include La Passanante) work on show after show that have declining ratings and are cancelled while they are employed there. The success of doing a job is good results. By no standard, would anyone think these people are getting good results. These people simply leave a trail of dwindling ratings and cancelled shows as they scurrry from one show to the next. Is there another industry in which someone with Passanante’s background would be hired to do the SAME thing again for another employer??

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    Michael (not Fairman) replied

    Even stranger, to me, than the fact that the same people who fail to bring ratings are hired again and again, is the fact that nobody seems to be able to watch what these people “create” and understand that they are disasters. How anyone could watch episodes from the last two or three years of ATWT and even think of letting Passanante near another head writing job is beyond me. It was damn near unwatchable (I can remember turning off the TV about 10 minutes into episodes because they were just so painful to watch). But I guess when you have these decisions in the hands of people who (1) don’t get soaps and (2) don’t love soaps, this is the kind of nonsense you get.

    Jim replied

    Did you watch GH when Garin Wolf was the head writer? What about ATWT when Jeannie P was there? She systematically destroyed ATWT, right up to it’s cancellation. Why she is being even considered as a possible co-head writer is lost on me.

    Y&R needs to bring back Kay Alden and Jack Smith. Together, they made Y&R’s ratings soar, and they carried out Bill Bell’s vision for the show he loved.

    Hell, I’ll even take Lorraine Broderick (who was brought on board at All My Children during it’s last year on ABC) as the new head writer, but please not Jeannie P or the Wolf.

    And once the head writer debacle is resolved, JFP needs to go next. Her butcher jobs on OLTL and GH should be an indicator of what’s to come on Y&R if she stays.

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    Marie replied

    Kay Alden already stated she will not come back. As for Jean P. , I was not aware of what she did on ATWT but hearng it now, its better she stay at GH.

    As for Garin Wolf. I watched every show he was in charge of, when he was head writer. I thought he did a great job January – March of 2008 with my fav. couple and the fake drug storyline. As for his tenure again after Guza was fired, August to February 2012, I believe he was handed a mess and he was trying to re-direct the path of the show, finish up storylines written by Guza, write new ones and trying to work with JPF, all without the benefit of time. He had 16 years of experience and was determined to bring us a more balanced show. TPTB just used him until the real team they had in mind were able to come on board, a hell of a lot more prepared, agreeable with each other and with a lot of experience.

  63. George says:

    Please fire JfP!!

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  64. su0000 says:

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    Jill Farren Phelps is doing a good job..
    Y&R has near 4 million viewers and holding steady..
    If all were as bad as bitter complainers as imagining, Y&R would have two million viewers..

    If you don’t like it don’t watch..
    But still everyone of the complainers watch daily lol go figure huh..

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    George replied

    Those numbers will quickly nose dive!! I don’t like it and I’m not watching until she is gone. Anyone who watched the show for a long period of time would notice a change in quality. People are free to complain because thankfully we live in a free country! :) thank you

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  65. JT says:

    JFP is a soap killer. She has already destroyed too much of Y&R.
    Now the continual promotion of the dullard Burton and inflcting him and Nikki (so it is rumored) on the death of Katherine is disgraceful beyond words.

    YOUNG AND RESTLESS IS NO MORE. NO THANKS TO SONY FOR BRINGING ON A PRODUCER WHO DESTROYS AND HAS NO LOVE FOR HISTORY NOR GOOD ACTORS.

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  66. Fox says:

    The one who needs to go is JFP. But I will say, that after cleaning up all of MAB’s messes, Griffith’s writing has turned very anemic. Oh, there’s a decent episode now and again, but it’s certainly not must-see TV and is more often than not snoozeworthy. He’d benefit with a co-headwriter who’s from the old Bell school. … Paging Sally Sussman…

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