News - Soap Buzz

9 July 22nd, 2011 Kim Zimmer chats about Ellen Wheeler, Oprah & Drinking in new Book!

And that headline is just for starters folks! In a new interview out today with TV Guide, Kim Zimmer gives us a further preview into her upcoming memoir which is going to be a non stop page turner!  I mean, Guiding Light, Peapack, Wheeler, Oprah, drinking, One Life to Live, Clones and god knows what else! But it sounds like a soap fans dream to hear the gospel from four-time Daytime Emmy winner, Kim Zimmer!

I’m Just Sayin’!: Three Deaths, Seven Husbands and a Clone! My Life as a Daytime Diva is set to hit the book shelves on August 2nd, but for now here is what Kim said to TV Guide about who she trashes in the book.  Well, one name came to mind to her.. ,Ellen Wheeler the final executive producer of Guiding Light!

Zimmer on stating in her book that Ellen Wheeler was crying all the time on set: “When they vetted the book, the only thing the lawyer called my publisher about was my reference to Ellen crying all the time on the set. Of everything I say, that’s what worried them! The lawyer wanted to make sure someone else could verify that fact. [Laughs] I said, “Oh, my God, at least 150 people can verify that Ellen Wheeler was a crier.” My publishers are very anxious for me to write another book, although I don’t know where I can go from here. A.C. read three chapters of this one and hated it! He wanted it to be more of a teaching book, something that helps actors learn about survival in this business, a book about self-preservation in a business that’s basically dying.”

Zimmer on if she felt the outlandish stories of time travel and the Reva clone story were a precursor to the demise of GL: “As much fun as it was, as an actor, to be a clone or to time travel, those storylines did not benefit the show at all. Back in the great years of GL we had no idea we were living in the golden age. It was so wonderful and comfortable and meaningful — the fans really cared about us and the stories that we told. Then soaps got ridiculous. They stopped being what they were created to be — human drama! That’s why people are leaving us and seeking out replacements. That’s why people get such a kick out of the Stupid Housewives of Wherever. Those shows are today’s soap operas!”

Kim makes a valid point here!  I mean television viewers are finding Real Housewives of (well, you can fill in which ever city you want) more intriguing then daytime soap opera storytelling  in 2011.  Enough said.

Tags: , , , , , ,

  1. Adam says:

    I didn’t watch GL for many years, then once AW went off, I began my journey watching GL till the end. Not sure why Zimmer has to be so ugly towards Wheeler, she was great! I was never a fan of Zimmer anyway…now reading this about her novel, I wouldn’t spend my $ reading trash she has to say. If you going to knock down the show that paid you money to live and eat then its obvious she was not that grateful to have a job in daytime. She was not all that there over actors on this show that were better and all. Zimmer get over yourself, you are drama, go join the Housewives if that’s the kind of dumb stuff you like to be involved in.

    Wheeler you read this..you were awesome on AW, a great actress and in all this book mess your the bigger person, she shed those tears your only human. I guess Zimmer does not cry!

    Reply

    Mark Schreier replied

    GL should have brought back Nola and Quint and Ed & MIke Bauer a long time ago .. they kept bringing in new families and characters that viewers were not invested in. Nola is one of daytime’s most memorable characters and Lisa Brown is one of the best daytime actresses of all time. Her fantasies were incredible…. great TV…… instead of going for great TV and human drama, real people, they went for gimmicks to try to get viewers that were totally unreal — cloning Reva, etc. P&G or whoever was in charge of those shows … Mary Ellis Bunnum or Barbara Bloom .. allowed too much trash on the shows, disrespecting the history and uniqueness that made them human and gave viewers reasons to watch…real life stories, not SCI FI. SCI FI fans watch those type of shows. YOunger viewers would have come and stayed if intriguing characters like Nola, Quint, and their kids and the Bauers were there. Where was Hope all the years when Allen Michael got married, etc.? She would NEVER ignore her son. The game of “revolving writers” ruined the show. I tried to get in as a writing intern during my college years but P& G had discontinued its writing development program. That was a HUGE mistake…. writers hopping from soap to soap is not the answer. YOu need people who CARE and have PASSION about the characters, enough rea-life experiences to draw on, to write ongoign storylines that impact people’s lives. Holly’s rape years ago impacted people’s lives, as did Nola’s fantasties. YOu couldn’t wait to see what would happen next. Even The Marion Crane storyline was interseting — I wrote a similar one in the campus soap I wrote in college 10 years earlier… a man living as a woman in a girls’ dorm… to get revenge on the girl who rejected his marriage proposal. I don’t know… it’s frustrating because the powers that be will not take regular people seriously, they always take writeres from other shows who recycle storylines and dessimate characters, losing viewers, ratings, and advertisers.

    Ellen Wheeler did the best she could hanging on a string….knowing cancellation was destined to happen. Viewers like us are WORTH talking to — these people who run the shows seem to only care about people’s opinions inside the industry — they need to solicit and really listen and/or hire people who CARE about the genre, characters, and have passion for the core families. It’s like living in a neighborhood…when people move in and out all the time (in front of and behind the camera), you dont’ feel like it’s home anymore. I would LOVE to talk with the powers that be about all of this, but no one will listen. I”ve emailed them … no replies…sent letters…no replies….. it’s just sad. I may live in VA, but I know what people need to do to get viewers……produced newscats for yeras…. worked in TV news, marketing, and sales…… i just wish SOMEONE would take me seriously!

    Reply

  2. Maureen says:

    I would be interested to know what the actual ratings are for the Real Housewife series of shows. It is easy to make generalizations about how viewers more interested in those reality shows than soaps…but I am not and I know quite a few people who don’t watch most of the reality shows on television.

    Yes, network soaps do not have the ratings they once did…but the same can be said of prime time shows…cable news channels…you name it. But soaps still pull in great and consistent ratings…that just about any network or cable prime time show would love to get. It is just that the suits in charge of the US soaps don’t want to be in the soap business any more. Period.

    It is also very easy to make Ellen Wheeler the scapegoat when it comes to Guiding Light. If only she did this and didn’t do that…then GL would still be on the air. Am I Ms. Wheeler’s biggest fan? Probably not…but please, it was obvious that P&G wanted out of the soap business and they were blowing smoke as far as trying to do anything to save GL or ATWT. Irna Phillips herself could not have saved P&G.

    Just look at what Agnes Nixon has been going through with her two soaps on ABC. And while Prospect Park has stepped up to move both soaps online…we all know that AMC and OLTL won’t be AMC and OLTL online if the majority of the cast and writers don’t make the move along with the shows. Can you imagine AMC without Erica Kane or OLTL without Victoria Lord? I certainly can’t.

    Reply

  3. kay killgore says:

    Years ago a friend of mine was at the Soap Opera Digest Awards, back when they had those Ms. Zimmer was there, my friend sit on her scarf because they were moving you around every commercial break so the place would look full she said Ms. Zimmer was nasty as all get out you would have thought someone would have sit on her head. You know why soaps are going down the tubes? Becasue it is an ensemble piece that makes it work not just one actor. It became the Reva show and that’s why I tuned out…

    Reply

  4. Lew says:

    Hey, Ms. Zimmer is just telling it like it is. The soaps have lost their way and it is reflected in the ratings. Soaps are supposed to be about family, friends and drama. That has been replaced by corporate wars and the mob on the waterfront. On some soaps, you don’t even have core families anymore. If the genre is to last, they have to go back to what worked. Days and GH seem to be on the right track.

    Reply

    Mark Schreier replied

    GL should have brought back Nola and Quint and Ed & MIke Bauer a long time ago .. they kept bringing in new families and characters that viewers were not invested in. Nola is one of daytime’s most memorable characters and Lisa Brown is one of the best daytime actresses of all time. Her fantasies were incredible…. great TV…… instead of going for great TV and human drama, real people, they went for gimmicks to try to get viewers that were totally unreal — cloning Reva, etc. P&G or whoever was in charge of those shows … Mary Ellis Bunnum or Barbara Bloom .. allowed too much trash on the shows, disrespecting the history and uniqueness that made them human and gave viewers reasons to watch…real life stories, not SCI FI. SCI FI fans watch those type of shows. YOunger viewers would have come and stayed if intriguing characters like Nola, Quint, and their kids and the Bauers were there. Where was Hope all the years when Allen Michael got married, etc.? She would NEVER ignore her son. The game of “revolving writers” ruined the show. I tried to get in as a writing intern during my college years but P& G had discontinued its writing development program. That was a HUGE mistake…. writers hopping from soap to soap is not the answer. YOu need people who CARE and have PASSION about the characters, enough rea-life experiences to draw on, to write ongoign storylines that impact people’s lives. Holly’s rape years ago impacted people’s lives, as did Nola’s fantasties. YOu couldn’t wait to see what would happen next. Even The Marion Crane storyline was interseting — I wrote a similar one in the campus soap I wrote in college 10 years earlier… a man living as a woman in a girls’ dorm… to get revenge on the girl who rejected his marriage proposal. I don’t know… it’s frustrating because the powers that be will not take regular people seriously, they always take writeres from other shows who recycle storylines and dessimate characters, losing viewers, ratings, and advertisers.

    Reply

  5. Jeff Moree says:

    Well i am definately going to Read this book.. I read an article or interview many years ago where Ellen wheeler said that acting saved her from bieng schizophrenic in real life. I can harldy wait til the book is on shelves.

    Reply

  6. Ceridwyn2 says:

    I’m a long time ABC soap fan (AMC, OLTL, GH) on and off for over 25 years. After hearing some interesting things happening over at GL in Dec 08, I decided to switch over to the Otalia storyline, and watched to the end of the show. I came in for Otalia but stayed for the entirety of the show.

    Yeah, looking back on some of the show clips, it was rough when they changed production models. Some thrived in the new environment, while others did not. It took a little while but it did improve. And from the standpoint of someone who has watched some of the British soaps, EW’s new production model for GL was not actually new ground – maybe so for US soaps and their viewers. I quite enjoyed the series from Dec 08 til the end (including spending HOURS going back and watching clips on YT to get caught up on stories).

    I’ve met KZ in person 3 times, but her seeming attitude to a job she apparently didn’t enjoy to the point of getting drunk most of the time in the last year to in her words ‘get through it’, really doesn’t inspire me to listen to what she’s written.

    Reply

  7. Bob Andelman says:

    Kim Zimmer fans will also enjoy the Mr. Media VIDEO interview in which she talks about working with her friend Alec Baldwin on “The Doctors,” replacing Kathleen Turner on “The Doctors” and playing her double onscreen in “Body Heat,” her 26 years on “The Guiding Light,” and her struggles with alcohol in the show’s final years. Check it out: http://www.mrmedia.com/?p=2172

    Reply

Leave a comment